The Syndicate

The Amnesty Law can be ignored if everyone claims Cylon.

Thanks for the reminder.

Polo wrote:I'm not ever going to give people a civ pass for claiming, but be damn sure that the evil Cylons aren't okay with losing their first lynch immunity.
Most people have already used up their claim; do you want to let Cavil and his toaster pals get the upper hand? Frakking hell.

If I were an evildoer, I'd be perfectly okay playing ball. Why? Because it buys me credibility with people like you. You are operating under the assumption that the people who aren't claiming must be bad because...well, they didn't claim! Even if you say you are not walking that path, you are. And your enthusiasm here sounds forced to me.

Say, tell me more about this "first" lynch immunity.

Polo wrote:The Amnesty Law can be ignored if everyone claims Cylon.

What does that have to do with we all now need Epi dead to win?It isn't fair and it's wrong.

I don't want Cains win cons, I want the win cons I had back. I want to defeat Cavil, and I want to do it free from a dictator. Who probably has other things up her evil sleeve, tbh.

GTH Reads:

a2theZebra - Bad
bea - Bad
Black Rock - Good
Dex - Good
DrWilgy - Bad
Epignosis - Good
G-Man - Good
Glorfindel - Bad
JJJ - Good
juliets - Good
Long Con - Good
Matt - Good
Marmot - Good
ObscureAllure - Bad
Polo - Good
Ricochet - Good
S~V~S - Good
Scotty - Bad
sig - Bad
Silverwolf - Good - maybe Cain
SokothQultug - Bad
Spacedaisy -Good
Vompatti - Bad

My biggest thoughts:

Sig reeks. Not only did he refuse to claim cylon, but he also tried to push on Epig to force a claim out of him, which he himself refuses to do.

All those who did not claim cylon are highly suspect in my opinion. There is absolutely no benefit for a civ to hold onto your cylon amnesty. However, for the mafia, they could potentially abuse the amnesty law and martial law combo and win even if we scumhunt the shit out of them.

I think that if we happen to discover Cain, we should lynch them, but until then I do not think we should actively hunt for them.

Epignosis wrote:Thanks for the reminder.

Polo wrote:I'm not ever going to give people a civ pass for claiming, but be damn sure that the evil Cylons aren't okay with losing their first lynch immunity.
Most people have already used up their claim; do you want to let Cavil and his toaster pals get the upper hand? Frakking hell.

If I were an evildoer, I'd be perfectly okay playing ball. Why? Because it buys me credibility with people like you. You are operating under the assumption that the people who aren't claiming must be bad because...well, they didn't claim! Even if you say you are not walking that path, you are. And your enthusiasm here sounds forced to me.

Say, tell me more about this "first" lynch immunity.

Here:

Golden wrote:A new law has been passed.

Cylon Amnesty Act: Any person may publicly admit to being a cylon and, if the declaration is true, they will have immunity from the lynch for that day. Once a person has outed themselves as a cylon, they cannot do it a second time.

They'll be immune to being lynched on the day of the declaration. That's what I meant; on the next day onward they'll be lynchable.

S~V~S wrote:

Polo wrote:The Amnesty Law can be ignored if everyone claims Cylon.

What does that have to do with we all now need Epi dead to win?It isn't fair and it's wrong.

I don't want Cains win cons, I want the win cons I had back. I want to defeat Cavil, and I want to do it free from a dictator. Who probably has other things up her evil sleeve, tbh.

Lynch Cavil and then we lynch Cain. I said nothing about lynching Epi.

Let's lynch sig!

Long Con wrote:I swear to God, S~V~S - give me a little time, and I can prove it to you. I can't do it if you guys just lynch me tomorrow for theories and suppositions about the role you think I am can do.

Why not do it now?

sig wrote:I'll claim tomorrow I said, since it seems it will lift peoples concerns about me.

Why not do it now?

I think they have to claim it during a day phase.

Polo wrote:I think they have to claim it during a day phase.

Oh, right.

