The Syndicate

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:23 am i'm going to watch a horror movie and turn my brain off because i am just Not vibing with the game of mafia today, or with gamesolving, or with analysis, lol

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:23 am i'm going to watch a horror movie and turn my brain off because i am just Not vibing with the game of mafia today, or with gamesolving, or with analysis, lol

whats ur gth solve

More food for thought from JJJ without really knowing what to do with it right this moment:

Michelle under pressure = ferocious fighting, appeal to emotion
Ellie under pressure = ferocious fighting, caps lock
Made under pressure = being almost chopped as town is my favorite

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:24 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:23 am i'm going to watch a horror movie and turn my brain off because i am just Not vibing with the game of mafia today, or with gamesolving, or with analysis, lol

whats ur gth solve

2/3 in michelle/made/ellie + 1 in alison/nanook/jagged/koba

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:26 am

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:24 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:23 am i'm going to watch a horror movie and turn my brain off because i am just Not vibing with the game of mafia today, or with gamesolving, or with analysis, lol

whats ur gth solve

2/3 in michelle/made/ellie + 1 in alison/nanook/jagged/koba

actually i would replace koba with doom

so it's more like 2/3 in michelle/made/ellie + 1 in alison/nanook/jagged/doom

i thinkl neither of these wagons are scum

today was fun, surprised so many people feel the opposite rn

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:21 am Okay, Made.

*hugs Esooa and holds the pistol together with her just like Giorno Giovanna and Mista and points it at your head*

Bang

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:24 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:22 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:22 am honestly the fact made remembers tutuu claimed a PR is kinda scummy

had the same thought lol

Yeah I'd completely forgotten about that post

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:40 am today was fun, surprised so many people feel the opposite rn

yeah same. today's been pretty vibe-y ngl

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:40 am today was fun, surprised so many people feel the opposite rn

i love the energy & friendliness that everyone has had today for sure = )

Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:41 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:21 am Okay, Made.

*hugs Esooa and holds the pistol together with her just like Giorno Giovanna and Mista and points it at your head*

Bang

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:24 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:22 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:22 am honestly the fact made remembers tutuu claimed a PR is kinda scummy

had the same thought lol

Yeah I'd completely forgotten about that post

Lmao

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:40 am today was fun, surprised so many people feel the opposite rn

Yep the environment is super now. I'm just too tired to Mafia

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:20 am what pr do you think tutuu is claiming there

Hitman

im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

top 2-4 scumreads?

Ellie reminds me of Monstr in a game 5 years ago where he was being voted over someone who he hard pocketed. Monstr was upset that the other person wasn't being killed before him because that other player was being scummy and even defending Monstr.

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

Well this post has pretzeled my brain.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

top 2-4 scumreads?

Made, Mich. If i had to come up with a third i dont like Doom's sparse activity and her targeting made and mich over me without even considering the other two is sus, since i know im town. but tbh targeting me isn't really that scum indicative this game lol. koba could be considered for the same thing, but im not willing to scum read them either.

er sorry for writing that like i was talking to someone else, Koba. i couldn't remember who i was replying to and played it safe

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:30 am Ellie reminds me of Monstr in a game 5 years ago where he was being voted over someone who he hard pocketed. Monstr was upset that the other person wasn't being killed before him because that other player was being scummy and even defending Monstr.

im not pocketing made or mich

@EllieDelight do you get any feelings that this game is being lead astray by someone(s) unexpected?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:34 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

Well this post has pretzeled my brain.

mine too

what are you feeling right now?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:45 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:34 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

Well this post has pretzeled my brain.

mine too

what are you feeling right now?

I dunno. Part of me wants to vote Made, because his Ellie vote is transparently bad. Part of me is unsure about Ellie and thinks she looks at least 15% like a townie being railroaded. But I cannot develop confidence about either thing and, for the moment, feel like I am best advised to stop thinking so much.

I also had a moment of inspiration in my brain that said "Nanook is mafia", but I couldn't tell you why or if that moment is worth anything.

I am excited to see what Michelle does with this brand new poll.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:48 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:45 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:34 am

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

Well this post has pretzeled my brain.

mine too

what are you feeling right now?

I dunno. Part of me wants to vote Made, because his Ellie vote is transparently bad. Part of me is unsure about Ellie and thinks she looks at least 15% like a townie being railroaded. But I cannot develop confidence about either thing and, for the moment, feel like I am best advised to stop thinking so much.

I also had a moment of inspiration in my brain that said "Nanook is mafia", but I couldn't tell you why or if that moment is worth anything.

well, here's a question i was just pondering: do you think that ellie/made make sense as a team?

because if the answer is no, then that either means that michelle is mafia (because the consensus POE right now is ellie/made/michelle), or that the consensus POE is wrong and we are being owned by multiple people

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:56 am well, here's a question i was just pondering: do you think that ellie/made make sense as a team?

because if the answer is no, then that either means that michelle is mafia (because the consensus POE right now is ellie/made/michelle), or that the consensus POE is wrong and we are being owned by multiple people

I do think they fit together, and that separately Made and Michelle fit together. That's sort of the glue holding my world together. The reads Made and Ellie have made on one another have been hard to believe both ways, and Ellie was explicitly resistant earlier in Day 2 to the notion that she and Made are teammates. That connection seemed to motivate her more than just being suspected on her own, and that it became a caps lock parade against Made was... a lot. And for Made to disregard that and be one of the only people saying "Ellie is town" is an odd response. I don't feel like their dealings with one another have been natural, and that it could reflect their being paired.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:44 am @EllieDelight do you get any feelings that this game is being lead astray by someone(s) unexpected?

oh i definitely think there's a wolf no one is suspecting. like spf, esooa, you, nutella. i don't think any of you are scummy but its wild how so much daylight has been burnt by focusing on me/made/Michelle when everyone agrees that we're not w/w/w

