Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:57 pm
Your latest burst of posts look townish, and I'm pretty comfortable on any of my redder-tinged players. The big fat stack of voters on you for the last day is boring and unproductive.
Who? Epignosis?Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:53 pm Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity
However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets
He was right on Dragomir at least
So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con
Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me
Uh oh, Quin is not very sheepworthy this gameQuin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:07 pm gth reads based on mac's exercise:
Benson: I've only known Benson for a day and a half, but if anything ever happened to him I would kill everyone in this game and then myself. Similar to TSP in having things to say about just about everything, but there's dedication to these posts TSP doesn't have. Town.
Dragomir: Early juliets callout set off alarm bells. Didn't really sound like a test even though that's how he played it. There's fluff, but his meaty posts are targeted in just about every direction which isn't a bad thing. Kinda don't think he'd go so overboard with that Evenstar stuff is he was bad (to stay out of the spotlight if anything) Town.
Lady L (thank you umineko references): The 4 person shtick is...confusing? I won't linger on it. I do hope there's not actually 4 people behind the role though. Somewhat insightful up until the nutella vote which isn't explained until later on. Though she is proactive in getting the lynch going (good), Lady has her heels in the ground when talking about it with other people which sucks a bit. Town.
Rej: The Michelle callout is a good look (questioning those who blindly accept townreads). It's a good point against her, though if I can make time I'd give her a read too before I make any judgments. Not a whole lot to work with otherwise. Town.
TSP: Fluff. If scum, probably buddying the elephant. He's got a lot of posts yet so many of them seem to be tiptoeing around the events of the thread without dedicating himself to anything. Scum.
YepLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:59 pmWho? Epignosis?Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:53 pm Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity
However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets
He was right on Dragomir at least
So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con
Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me
Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:51 pmIt really feels like Vanity's reads and pushes have remained static throughout the past two days and that he's just looking for more reasons to pile on top of his list of reasons to scumread the people he's calling scum (particularly elephant and juliets, and to a lesser degree TLib).
When he does consider other people, such as me or nutella, he doesn't really give any reason to suspect us. It's more just shade. In nutella's case, he doesn't explain why he thought nutella would die over Benson. Wasn't vanity one of the people calling Benson top town in this group? As for me, it's like, he's saying I'm tough to crack, but if that's the case, I don't feel like he's done much to solidify a read on me.
Finally, his suspicion of Long Con feels more like him trying to "protect" nutella and I and him trying to sway us from possibly finding him as town. The only people alive today that were on Benson are me, nutella, vanity, and Long Con.
FITE MEHyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:54 pmAgain, [me, nutella, vanity, and long con] all voted the same on both D1 and D2. It feels like Vanity is just trying to keep a core group together voting with him [me and nutella in this case] while casting suspicion on pretty much everyone else.Hyena wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:12 pm Thirdly, look at these wagons at EoD1 and EoD2:
EoD1
[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
EoD2
[5] boo - Long Con, Hyena, nutella, Benson, vanity
[5] DFar - TLib, Creature, juliets, boo, Elephant
All of the Boo voters at EoD2 were Dragomir voters at EoD1. Considering that both Boo and DFar were town, I wouldn't think that scum would favor one wagon over another. Thus, I'm starting to have a feeling that it's possible that there is scum on the Boo wagon, that someone in those 5 people did bus Dragomir, and that scum maybe just wanted to continue to vote with the group that they voted with before. I'm actually surprised that THAT many of us ended up voting together again.
(Also, just to note, TLib was the only Dragomir voter that voted DFar yesterday.)
Not sure if slanking is the right term
Okay fucking deadlineBenson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:09 pm Town + town read
Benson
iaafr
Evenstar
Town lean
Creature
Hyena
juliets
MacDougall
Null +
Epignosis
Master Radishes
nutella
Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005
sprityo
vanity.