Hey Polo, do you like Pink Floyd? I like Pink Floyd. There's a song a lot of fans don't like but I do. Here, I'll share it with you:



I'll even include the lyrics:

Polo wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Thanks for the reminder.

Polo wrote:I'm not ever going to give people a civ pass for claiming, but be damn sure that the evil Cylons aren't okay with losing their first lynch immunity.
Most people have already used up their claim; do you want to let Cavil and his toaster pals get the upper hand? Frakking hell.

If I were an evildoer, I'd be perfectly okay playing ball. Why? Because it buys me credibility with people like you. You are operating under the assumption that the people who aren't claiming must be bad because...well, they didn't claim! Even if you say you are not walking that path, you are. And your enthusiasm here sounds forced to me.

Say, tell me more about this "first" lynch immunity.

Here:

Golden wrote:A new law has been passed.

Cylon Amnesty Act: Any person may publicly admit to being a cylon and, if the declaration is true, they will have immunity from the lynch for that day. Once a person has outed themselves as a cylon, they cannot do it a second time.

They'll be immune to being lynched on the day of the declaration. That's what I meant; on the next day onward they'll be lynchable.

S~V~S wrote:

Polo wrote:The Amnesty Law can be ignored if everyone claims Cylon.

What does that have to do with we all now need Epi dead to win?It isn't fair and it's wrong.

I don't want Cains win cons, I want the win cons I had back. I want to defeat Cavil, and I want to do it free from a dictator. Who probably has other things up her evil sleeve, tbh.

Lynch Cavil and then we lynch Cain. I said nothing about lynching Epi.

And do you think you know who Cavil is? You say this like it is a simple thing. Did someone forget to send me the "Who IS Cavil" memo?

Lets see what happens in the night; if the win cons changeback I will back right the fuck off (see SIlver! I said "fuck" ). If they don't then as far as I am concerend, a bird in the hand etc. becasue Cain has to go since who knows what she will do next under martial law.

Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

S~V~S, who do you think is a Cylon? We can try and lynch a Cylon first.

Polo, you are missing my point. I think Wilgy is probably a Cylon, I think Sig could be a cylon, I think several people might be cylons. I am super positive willing to stake my entire reputation on it that LC is Cain.

LOL, I am gonna go do laundry or dishes or anything except get out my blue face paint ha ha ha

you know it is more likely that the baddies claimed first or came up with the idea. I know if I was mafia I'd have jumped on this claim thing right away AND THEN pushed a lynch on anyone who hadn't claimed. Which is what Polo is trying to do, he also last phase kept asking people what they thought of certain players and pushing a lynch, for these reasons I think he's mafia.

I'm also glad nobody addressed any of my points on zebra what does everyone think of her providing almost no content and just one liners throughout the game.

I'd rather live on my knees then die on my feet!...........hmmm that sounds like I messed up the quote.


@SVS why do you think I'm a cylon? Since I'm not.

Dex wrote:

Long Con wrote:I swear to God, S~V~S - give me a little time, and I can prove it to you. I can't do it if you guys just lynch me tomorrow for theories and suppositions about the role you think I am can do.

Why not do it now?

sig wrote:I'll claim tomorrow I said, since it seems it will lift peoples concerns about me.

Why not do it now?

Yeah it only counts during the day so I'll do so tomorrow.

I'd be willing to bet money that you're Mafia, sig.

Polo wrote:Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

I'm well aware that English is not your first language. That I would feel comfortable enough accusing you on the basis of including an apparently superfluous adjective in your post should be a recognition of your mastery of the tongue.

And I do feel quite comfortable.

Question for Epi: Do you actually think that's a slip on Polo's part, or was that just a pressure move?

Polo wrote:I'd be willing to bet money that you're Mafia, sig.

Same here.

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

I'm well aware that English is not your first language. That I would feel comfortable enough accusing you on the basis of including an apparently superfluous adjective in your post should be a recognition of your mastery of the tongue.

And I do feel quite comfortable.

Being a native speaker of the language, I have been wrongly suspected by you for lacking a "mastery of the tongue" myself.

