The Syndicate

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Black Rock said nothing about Fuzz before he was lynched, and didn't appear to be present as the CFD developed (she left just before it started to rev up). Her earlier focus seemed to be more on Turnip Head and to a lesser degree Epignosis. I do like the way she responded to the results of the CFD/Fuzz flip though, at least in that her perspectives align well with my own other than the same sig read I've disagreed with nearly everyone else on. I don't get overwhelmingly good vibes in the absence of interactions with the dead mafioso, but I wouldn't call her a suspect either. Leaning slightly townward.

Prisoner 920077 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 920077 wrote:

Prisoner 413022 wrote:
I for one, look forward to hearing what Blondy has to say about this one.

He basically gave me a pat reply and then has kind of stayed out of the way, none of which have changed my mind. But, you've got to fight the battles people are willing to fight, and no one is biting, so I've moved on... I'm assuming we're heading back to the slammer soon, anyway, so it's not like it's my problem!

I gave you a truthful reply, not a dissertation. I'm not going to spend the limited time I have repeating what I've already said.

Do you even know what a dissertation is, Chronos?

Who is Chronos? Honest question. And why be snarky?

Prisoner 920077 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:
WIFOM, jimmy rustlin'. No way to crack "did he or didnndnt he" methinks.

You can ignore or you can vote to lynch him. His name being Golden.

Golden as Warden? I can't see it. Warden didn't post enough for it to be Golden. Golden would have been more active in taunting us, etc. if he were that role.

Prisoner 413022 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Speaking of indiglo, I want her to name a suspect or two who is/are not currently being widely suspected in the thread.

why with that limitation? What has she done that we have not seen that makes her behavior this phase so call out worthy?

Golden wrote:509 - what would your view of epi be on each side of how DDL flipped?

S~V~S wrote:I would like the second most votes to be someone that a lot of people seem to think is bad, too. Making shenanigans harder.

Epignosis wrote:You're also a criminal, so there.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:I have a better idea.

CFD Golden the Warden.

I'd love to lynch the Warden, but I really don't know who he/she is. I honestly don't know why Golden should be considered a top suspect for that role, or even a suspect at all.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Golden

Epignosis wrote:While I'm fine voting DDL, just be aware that Norton comes in, votes sig, and people scamper away from sig like they just found out he has TB (the disease, not Bubbles formerly known as TinyBubbles).

Go on and think about that for a minute.

Turnip Head wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You're also a criminal, so there.

But are you?

The Warden's here.

Golden wrote:Don't feed the troll.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Taunted with our identities.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Changed his testimony from "I was having fun to myself" to "I was bringing levity in the game".

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Freaked out when he realized prisoners have voting priviledges this phase. Melodrama'd his situation into "oh the prisoners will all lynch me", when he hardly garnered the suspicion of two such inmates.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Started throwing "there be undercover cops" among prisoners.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Started complaining about 14 prisoners = 14 votes being not fair, waah, waah. Has no issue, on the other hand, with the concept of there being undercover cops among prisoners, coming here to wreck the setup. The former is unbalance to him. The latter, no issues there. Huh.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Banters on Warden voting sig, as in sig being the Warden and voting for himself, only to then moves his own vote from sig.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:While I'm fine voting DDL, just be aware that Norton comes in, votes sig, and people scamper away from sig like they just found out he has TB (the disease, not Bubbles formerly known as TinyBubbles).

Go on and think about that for a minute.

I don't think sig lost more than one or two votes after that. Most of the "scampering" has been from people moving off of people other than sig, or from people placing their first votes of the day.

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:Don't feed the troll.

I can't help it sometimes. I got this big ol' bag or Purina Troll Chow.

Golden wrote:MP has over 100 posts in this thread...

S~V~S wrote:740359, I respectfully submit that you are mistaken about Golden. Does the Warden give you extra swag like real food or beer or cigarettes if you lead lynches on civvies?

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:While I'm fine voting DDL, just be aware that Norton comes in, votes sig, and people scamper away from sig like they just found out he has TB (the disease, not Bubbles formerly known as TinyBubbles).

Go on and think about that for a minute.

I don't think sig lost more than one or two votes after that. Most of the "scampering" has been from people moving off of people other than sig, or from people placing their first votes of the day.

I'm not talking just votes. I'm talking suspicion in general. This marks three days of "sig's bad" to "nah, not going to vote sig today." If sig is bad, I'm going to tear this thread apart looking for the people who kept their kid gloves on and why.

Time permitting.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Taunted with our identities.

I don't think he did that. Prisoners know the rules. If anyone breaks them, it's their fault not Golden's.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Changed his testimony from "I was having fun to myself" to "I was bringing levity in the game".

Is that a "change"? I think those are essentially the same thing.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Freaked out when he realized prisoners have voting priviledges this phase. Melodrama'd his situation into "oh the prisoners will all lynch me", when he hardly garnered the suspicion of two such inmates.

Golden typically responds with emotion when he starts receiving votes, especially when he doesn't understand the reasons for them.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Started throwing "there be undercover cops" among prisoners.

I dunno about this, please point the way.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Started complaining about 14 prisoners = 14 votes being not fair, waah, waah. Has no issue, on the other hand, with the concept of there being undercover cops among prisoners, coming here to wreck the setup. The former is unbalance to him. The latter, no issues there. Huh.

That strikes me as consistent. If he feels the voting power is unbalanced, then his theory about undercover cops would represent the counter to that unbalance in his mindset.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Banters on Warden voting sig, as in sig being the Warden and voting for himself, only to then moves his own vote from sig.