Null
DFaraday
Dom
Dragomir
Long Con
Michelle
novaselinenever
Spiny Creature
Quin
Rej
Null - / slight wolf suspicion
Elephant
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Texas Cloverleaf
wolfy
112
TonyStarkPrime
Trustworthy Liberal
A lot of these are shit reads and determined on the spot.
sorry i was referring to wc1 regarding the mac thing, sorry for not specifying there.vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
Am I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
i don't know. is that an acceptable answer?Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:06 pmAm I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
Also, how do you know you're clinging to villagers?Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:06 pmAm I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
But Epi townread me. How is his preferred lynch Long Con?Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:00 pmYepLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:59 pmWho? Epignosis?Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:53 pm Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity
However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets
He was right on Dragomir at least
So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con
Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me
wait, nvm, I misread your postHyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:09 pmAlso, how do you know you're clinging to villagers?Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:06 pmAm I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
Oh oops, that's MacDougallLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:10 pmBut Epi townread me. How is his preferred lynch Long Con?Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:00 pmYepLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:59 pmWho? Epignosis?Creature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:53 pm Following his list, the lynches that would be a no-go for today would be NANOOK, nutella and vanity
However, I'd have to fucking ignore Hyena and juliets
He was right on Dragomir at least
So his preferred lynches would be Ty4on and Long Con
Obviously I am ignoring his garbage read on me
This statement exists.vanity. wrote:strongest v's after reading are nutella, epignosis, and evenstar.
sprityo, jack, elephant, iaafr, and creature are all probably v's. some of those don't feel great but that's how i felt while reading.
nanook and master radishes are the trailing edge of my town circle. dragomir is sorta towny too but i didn't really get that one quickly at all.
the townreads on michelle make absolutely no sense to me. they group of people townreading her might contain wolves purely because i think michelle hasn't really projected town or shown me massive differences to the limited amount of wolfgames i read from her.
juliets' posts just feel incredibly stiff to me. i don't know how to explain it, it just doesn't feel like any of the questions and observations she's making are real.
pawn's impact on the game feels super underwhelming at the moment.
vanity, what was the progression that led from “sorta towny” to yellow?vanity. wrote:guess i can entertain your ideas mac, not doing color coding tho
dark green:
hyena
creature
nutella
jack
mr
iaafr
light green:
sprityo
mac
epig
lld
spiny
benson
yellow:
nanook
texas
evenstar
pawn
elephant
rej
long con
drago
dom
orange:
dfaraday
tonystarkprime
juliets
112
quin
michelle
tlib
red:
nova
If forced to choose, I'd say this looks spontaneous and natural rather than forced.i could kill drago here i think
vanity. did not engage nova on his assertion that Dragomir is good. Rather, vanity. pressed nova. That looks to be in the former's favor.vanity. wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:28 pmi dunno loliaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:28 pmquick sell on tsp over drago pls
i just want competitive wagons
This likewise is favorable.
Why were you surprised that nutella didn't die over Benson?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:08 pmi don't know. is that an acceptable answer?Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:06 pmAm I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
i think you're probably town. but would i bet money on it? no, that's the distinction i suppose.
do you think nutella is a villager? benson is a confirmed villager. from your perspective, you're a villager.Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:09 pmAlso, how do you know you're clinging to villagers?Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:06 pmAm I town that's pushing on you, or am I scum pushing on you?vanity. wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:04 pm i was just about to say my reads being static means nothing for my alignment but then i remembered i literally spent an entire chunk of the game reevaluating on my mac read. but the environment here is much different.
i'm taking a very lazy approach to the game and that's why it's probably coming off like that
also i understand that it may seem like i'm trying to cling myself to a bunch of villagers to look towny, i even like doing that as a wolf! but i really strongly believed that my village core was strong and for once i'm trying to actually trust in my early village reads because they tend to be good.
There are credible sources telling he's a villagerNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:12 pm Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please
Do you have someone you’d rather kill than vanity?
Such asCreature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:13 pmThere are credible sources telling he's a villagerNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:12 pm Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please
I'm gonna assume it's that thing we can't say
I've been quoting a bunch of readslist for what?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:14 pmSuch asCreature wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:13 pmThere are credible sources telling he's a villagerNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:12 pm Someone wanna cliff notes why we’re not murdering the shit out of vanity please