The Syndicate

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:52 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:49 pm Here for a few seconds
I don't want me in F3 either

who's the wolf

If I knew I probably wouldn't blank every time my vote asks me "why am I a wolf"

my legacy is its never bronana

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:52 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:49 pm Here for a few seconds
I don't want me in F3 either

who's the wolf

If I knew I probably wouldn't blank every time my vote asks me "why am I a wolf"

give me the first 2 guesses off the top of ur head

my legacy is im gay

my legacy is that if you have specific questions you want me to address tomorrow you should get them in by the halfway point if they're fast to answer and at the beginning of the day if they're slow to answer

[VOTE: c4e5d4g5] aubergine

glgl

think im staying here
#sunbaegoat
glgl

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:55 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:52 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:49 pm Here for a few seconds
I don't want me in F3 either

who's the wolf

If I knew I probably wouldn't blank every time my vote asks me "why am I a wolf"

give me the first 2 guesses off the top of ur head

Dizzy if I somehow payed enough attention to have good reads
Arete if the people who actually did know what they're doing

i still dont really think that c4 is a hit

shrug

Glgl

also I didn't say this earlier because it was pedantic and kind of irrelevant but there's like a massive difference between being 98 percent confident of something and 100 percent confident of something????

no I don't think this is at all AI for bronana

no there isn't lol

not in a mafia game when you were not claiming mech info

if you read someone as literally =rand that's 75-80 percent confidence in most setups!!!

Arete has been eliminated. They were the student who begrudgingly raised their hand to answer a question in class each time everyone else was too scared or bored to try.

1. A Mafia Championship participant has received a mafia role card for their qualifier. Their first post in mafia chat reads as follows:

“Okay, here’s how we’re going to win this game, folks. We’re going to float around in a state of relative normality, and then on exactly the sixteen-hundred tenth post one of you will accidentally make a mafia chat post in the game thread. This post will out another member of our team and clear a town player by extension. At end game we will win by eliminating the town player we cleared by vote.”

Would construal level theory anticipate something like this? Explain.

2. The broad notion of “victim blaming” can be associated with which bias(es) according to attribution theory?

3. If a person’s first and most immediate response to criticism is to be receptive and apologetic, would attribution theory anticipate this to be the most likely scenario? Explain.

4. Why might such high-level research questions of human cognition as those explored by CLT and attribution theory be difficult to assess from the standpoint of science?

Night 6 has ended.

bronana has been killed. He was the student that stays in the classroom 20 minutes overtime just to shoot the cognitive scientific shit.


Day 7 is underway. You have 48 hours to place your votes. There is no hammer.

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

please let me die

please free me from making any decisions

sad zack noises

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

Huh. I started reading the game from scratch, cause now I'm rah and hmph.

So far I'm clearing SPF.
You may ask about it later.

Hoping to clear more.

i feel like c4 or spf more likely just kill me there

and that zack dying points more to you visor

or wifom/framing you etc

fuck this i didn't want to have to think about this anymore

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:04 pm Huh. I started reading the game from scratch, cause now I'm rah and hmph.

So far I'm clearing SPF.
You may ask about it later.

Hoping to clear more.

asking about it

i actually thought i died a decent chunk of the time cause ppl were back to villa reading me and spf kept expressing susp on bronana

i mean that would be great because then c4/visor poe of 2 wins game

but
a

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:06 pm i actually thought i died a decent chunk of the time cause ppl were back to villa reading me and spf kept expressing susp on bronana

theres no way the kill is ever outside me/zack last night lol

is this villagery of you to think or is that what you want me to think

my god this game is such a slog

why cant we have hammers dad

it feels like we won on d3 and have had to go through the motions for weeks

very cool and edgy vote

visor actually the main thing i'm still kinda hung up on even though we talked about it a bit yesterday

is how drastically differently dya handled you than how they handled me

like they were kicking and screaming at all of my pressure on them and barely batted an eye at yours

and that's the kind of thing that strikes me as w/w, like how i treated mac's pressure on me on d1 in the perc crossover game that just ended

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:12 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:11 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:09 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:08 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

This interaction is real bad.

