Inception [END]

[vanity.]

So far I think today should be a Long Con vs Ty4on

why would you lynch long con?

He fits the slanking profile

i guess... but their posts today seem villagery.

[vanity.]

why does my play not fit the slanking profile?

[Creature]

I'm somewha scared of diverting the lynch from actual scum

[Long Con]

Ok, I'm down with trying an Elephant vote. [VOTE: Elephant] aubergine A sexy tie as well.

why are you so willing to switch your vote? not that i'm complaining but it stands out to me.

Your latest burst of posts look townish, and I'm pretty comfortable on any of my redder-tinged players. The big fat stack of voters on you for the last day is boring and unproductive.

[Creature]

why does my play not fit the slanking profile?

Deliberaly avoiding the thread while there's a seven votes wagon on you doesn't seem very smart for scum to do

[Creature]

Pretty sure they carefully post enough to not be considered a lynch candidate

[Long Con]

Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity

However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets

He was right on Dragomir at least

So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con

Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me

Who? Epignosis?

[vanity.]

Ok, I'm down with trying an Elephant vote. [VOTE: Elephant] aubergine A sexy tie as well.

why are you so willing to switch your vote? not that i'm complaining but it stands out to me.

Your latest burst of posts look townish, and I'm pretty comfortable on any of my redder-tinged players. The big fat stack of voters on you for the last day is boring and unproductive.

so you'rre trying to pocket me. got it.

[nutella]

So far I think today should be a Long Con vs Ty4on

why would you lynch long con?

He fits the slanking profile

......what no

[Long Con]

What's slanking?

[Creature]

gth reads based on mac's exercise:

Benson: I've only known Benson for a day and a half, but if anything ever happened to him I would kill everyone in this game and then myself. Similar to TSP in having things to say about just about everything, but there's dedication to these posts TSP doesn't have. Town.

Dragomir: Early juliets callout set off alarm bells. Didn't really sound like a test even though that's how he played it. There's fluff, but his meaty posts are targeted in just about every direction which isn't a bad thing. Kinda don't think he'd go so overboard with that Evenstar stuff is he was bad (to stay out of the spotlight if anything) Town.

Lady L (thank you umineko references): The 4 person shtick is...confusing? I won't linger on it. I do hope there's not actually 4 people behind the role though. Somewhat insightful up until the nutella vote which isn't explained until later on. Though she is proactive in getting the lynch going (good), Lady has her heels in the ground when talking about it with other people which sucks a bit. Town.

Rej: The Michelle callout is a good look (questioning those who blindly accept townreads). It's a good point against her, though if I can make time I'd give her a read too before I make any judgments. Not a whole lot to work with otherwise. Town.

TSP: Fluff. If scum, probably buddying the elephant. He's got a lot of posts yet so many of them seem to be tiptoeing around the events of the thread without dedicating himself to anything. Scum.

Uh oh, Quin is not very sheepworthy this game

[Creature]

Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity

However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets

He was right on Dragomir at least

So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con

Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me

Who? Epignosis?

Yep

[vanity.]

What's slanking?

like uhhh... low-posting. not playing the game a whole lot. playing the game less than you could. that's the gist of it.

[Hyena]

[mention]vanity.[/mention]

rip benson. iirc he had a lot of suspicion on elephant and maybe juliets as well?

dfaraday was unfortunately a death that had to happen sooner rather than later.

benson was also pushing on tlib. he was also just one of the most active and villagery people in our group, though that raises the question why nutella didn't die?

thinking face emoji

long con is far and away the wolfiest person on boo. the people on dfaraday look wolfy though i'd perceive villagers are more likely to vote on dfaraday in these scenarios

so evaluating the vote from yesterday is tricky.

hyena why are you such a tough case to crack every time you're in the game...

like i want to say this is villa hyena but... idk what else to say. i don't think it's that simple tbh

It really feels like Vanity's reads and pushes have remained static throughout the past two days and that he's just looking for more reasons to pile on top of his list of reasons to scumread the people he's calling scum (particularly elephant and juliets, and to a lesser degree TLib).