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

I'm well aware that English is not your first language. That I would feel comfortable enough accusing you on the basis of including an apparently superfluous adjective in your post should be a recognition of your mastery of the tongue.

And I do feel quite comfortable.

Being a native speaker of the language, I have been wrongly suspected by you for lacking a "mastery of the tongue" myself.

Nope. Not even close to the same thing.

I am accusing Polo of using the word "first" in his post, which implies awareness of subsequent lynch pardons, not for lacking a mastery of the tongue, which looks like this, by the way:

Ricochet wrote:

juliets wrote:

Ricochet wrote:People should simply address what has been pointed at in regards to him being a Cylon and decide if it sounds genuine / plausible / etc. or not. You can stick with the Cain vibes just as much, if you like, but address actual suggestive statements made in the game first. My only gripe, as I've said before, is for it not to turn out to be yet another messy "Boomslang gambit".

I'm sorry but I don't understand what the Boomslang gambit is. Could you give a short explanation?

Boomslang barked for two or more phases at Long Con being 100% bad, harder than a trainer dog pointing at cocaine under truck wheels, and most of us considered it to have been a cop check. Not only was that inaccurate and LC flipped civ, but Boomslang was in fact a mere curser or some smaller role (don't recall) and he had done all based on gut. The mislynch repercussion was kinda dreadful for the civ game.

Lol. Omg I was dying when Boom flipped as the question curser or whatever and Long Con's ensuing response "Fuck you Boomslang" in dead red. Hahahahaha!

I wouldn't mind mastering the tongue.

Are there any subsequent lynch pardons? Why did Nutella and LoRab die, then? If there are, in fact, anything such as a subsequent lynch pardon, then it'd have to be a Ress Ship deal, which I believe has nothign to do with the Colon Amnesty Act.

a2thezebra wrote:

Polo wrote:I'd be willing to bet money that you're Mafia, sig.

Same here.

Then your both going to loose. Zebra you can't read me worth damn anyway and the only time you're right about me is when you are the mafia member. Then you accuse me of being mafia and try to lynch me.

Again a case beyond sig is bad lynch him or he didn't say he was a cylon lynch him would be nice. But, I doubt it will happen.

Polo wrote:Are there any subsequent lynch pardons? Why did Nutella and LoRab die, then? If there are, in fact, anything such as a subsequent lynch pardon, then it'd have to be a Ress Ship deal, which I believe has nothign to do with the Colon Amnesty Act.

Glad my shit's safe.

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

I'm well aware that English is not your first language. That I would feel comfortable enough accusing you on the basis of including an apparently superfluous adjective in your post should be a recognition of your mastery of the tongue.

And I do feel quite comfortable.

Being a native speaker of the language, I have been wrongly suspected by you for lacking a "mastery of the tongue" myself.

Nope. Not even close to the same thing.

I am accusing Polo of using the word "first" in his post, which implies awareness of subsequent lynch pardons, not for lacking a mastery of the tongue, which looks like this, by the way:

And...how is that "not even close to the same thing" exactly? My point is that you have been known to voice suspicion - genuine or otherwise - of people based on wording and rhetoric. I'm not talking about what the implication leads to, I'm talking about where the implication comes from. I think you know that, too. Which reminds me...

Remember when I said to you that I personally think communication is more about understanding what others mean than meeting a proper standard? I think that's relevant now. I'm not sure if this is an act on your part, but if it's not then I don't think your slip accusation is going to get much support.

sig wrote:you know it is more likely that the baddies claimed first or came up with the idea. I know if I was mafia I'd have jumped on this claim thing right away AND THEN pushed a lynch on anyone who hadn't claimed. Which is what Polo is trying to do, he also last phase kept asking people what they thought of certain players and pushing a lynch, for these reasons I think he's mafia.

I'm also glad nobody addressed any of my points on zebra what does everyone think of her providing almost no content and just one liners throughout the game.

I'd rather live on my knees then die on my feet!...........hmmm that sounds like I messed up the quote.


@SVS why do you think I'm a cylon? Since I'm not.