Why use the perspective of "does Dya have history of taking criticism to thei wolf game personally"? Why not their game in general or even their town game? Usually outbursts like Dya's are read more towny, so why go to the question of "

I have pretty major issues with this.

That said, I want to thread a little bit carefully. Cause my philosophy is - town say scummy shit all the time. Wolves rarely say truly towny shit. And before I started rereading I came to the conclusion that c4 should be town, but honestly, that seems weak now.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:12 amI'm reading c4 and I kinda see why people are townreading this. The read on SPF looks like it's coming from a place of real solving. The pointed accusation that SPF is asking questions for the sake of asking questions. Implicitly wondering if dya's a wolf based on their comment about being told how to play FM. Those look real.

Also there's this. It doesn't stand out as much as when Vulgard said Dya was "repping" a read. But it certainly is a word choice saying that c4's thoughts look real, rather than, yeah I don't even know what else, but that they are real. I'll try to see whether Vulgard has yikes wording towards others too.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:06 pm i actually thought i died a decent chunk of the time cause ppl were back to villa reading me and spf kept expressing susp on bronana

I thought Nut would die here almost all of the time. I even skipped her posts when reading.

Did you expect to die over Nut?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:14 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:06 pm i actually thought i died a decent chunk of the time cause ppl were back to villa reading me and spf kept expressing susp on bronana

I thought Nut would die here almost all of the time. I even skipped her posts when reading.

Did you expect to die over Nut?

yes?

nutella changes her thoughts every post

while i thought it reasonable for nutella to die tonight, i figured i would die either tonight or tomorrow and zack would die in the other night

(i also thought i would die more often in worlds where c4 is a wolf so theres that too)

i'm gonna have to do a lot of thinking today

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:24 pm i actually kind of like her posts. why is she a wolf?

@nutella In this post Dya is challenging c4's wolf read of SPF. c4's read is expressed confidently and based on meta. So if v!c4 comes in and is like "SPF is a wolf, I have a real read and I have meta and I can read her" kind of vibes, I highly doubt that Dya's second ever meaningful post is going to be a straight up defence like this. Almost everyone I see lean towards not defending mates early on and are rather (too much imo) distancy instead.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:17 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:14 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:06 pm i actually thought i died a decent chunk of the time cause ppl were back to villa reading me and spf kept expressing susp on bronana

I thought Nut would die here almost all of the time. I even skipped her posts when reading.

Did you expect to die over Nut?

yes?

nutella changes her thoughts every post

while i thought it reasonable for nutella to die tonight, i figured i would die either tonight or tomorrow and zack would die in the other night

(i also thought i would die more often in worlds where c4 is a wolf so theres that too)

But Nut will not get chopped, while you might. I'm quite surprised Nut didn't die, but maybe that's just my perspective.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:18 pm i'm gonna have to do a lot of thinking today

That's lame. Have you not had thinking after Aroot flipped?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:20 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:18 pm i'm gonna have to do a lot of thinking today

That's lame. Have you not had thinking after Aroot flipped?

nah, i almost never think about games during the night - just a personal preference thing to keep myself from getting burned out, lol. i was actually expecting either nutella or outed wolf to die

[VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:18 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:24 pm i actually kind of like her posts. why is she a wolf?

@nutella In this post Dya is challenging c4's wolf read of SPF. c4's read is expressed confidently and based on meta. So if v!c4 comes in and is like "SPF is a wolf, I have a real read and I have meta and I can read her" kind of vibes, I highly doubt that Dya's second ever meaningful post is going to be a straight up defence like this. Almost everyone I see lean towards not defending mates early on and are rather (too much imo) distancy instead.

this isn't remotely clearing for either spf or c4 imo

but i also just kind of want to sheep your reads because i'm tired of thinking

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:21 pm [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

what prompted you to switch from voting c4 to voting outed wolf? was it because of the fact that he voted you? i'm just wondering because this suspicion against outed wolf seems like something that you've been considering a lot, but you came into the day sounding like c4 was your primary suspect. could you just walk me through your thought process a bit here regarding outed wolf?

also, why does zack dying point to outed wolf being mafia? zack felt fairly strongly that outed wolf was town, yeah? do you think that outed wolf was worried about zack catching him?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:21 pm [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

lmao

i think i have barely talked to you in the last couple phases

you do you though!