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:01 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:56 am well, here's a question i was just pondering: do you think that ellie/made make sense as a team?

because if the answer is no, then that either means that michelle is mafia (because the consensus POE right now is ellie/made/michelle), or that the consensus POE is wrong and we are being owned by multiple people

I do think they fit together, and that separately Made and Michelle fit together. That's sort of the glue holding my world together. The reads Made and Ellie have made on one another have been hard to believe both ways, and Ellie was explicitly resistant earlier in Day 2 to the notion that she and Made are teammates. That connection seemed to motivate her more than just being suspected on her own, and that it became a caps lock parade against Made was... a lot. And for Made to disregard that and be one of the only people saying "Ellie is town" is an odd response. I don't feel like their dealings with one another have been natural, and that it could reflect their being paired.

what is the odd person out in both of these theories doing?

if it's me and ellie, what's michelle doing?
if its me and michelle what is ellie doing?

either way you frame it, you're very wrong on one of the three of us, which should give you pause as to the thinking generally imo.

question for everyone, if(when) i am baked, what are you going to do when i flip town? i don't mean that in a sarcastic way, I'm interested in y'all's gameplan

I’ve already said I think there’s a mafioso outside the three. I am considering that.

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:11 am question for everyone, if(when) i am baked, what are you going to do when i flip town? i don't mean that in a sarcastic way, I'm interested in y'all's gameplan

Vig myself

In all seriousness, I’d reassess from square one and see if I can make sense of the general ~aura of unease~ permeating the game.

what does a mafioso do? is that the one where they get strong each day they arent killed?

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:13 am what does a mafioso do? is that the one where they get strong each day they arent killed?

That’s just a generic term for “bad guy”. The goofballs say “wolf”

I want to see what Michelle has to say.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 am I’ve already said I think there’s a mafioso outside the three. I am considering that.

nah, that's not what i'm getting at. What i'm getting at is that the two theories are exclusive, and because they're exclusive they weaken each other by both existing-- as equally plausible, but mutally exclusive. I'm not saying that to say that we should deff abandon poe, but that maybe attacking this from a different angle will give us a better analysis, or at least more information

Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:16 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 am I’ve already said I think there’s a mafioso outside the three. I am considering that.

nah, that's not what i'm getting at. What i'm getting at is that the two theories are exclusive, and because they're exclusive they weaken each other by both existing-- as equally plausible, but mutally exclusive. I'm not saying that to say that we should deff abandon poe, but that maybe attacking this from a different angle will give us a better analysis, or at least more information

I’m not sure I follow, but sure I agree different angles should be explored. I really wish that didn’t demand so much of my mental energy.

I set the oven to preheat for a pizza two hours ago and forgot about it.

Thanks Mafia

Might do a trust/distrustfall in a bit

EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:28 am im off work now, if anyone wants to ask questions or whatnot im here to answer them.

my main takeaway from the pat 8 hours though is that i honestly cant accept i live in a world where i die before made. michelle? ok maybe, but not made who has literally been trying to white knight me all game, which if anything means we're both scum.

This is not a good post. I think Ellie just claimed scum

I don't do hypotheticals that I know are false

-_- grogu...

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:24 am I don't do hypotheticals that I know are false

this is the corniest ass shit lmao. you dont objectively know my role until I flip, so it's still a hypothetical unless youre scum

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 am

Made wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:16 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 am I’ve already said I think there’s a mafioso outside the three. I am considering that.

nah, that's not what i'm getting at. What i'm getting at is that the two theories are exclusive, and because they're exclusive they weaken each other by both existing-- as equally plausible, but mutally exclusive. I'm not saying that to say that we should deff abandon poe, but that maybe attacking this from a different angle will give us a better analysis, or at least more information

I’m not sure I follow, but sure I agree different angles should be explored. I really wish that didn’t demand so much of my mental energy.

that's real, this has been a heady game

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:50 am I am excited to see what Michelle does with this brand new poll.

Morning, i saw the poll and i wanted to read the thread to understand what exactly happened.

I have in mind that Ellie was displeased with my lynch, iirc asking why am I close to hammer (i will check her Iso for the quote because memory is tricky) but she is strongly advocating me to be in the Poe.
The same, Grogu except the fact he is funny and with cute avatar, has a frozen read on me that he cannot explain.
If, like you said, Nutella is town, SPF is town and Esooa is town, in other words if i am so idiot that i al 100% wrong, then the first people with unexplained and odd stanced are Ellie and Grogu.
Though, i thought Ellie is villager because of the fast growing wagon on her, but the wagon contains too many town reads so the logic it's not aplicabile.
Town LC was in hammer range, 2 counter wagons emerged, on Ellie and Made.
Which one of them had an early day 1 wagon who dissipated?
I have to check.

After breakfast, sorry i have to live too
Brb

Also i have 63 quotes i picked up, i will save them in a notebook to see how they feel later in the day.

Jay's Dilemma:

~ The vibe of this game has not been one of Analysis or Big Posts
~ If the game is a hard one, I don't think I am likely to solve it without Analysis and Big Posts
~ Analysis and Big Posts hurt my head and make me so very tired
~ If I don't do Analysis and Big Posts and let the game continue in its real-time emotion-driven discourse, I think we will lose to most decent mafia teams
~ Other people are very capable of good Analysis and Big Posts, but they might not want to and I can't blame them

watched the 2017 film "mother!". i hated almost every second of it. solid 8/10

Also @JaggedJimmyJay you didn't make the exercise i asked from you

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:34 am watched the 2017 film "mother!". i hated almost every second of it. solid 8/10

I watched that a few weeks ago at a friend's demand and now I have anxiety