I don't think Golden is the sort to reveal his hand by way of banter.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'd forgotten that I did already ISO TH, so I'll put up a full rainbow.

Sloonei
Golden
thellama73
indiglo

sig
S~V~S
soneji
a2thezebra
Matt 2.0
chaindeath
Silverwolf

Black Rock
Draconus
Turnip Head
Scotty

Nerolunar
ika
Epignosis
Quin

Serge
Boomslang
Dragon D. Luffy

The tiers are ranked, but the names within them aren't.

Turnip Head wrote:Prisoner 740 is Golden. Discuss.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:740359, I respectfully submit that you are mistaken about Golden. Does the Warden give you extra swag like real food or beer or cigarettes if you lead lynches on civvies?

The Warden gave me nothing but crap and a lightless cell in which to rot for all eternity. There is nothing more I desire than to lynch him.

Why is Golden civ?

Also, I'm not leading anything at the moment, because nobody cares. Overdramatizing much?

Epignosis wrote:Has Norton posted today?

S~V~S wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:740359, I respectfully submit that you are mistaken about Golden. Does the Warden give you extra swag like real food or beer or cigarettes if you lead lynches on civvies?

The Warden gave me nothing but crap and a lightless cell in which to rot for all eternity. There is nothing more I desire than to lynch him.

Why is Golden civ?

Also, I'm not leading anything at the moment, because nobody cares. Overdramatizing much?

During and after the Fuzz lynch he was absolutely gleeful, REALLY gleeful. Solid civ Golden like he used to be in years past. I recognized that guy. I think the whole package backs him up, his thread, his votes, his consistency, along with my gut. I did not see the Warden or what he did to you, but lots of people can be meanies, not just Golden

I realize you aren't getting any traction from your Golden vote, but you are still trying, that was all I meant. It was meant as a punchline for my bribery joke

My jokes often fall flat

linki, lol @TH

Golden wrote:I thought it was a good joke

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I've had good vibes about llama purely from my gut, so I'll check my intuition against thread data:

thellama73 wrote:

RadicalFuzz wrote: Gleam makes a good point. The normal result of players tying for a lynch vote would be both of them dying, no?

Um... no. In what universe has that ever been true?

Assertively rejects a semi-question from Fuzz about typical tied lynch rules.

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thellama73 wrote:

RadicalFuzz wrote: Llama can you elaborate on your conclusion that Luffy's posts scream "cop?"

Sure.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:The whole Golden vs Matt argument feels like a waste of time.

Just my two cents.

Steering. This is a big pattern I see in Luffy. He is very interested in pumping people for opinion, GTH reads, explanations, and speculations on mechanics. He is constantly trying to get conversation going on a variety of topics... but the topics are of his choosing. When people discuss something he hasn't steered them towards, he tries to kill it.

Here's another example, where he quickly dismissed my suspicion of him.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Not sure if serious or just llama.

Here's another example, where disucssion of the lynch wasn't going where he wanted it to, with people complaining about his leading them by the noses.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Seriously guys, not gonna deny I had some influence in that lynch, but why are half the people on it saying they voted because "DDL said so"? A little more independent thinking, please? And I didn't even vote for Diiny myself, for fuck's sake. Worse is that the two guys are apparently players who always get lynched as civs for doing stupid crap, so I'm like "how do I even deal with them"?

What I am seeing is a very manipulative game. He seems like a great participant, because he always gets discussion going, but he controls the direction of the discussion and squashes it when it displeases him.

Fuzz asked llama to expand on his suspicion of DDL, and this was his response. This is obviously more about DDL than it is about Fuzz, but that Fuzz felt the need to prompt this might mean there's a connection to be drawn between he, llama, and/or DDL. As of right now I would lean towards DDL being the suspicious one from this, but this might be worth returning to later either way.

llama wasn't around during the CFD at the end of Day 2. His vote that day went to DDL (it was the 2nd final vote placed of the phase). This could perhaps be seen as slightly contradictory given his more recent dejection over pursuing a DDL lynch that he didn't feel would take hold with other players. I am not concerned though because this vote was placed so early, and he was indeed absent from the thread when the vote switching started to envelop discussion.

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thellama73 wrote:SVS is right. Golden is the civviest of civs, and I will go to bat for him on that.

This is surprising. I thought llama was opposed to people broadcasting town reads. I think this post is strategically fine and dandy, but I wouldn't have anticipated it coming from this guy. Perhaps a buddying scenario can be drawn out.

He spent most of Days 3 and 4 trying to mount support for a DDL lynch, but it seems that support didn't really materialize (or that other players were the focus instead). Actually that has continued into this day phase too.

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I think the content in the thread mostly supports my gut read. I have no beefs with llama.

Quin wrote:ABORT MISSION ABORT MISSION

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Can you be more specific, Epignosis?

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Has Norton posted today?

No he hasn't, I see.

Chronos, God of Timestamps, I summon thee!

Six posts, EST:

Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:47 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:53 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:43 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:17 am
Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:41 pm
Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:29 pm

You might not want to take any consideration of Norton's posts or vote, but I bet that's something to look at.

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Has Norton posted today?

No he hasn't, I see.

Chronos, God of Timestamps, I summon thee!

Six posts, EST:

Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:47 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:53 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:43 pm
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:17 am
Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:41 pm
Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:29 pm

You might not want to take any consideration of Norton's posts or vote, but I bet that's something to look at.

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Can you be more specific, Epignosis?

I mean looking at the posting times and narrowing down who the warden is.

There has been no activity for Friday, so I'm starting with that.