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:26 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:21 pm [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

what prompted you to switch from voting c4 to voting outed wolf? was it because of the fact that he voted you? i'm just wondering because this suspicion against outed wolf seems like something that you've been considering a lot, but you came into the day sounding like c4 was your primary suspect. could you just walk me through your thought process a bit here regarding outed wolf?

his vote may have contributed to a general feeling from his other sod posts that he's faking town perspective, but nah i was thinking about it from the moment i saw zack died instead of me and have not been set on c4 at all

It's between c4 and Visor for me. I'm hoping to find one of them town, cause I don't like having more than one suspect when there's no more than one mafia.

I don't think the bussing of Dya starts in a way that is clearing for Visor. He asks Sunbae "talk to me about Dya" and Sunbae basically says "Dya is scummy" to which Visor replies "Yeah, Dya is scummy". And then I haven't gotten very much further with it. There are certain points that looks town for Visor as well, or rather, are bizarre things as mafia. I don't know. I don't find any clearing interaction between flipped scum and Visor yet.

c4, I'll repeat this and ask for thoughts:

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:12 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:11 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:09 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:08 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:02 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:44 pm maybe stop trying to tell me how to play a light fucking game

Someone tell me if dya has any kind of history taking criticism to their wolf game personally

Or I could just

Hey @dyachei
Do you take criticism to your wolf game personally?

I don't take criticisms personally, if that's what you're asking? I do however hate being told how to play mafia. It's a pet peeve of mine

Pet peeve regardless of alignment?

yes regardless of alignment

The interaction just drops off after this. And I don't understand why v!c4 would assume it being taking criticism for their wolf game specifically rather than just their game in general.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:27 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:21 pm [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

yeah i think your shit is just fake

your indignance at any implication you would have bussed dya or not killed amy or any other detail is garbo, like you feel entitled to being townread
your turnaround on dya was exaggerated, didn't feel at all natural like the wavering i had on her
your incessant questioning of my reads on the poe/mischops in the last couple phases has been exceedingly performative

i'm not buying it anymore

lmao

i think i have barely talked to you in the last couple phases

you do you though!

lol what

i could pull up multiquotes

of like

20 posts in a row on d5 where you asked me to elaborate on my tangy read
and several yesterday on arete/others

you keep prodding me to delve deeper into my solves and i mentioned earlier how it prompts me to confbias more on things that have since turned out to be wrong

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:18 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:24 pm i actually kind of like her posts. why is she a wolf?

@nutella In this post Dya is challenging c4's wolf read of SPF. c4's read is expressed confidently and based on meta. So if v!c4 comes in and is like "SPF is a wolf, I have a real read and I have meta and I can read her" kind of vibes, I highly doubt that Dya's second ever meaningful post is going to be a straight up defence like this. Almost everyone I see lean towards not defending mates early on and are rather (too much imo) distancy instead.

this isn't remotely clearing for either spf or c4 imo

but i also just kind of want to sheep your reads because i'm tired of thinking

I think you should sheep my reads. Your first read list was very bad seeing the flips lol.

No, but for real. I do think that is pretty clearing for SPF. I've rarely seen that kind of early interaction from w/w. Similar to how I've rarely seen wolf piggy back of other wolf with "exactly" - how I cleared Zack.

I also don't want to think and just want to run with it tbh.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:28 pm c4, I'll repeat this and ask for thoughts:

I do remember rereading that interaction the other night and having mixed feelings about it