When he does consider other people, such as me or nutella, he doesn't really give any reason to suspect us. It's more just shade. In nutella's case, he doesn't explain why he thought nutella would die over Benson. Wasn't vanity one of the people calling Benson top town in this group? As for me, it's like, he's saying I'm tough to crack, but if that's the case, I don't feel like he's done much to solidify a read on me.

Finally, his suspicion of Long Con feels more like him trying to "protect" nutella and I and him trying to sway us from possibly finding him as town. The only people alive today that were on Benson are me, nutella, vanity, and Long Con.

Thirdly, look at these wagons at EoD1 and EoD2:

EoD1

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005

EoD2
[5] boo - Long Con, Hyena, nutella, Benson, vanity
[5] DFar - TLib, Creature, juliets, boo, Elephant

All of the Boo voters at EoD2 were Dragomir voters at EoD1. Considering that both Boo and DFar were town, I wouldn't think that scum would favor one wagon over another. Thus, I'm starting to have a feeling that it's possible that there is scum on the Boo wagon, that someone in those 5 people did bus Dragomir, and that scum maybe just wanted to continue to vote with the group that they voted with before. I'm actually surprised that THAT many of us ended up voting together again.

(Also, just to note, TLib was the only Dragomir voter that voted DFar yesterday.)

Again, [me, nutella, vanity, and long con] all voted the same on both D1 and D2. It feels like Vanity is just trying to keep a core group together voting with him [me and nutella in this case] while casting suspicion on pretty much everyone else.

FITE ME

I'm the one leading your wagon!!!

[vanity.]

creature looking at people to sheep is almost always indicative of him being a villager

at the very least it's very clever

[Creature]

So far I think today should be a Long Con vs Ty4on

why would you lynch long con?

He fits the slanking profile

......what no

Not sure if slanking is the right term

I was thinking of something like "posting just enough to blend in and not get lynched, avoiding sticking out own neck and letting the low hanging fruits eat the lynch"

[Creature]

Should I call it low profile?

[Creature]

Oh well, it's Benson's turn to be sheeped

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Deadline in approximately 56 minutes.

[Creature]

Town + town read

Benson

iaafr
Evenstar


Town lean

Creature
Hyena
juliets
MacDougall


Null +

Epignosis
Master Radishes
nutella
Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo
vanity.


Null

DFaraday
Dom
Dragomir
Long Con
Michelle
novaselinenever
Spiny Creature
Quin
Rej


Null - / slight wolf suspicion

Elephant
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Texas Cloverleaf


wolfy

112
TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal


A lot of these are shit reads and determined on the spot.

Okay fucking deadline

[vanity.]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

[vanity.]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

sorry i was referring to wc1 regarding the mac thing, sorry for not specifying there.

[vanity.]

out of my early d1 village reads the only one i don't trust at all right now is evenstar. but i think i always townread evenstar d1 so take that for what you will.

[Creature]

Again Hyena and juliets above all, whatever, good luck with those reads

Way too many nulls, let's see if scumreads have something worth

Following Benson, we'd have to consider lynching Elephant, NANOOK and Trustworthy Liberal

Though, I don't think he has any cred like Epi and Mac

[Hyena]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?

[Creature]

Efforting is an annoying chore

[Creature]

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

test

[vanity.]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?

i don't know. is that an acceptable answer?

i think you're probably town. but would i bet money on it? no, that's the distinction i suppose.

[Hyena]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?

Also, how do you know you're clinging to villagers?

[Long Con]

Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity

However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets

He was right on Dragomir at least

So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con

Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me

Who? Epignosis?

Yep

But Epi townread me. How is his preferred lynch Long Con?

[Elephant]

@Elephant and @Long Con I need the low down on your current thoughts about juliets, asap.

Juliets is locked town for me. I'd rather not elaborate.

[juliets]

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

test

What do you mean by "test"?

[Hyena]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?

Also, how do you know you're clinging to villagers?

wait, nvm, I misread your post

[Creature]

Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity

However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets

He was right on Dragomir at least

So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con

Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me

Who? Epignosis?

Yep

But Epi townread me. How is his preferred lynch Long Con?