Well, since we could not say "null" in the GTH, and I totally did not think you were good and I had disagreed with most of what I recalled you as having said, I said bad. But your reaction to realizing that pretty much everyone suspected you was to totally backpedal on everything you had said the entire game. That took you from null bad to probably bad for me.

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

I'm well aware that English is not your first language. That I would feel comfortable enough accusing you on the basis of including an apparently superfluous adjective in your post should be a recognition of your mastery of the tongue.

And I do feel quite comfortable.

Being a native speaker of the language, I have been wrongly suspected by you for lacking a "mastery of the tongue" myself.

Nope. Not even close to the same thing.

I am accusing Polo of using the word "first" in his post, which implies awareness of subsequent lynch pardons, not for lacking a mastery of the tongue, which looks like this, by the way:

And...how is that "not even close to the same thing" exactly? My point is that you have been known to voice suspicion - genuine or otherwise - of people based on wording and rhetoric. I'm not talking about what the implication leads to, I'm talking about where the implication comes from. I think you know that, too. Which reminds me...

Remember when I said to you that I personally think communication is more about understanding what others mean than meeting a proper standard? I think that's relevant now. I'm not sure if this is an act on your part, but if it's not then I don't think your slip accusation is going to get much support.

My goal here is not about fostering communication. It's about tearing people's posts apart to find the slightest hint of their true intentions.

And if I was acting, thanks for raising that possibility as soon as you could.

sig wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Polo wrote:I'd be willing to bet money that you're Mafia, sig.

Same here.

Then your both going to loose. Zebra you can't read me worth damn anyway and the only time you're right about me is when you are the mafia member. Then you accuse me of being mafia and try to lynch me.

Again a case beyond sig is bad lynch him or he didn't say he was a cylon lynch him would be nice. But, I doubt it will happen.

Just because I can't read you doesn't mean I'm not obligated to.

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Polo wrote:Frak you, Epi. English is not my first language and anyone with a minimal will to interpret things the right way know what I meant by that: that Cylons are immune to lynches on the day they claim they're Cylons.

I'm well aware that English is not your first language. That I would feel comfortable enough accusing you on the basis of including an apparently superfluous adjective in your post should be a recognition of your mastery of the tongue.

And I do feel quite comfortable.

Being a native speaker of the language, I have been wrongly suspected by you for lacking a "mastery of the tongue" myself.

Nope. Not even close to the same thing.

I am accusing Polo of using the word "first" in his post, which implies awareness of subsequent lynch pardons, not for lacking a mastery of the tongue, which looks like this, by the way:

And...how is that "not even close to the same thing" exactly? My point is that you have been known to voice suspicion - genuine or otherwise - of people based on wording and rhetoric. I'm not talking about what the implication leads to, I'm talking about where the implication comes from. I think you know that, too. Which reminds me...

Remember when I said to you that I personally think communication is more about understanding what others mean than meeting a proper standard? I think that's relevant now. I'm not sure if this is an act on your part, but if it's not then I don't think your slip accusation is going to get much support.

My goal here is not about fostering communication. It's about tearing people's posts apart to find the slightest hint of their true intentions.

And if I was acting, thanks for raising that possibility as soon as you could.

It's not a possibility that I raised, it's a possibility that's already a given when playing with you at any given time.

I'm not saying that your top priority should be communication, I'm just saying that you're not going to find any hint (slight or otherwise) of anyone's true intentions if deliberate miscommunication is your tool of finding it.

Does Polo know that?

Goldama actual, please sortie the frak out of sector C$, thx.

Only five to go. I got to say, if they hadn't NKed Indi, we would have accomplished this mission by now.

C4, you mean?

Um, that was meant to be sector C4...

C-Money

I know Polo posted a list, but just wanted to post my updated list... (they might be the same, probably are, derp)...

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
sig
Sokoth
Vompatti

9 players. Is that correct? Someone said 7 earlier, so I don't know if I'm missing something somewhere...

Of the names above, I am most curious of the red. Oh, and OA. She def not civ, right?

