The Syndicate

Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:56 pm Anyway, cya all, I hope to survive the purge

And if not, then was fun!

Keep Lumi Alive™ Stretch Goals!!!*:
Lumi survives to day 4: I add UI to my vote count script
Lumi survives to day 5: I add retrospective vote counts to my UI
Lumi survives to day 6: I consider making my vote count script into a browser extension so that people in future syndicate games can potentially even use it. (Note: extension release would have to wait until after the game due to rules about linking to a document that I'd be able to update live during the game, e.g a browser extension)
Lumi survives to day 7: I meet at least min post count by using vocaroos

Spoiler: show

* Assuming I have the time and the energy to do it, I'm not going to actually hard commit to anything

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:52 pm Like, you are not giving reads or helping any wagon rn so want to know what is the motivation

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:56 pm I sent in three entire sets an entire month ago git gud

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:57 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:52 pm Like, you are not giving reads or helping any wagon rn so want to know what is the motivation

Showing my presence in thread and making people stand in awe to it :^), on a more serious note if i dont get purged this end of day ill give some reads on d4 but cant be arsed trying to solve much rn when i think i will be gone when this day ends lmao

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:00 pm If your view of the game is "town shouldn't play until NPCs are gone" then all NPCs are wolfsiding by existing now, since we could ring up Mac and hit the abscond button at any time. Mafia's next nightkill is chosen after the purge so it's incredibly unlikely they're going to whiff real players anymore.

"We should keep trying to hit NPCs today because most real players are town" is tantamount to "we should vote sleep on d1 in a normal game because most players are town." I assume we all have enough basic mafia theory to know why that's a bad idea, yeah? The start of this day was when the clock ticked back over to "town is the beatdown and needs to start playing and voting aggressively."

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:01 pm Despite also thinking that Ran wagon is bad, Porscha vote ln Ran was towny , Neon NAI ... And Iaafr I didnt even read it but if they are not Npc they have mafia equity ig

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:58 pm There is no updated votecount in like two pages zzz, last one had drwilgy and ranmilia as wagons, i would never lynch ran today idc about drwilgy

Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:07 pm (Manny messaged me in mason chat to go post a vote count since he wasn't sure where the wagons were at, I've got you mason buddy @Manny )

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:07 pm

Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:07 pm (Manny messaged me in mason chat to go post a vote count since he wasn't sure where the wagons were at, I've got you mason buddy @Manny )

Ty Mason, would be nice if we both survive this eod but unlikely :sadcat:

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:07 pm its prolly wrong that i think wilgy only has one actual vote rn lmao.
Also if i could decide the lynch in general id prolly yeet Dz, didnt vibe much with the posts i've seen from him so far.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:09 pm DZ hardclaimed NPC, and I believe it given vote record

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:07 pm its prolly wrong that i think wilgy only has one actual vote rn lmao.
Also if i could decide the lynch in general id prolly yeet Dz, didnt vibe much with the posts i've seen from him so far.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:24 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:20 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:17 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:13 am

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:00 am

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:44 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:09 pm im p sure tutuu was a player read and i wasnt positive tutuu wasnt a player but yea wouldnt have been my top choice

risiinq was probably the town deleter...? idk why the maf would use their deleter on her

I don’t get the second part

Each faction has a Scout and a Deleter. The scout can target a player every night to find out if they are a real player. The deleter gets to remove one player from the game if they aren't a real player. They can target every night but as soon as they land one, they cannot use the role again.

oh lol nvm i didnt realise town had one too. what makes u think rising was town deleter though idgi? it says shes not a player so why cant it have been the town deleter who targeted her instead of the maf? was she towny in thread or something bcus i have no clue whats going on lol

oh i meant she was killed by the town deleter and it was like she was semi sussed by a few people and definitely not clear or leading or doing anything particularly to threaten wolves, so it's more likely that the town deleter would've targeted her as opposed to the mafia deleter, who should either be aiming at npcs who are threats or at player reads to confirm them

that aside, ender claimed the kill, repping that he's town deleter (could be some sort of fps but im kinda taking it at face value)

Ahhh that makes sense. @EnderWiggin since he clear if there’s any read u want me to sheep u on just ping me

Can you reread Scotty and gimme a take on him? @ilario

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:58 pm Wagons with more than 1 vote rn I think

Wilg (5) Silverkeith, nutella, ranmilia, Vivax , Ilario*
Ranmilia (3) Iaafr , Porscha , Neon
Vivax (3) DeZees, Michelle, Santygrass
Neon (2) Seanzie , Hally


Ilario is voting wilg incorrectly rn so it could be not counted lol

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:10 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:09 pm DZ hardclaimed NPC, and I believe it given vote record

Oh missed that then nvm me not vibeing with him makes more sense if he is just an npc lmao.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:31 am I've withheld a lot of my thoughts so far, but I genuinely dislike the sentiment that only wolves would be trying to hide in this kind of set up, especially before the culling of NPC's. I feel so strongly about this, that I'm extremely confident that anyone who is town would never push that agenda in good faith, and that someone like ran who has put this much effort and thought into the game should have known or at least suspected that's how many towns would play, regardless of whether they are even a player.
Ultimately, wolves would likely use their one player removing ability in such a way: Rank what individuals in the game they fear the most, for whatever reasons, and shoot. But early, they will likely just shoot at who they think are NPC's to avoid hitting a weaker player early and completely losing their ability to remove a huge threat later. It behooves the mafia scout to look into who they may sincerely believe will be a threat later, or someone who is faking a role claim, as someone already has, and see if it's truthful early in the game while there is little pressure. The mafia scout gets to share their findings with their teammates each and every night - the town scout does not have this luxury due to attempting to avoid being outed and removed from the game by the mafia. If the town is able to avoid being found by the mafia scout in the early stages of the game, this is very advantageous for them as it puts them on more even footing with the wolves. It is always in town's best interest to not out themselves early in this game.

Looking at low posters as the best people to vote is a waste of time when most of them will be culled so soon anyway. There is literally no point except to be performative in the hopes that you appear townie.

[VOTE: Ranmilia] aubergine

If you are wolf, be gone. If you are NPC, you are wolf siding. Be gone.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:31 pm

Lumi wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:29 pm
4) Pre-rand I'm pretty sure you were the single player in the playerlist whose motive profile for signing align most closely to my own and I never even remotely considered signing for this as a player, so yeah.

this also applies to me but i am a player nonetheless

DeeZees wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:38 pm No its sad @Manny cuz just means you dont vibe with me as a guy