Oh oops, that's MacDougall

Sorry

[Ty4on]

Working a bit backwards... Epignosis' wall on vanity

----------------

vanity.

strongest v's after reading are nutella, epignosis, and evenstar.

sprityo, jack, elephant, iaafr, and creature are all probably v's. some of those don't feel great but that's how i felt while reading.

nanook and master radishes are the trailing edge of my town circle. dragomir is sorta towny too but i didn't really get that one quickly at all.

the townreads on michelle make absolutely no sense to me. they group of people townreading her might contain wolves purely because i think michelle hasn't really projected town or shown me massive differences to the limited amount of wolfgames i read from her.

juliets' posts just feel incredibly stiff to me. i don't know how to explain it, it just doesn't feel like any of the questions and observations she's making are real.

pawn's impact on the game feels super underwhelming at the moment.

This statement exists.

guess i can entertain your ideas mac, not doing color coding tho

dark green:
hyena
creature
nutella
jack
mr
iaafr

light green:
sprityo
mac
epig
lld
spiny
benson

yellow:
nanook
texas
evenstar
pawn
elephant
rej
long con
drago
dom

orange:
dfaraday
tonystarkprime
juliets
112
quin
michelle
tlib

red:
nova

vanity, what was the progression that led from “sorta towny” to yellow?

i could kill drago here i think

If forced to choose, I'd say this looks spontaneous and natural rather than forced.

Drago is Town here no?

i do not understand any of your posts

be villagery

Hi! Nice to meet you.

hi, nice to meet you too.

how's your day?

quick sell on tsp over drago pls

i dunno lol

i just want competitive wagons

vanity. did not engage nova on his assertion that Dragomir is good. Rather, vanity. pressed nova. That looks to be in the former's favor.

[VOTE: drago] aubergine

don't want epi lynched

Do you think someone else would've hopped on the Epi wagon? We would've needed two more people to take the lead over Drago.

idk

i just think epi is likely a v

This likewise is favorable.

++++

The evidence isn't overwhelmingly strong, but it is sufficiently encouraging. I do not plan on pursuing a vanity. lynch today. Not that I could if I wanted to.

[Elephant]

Elephant, my opinion on IAAFR has little bearing o my current read of nutella.

What did have a bearing on your read of nutella changing, then?

[Long Con]

creature looking at people to sheep is almost always indicative of him being a villager

How do you know this?

[Creature]

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

test

What do you mean by "test"?

Testing new wagons

[Hyena]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?

i don't know. is that an acceptable answer?

i think you're probably town. but would i bet money on it? no, that's the distinction i suppose.

Why were you surprised that nutella didn't die over Benson?

[vanity.]

i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.

i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that

also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.

Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?

Also, how do you know you're clinging to villagers?

do you think nutella is a villager? benson is a confirmed villager. from your perspective, you're a villager.

it's said in the sense of, if you believe nutella is a villager, then i am clinging onto villagers from your perspective.

[Creature]

There's also a pretty beautiful name right below the Quick Reply box you gotta see

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please

[nutella]

@Elephant and @Long Con I need the low down on your current thoughts about juliets, asap.

Juliets is locked town for me. I'd rather not elaborate.

Ohhhh dear

[Creature]

Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please

There are credible sources telling he's a villager

[Long Con]

Elephant, my opinion on IAAFR has little bearing o my current read of nutella.

What did have a bearing on your read of nutella changing, then?

Oh I see I was green in your list. What does have bearing on it then?

Your Drago stuff is best for my mind, and my gut doesn't suspect you either. The level of trust from others affects me as well, and you are widely town read.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@Elephant and @Long Con I need the low down on your current thoughts about juliets, asap.

Juliets is locked town for me. I'd rather not elaborate.

Ohhhh dear

Do you have someone you’d rather kill than vanity?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please

There are credible sources telling he's a villager

Such as

[juliets]

[VOTE: Trustworthy Liberal] aubergine

test

What do you mean by "test"?

Testing new wagons

Oh! TY

[Creature]

@Elephant and @Long Con I need the low down on your current thoughts about juliets, asap.

Juliets is locked town for me. I'd rather not elaborate.

Ohhhh dear

I'm gonna assume it's that thing we can't say

If I'm right about it, I think Elephant and juliets are out for today

[Creature]

Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please

There are credible sources telling he's a villager

Such as

I've been quoting a bunch of readslist for what?