Daisy, Sokoth seems to be a friend of yours. What do you make of him seeing you claim Cylon but he won't do it himself? As a noob to Mafia, I'd assume he'd look to your lead in situations like this where the town is conflicted.

sig - I'm not down with anyone not claiming but I find you most curious because you have been legit asking others to claim but you won't do it yourself. Wtf?

Anyway, off to work. Peace

To be clear, the above list is the list of non-claimers as of now.

Holy shit, Matt, thanks for the correction. For some reason I forgot DrWilgy.

Zebra completely took any heat off Polo. Noted.

S~V~S wrote:

sig wrote:you know it is more likely that the baddies claimed first or came up with the idea. I know if I was mafia I'd have jumped on this claim thing right away AND THEN pushed a lynch on anyone who hadn't claimed. Which is what Polo is trying to do, he also last phase kept asking people what they thought of certain players and pushing a lynch, for these reasons I think he's mafia.

I'm also glad nobody addressed any of my points on zebra what does everyone think of her providing almost no content and just one liners throughout the game.

I'd rather live on my knees then die on my feet!...........hmmm that sounds like I messed up the quote.


@SVS why do you think I'm a cylon? Since I'm not.

Well, since we could not say "null" in the GTH, and I totally did not think you were good and I had disagreed with most of what I recalled you as having said, I said bad. But your reaction to realizing that pretty much everyone suspected you was to totally backpedal on everything you had said the entire game. That took you from null bad to probably bad for me.

I didn't backpedal on everything, I said I would claim if it stopped me from getting lynched and I saw sense in what Epi was saying. Of course that was the only two points ever put agaisnt me I guess. I still believe LC isn't helping the civs, I still think Zebra is mafia who isn't making many real posts. I have evolved on my views of Epi, but that was happening before people thought I was bad.

Epi, If you think I'm buddies with her, you're on the wrong track. I've stated previously that I think she's bad.

Matt wrote:I know Polo posted a list, but just wanted to post my updated list... (they might be the same, probably are, derp)...

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
sig
Sokoth
Vompatti

9 players. Is that correct? Someone said 7 earlier, so I don't know if I'm missing something somewhere...

Of the names above, I am most curious of the red. Oh, and OA. She def not civ, right?

Daisy, Sokoth seems to be a friend of yours. What do you make of him seeing you claim Cylon but he won't do it himself? As a noob to Mafia, I'd assume he'd look to your lead in situations like this where the town is conflicted.

sig - I'm not down with anyone not claiming but I find you most curious because you have been legit asking others to claim but you won't do it yourself. Wtf?

Anyway, off to work. Peace

I said we should've made Epi claim in case our win cons won't change i didn't want anyone else to claim.

sig wrote:

Matt wrote:I know Polo posted a list, but just wanted to post my updated list... (they might be the same, probably are, derp)...

a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
sig
Sokoth
Vompatti

9 players. Is that correct? Someone said 7 earlier, so I don't know if I'm missing something somewhere...

Of the names above, I am most curious of the red. Oh, and OA. She def not civ, right?

Daisy, Sokoth seems to be a friend of yours. What do you make of him seeing you claim Cylon but he won't do it himself? As a noob to Mafia, I'd assume he'd look to your lead in situations like this where the town is conflicted.

sig - I'm not down with anyone not claiming but I find you most curious because you have been legit asking others to claim but you won't do it yourself. Wtf?

Anyway, off to work. Peace

I said we should've made Epi claim in case our win cons won't change i didn't want anyone else to claim.

We should lynch you even if you're good just in case you turn bad.

Polo wrote:All trouble aside, though, I'd like to say that I've been having a lot of fun in this game. Mafia is cool as frak and I should have started playing earlier.

You come from PA right? You missed all the games Snow Dog used to play if you did.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Polo wrote:All trouble aside, though, I'd like to say that I've been having a lot of fun in this game. Mafia is cool as frak and I should have started playing earlier.

You come from PA right? You missed all the games Snow Dog used to play if you did.

Yup. The only one I played there was Avant Mafia 1, ages ago, and my next game was EST Mafia.