The Syndicate

I find the push against inactive players, Dana in particular, very suspicious, and I will do everything in my power to avoid a Dana lynch because I am positive she isn't bad.

Yes it can be frustrating when people don't play but the hosts have already replaced so many players and Dana contributed plenty early but hasn't been around in a while - no one is telling anyone how much or how little to post. Just because she hasn't come back doesn't mean she's bad, just that she is a busy and disinterested civilian.

Don't let your dislike for inactive players interfere with baddie hunting. If Chris continues going this direction, you better bet I will try to lynch him.

MovingPictures07 wrote:you better bet I will try to lynch him.

Wow...

Like, even if I'm a civvie?


And you have no problem with her missing 4 votes, in a row, out of 8?

juliets wrote:ninjablooper, glad to see you here. Can you share with us what you think about any of these players being talked about or even someone not being talked about lately? I'm not asking for a big case, just some thoughts.

Just so I don't leave you hanging, I'm catching up a bit - I honestly missed the whole case on sabie, so that'll give you an idea of how far behind I am

As far as Epi goes, I really do think he's just burned out. I've said it before and I'll say it again - people say he acts strange/different/like a baddie, but he really just acts like himself, so it's not particularly weird behavior to me. Even though I know I'm a quieter player, I advocate having a look at quieter players, since surely not all of the baddies are out in the open like he is.

Are people saying Chris is the Master? I think I saw that a few pages back, but haven't gotten a chance to see exactly why this is so. I'm begrudgingly willing to glean posts and posts for it, but I'd much appreciate the shortened version if someone can oblige me

Linki: Interesting you say that, MP. My comment is certainly not out of dislike of quieter players (obviously); it's really an observation. The problem is, it's hard to build a case against them without looking like, well, you don't like their quietness.

I don't even know if any of that made sense. I'm so fucking burned out and tired from work I don't even know half of what I'm saying anymore

Chris wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:you better bet I will try to lynch him.

Wow...

Like, even if I'm a civvie?


And you have no problem with her missing 4 votes, in a row, out of 8?

That doesn't make her a baddie, does it?

Not at all, but it sure might make her decide to start playing again...

I just think I'm in a foul mood because I know I'm going to die, and it's going to be because I made cases...

No, Chris, if I really strongly felt you were civvie I would not vote you. But truth is not sure whether you are and it's undeniable that ever since you survived those 2 NKs your play style has transformed from relatively under the radar to incredibly over the top. That in itself isn't am indication of anything but if you seriously think leading lynches on quiet players because you're annoyed with them makes more sense than actually baddie hunting then yes you deserve to be heavily suspected for that.

I found Snow Dog's "yeah!" even more suspicious than your thoughts on the matter frankly.

If you are a civvie Chris please continue to baddie hunt. Do not vote for someone because you are annoyed they aren't posting. That does us no good. Especially since you were possibly onto something IMO with your previous analyses regarding Bass and Snow Dog.

That's all.

And don't worry man I know how it feels to pour your heart and soul and time into really playing a game to your full potential and losing it because disinterested players didn't do the same. But don't let that cloud judgment or the reality that it doesn't necessarily make those players bad.

Thanks for your response nijablooper and you sounded fine.

Chris wrote:duh DUH DUH!!!

And who, pray tell, would that be Epig?

Why are you insisting that I'm The Master? I know you didn't role check me... did you get bad info? Other than me surviving 2 NKs, and not voting MM, do you have any actual thread evidence?

Or is it all hyperbole?

I was thinking about this a good bit today. I also thought about a few other scenarios, playing with what ifs and what could bes and what have you. But never mind.

No, I didn't check you. I can't do that and I'm not on a team with anyone who can. Precisely as I said. And since sabie got lynched (showing that the role checker was alive the whole time), this nonsense about me making a lie detector statement to fool the lie detector demonstrates without question that I was not lying. But never mind.

Do you know who did role check you? Ah.

Chris
3
Dom (7), sabie12 (8), DFaraday (14)
13%


Jerry bear (Chris)
3
Epignosis (6), sabie12 (13), Snow Dog (14)
12%

++++

sabie, THE role checker, voted for you twice in a row. And the Cybermen tried to kill you. She must want you out something fierce.

But never mind. She must have had bad info.

Right?

Chris wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:you better bet I will try to lynch him.

Wow...

Like, even if I'm a civvie?
And you have no problem with her missing 4 votes, in a row, out of 8?

How does this make her bad?

Chris wrote:Not at all, but it sure might make her decide to start playing again...

So... pile on a bunch of votes onto someone based on inactivity, to get them to pay attention?

Chris wrote:I just think I'm in a foul mood because I know I'm going to die, and it's going to be because I made cases...

Do you know how suspicious it sounds to repeatedly remind everyone that you MIGHT be NK'd?

Epignosis wrote:

Chris wrote:duh DUH DUH!!!

And who, pray tell, would that be Epig?

Why are you insisting that I'm The Master? I know you didn't role check me... did you get bad info? Other than me surviving 2 NKs, and not voting MM, do you have any actual thread evidence?

Or is it all hyperbole?

I was thinking about this a good bit today. I also thought about a few other scenarios, playing with what ifs and what could bes and what have you. But never mind.

No, I didn't check you. I can't do that and I'm not on a team with anyone who can. Precisely as I said. And since sabie got lynched (showing that the role checker was alive the whole time), this nonsense about me making a lie detector statement to fool the lie detector demonstrates without question that I was not lying. But never mind.

Do you know who did role check you? Ah.

Chris
3
Dom (7), sabie12 (8), DFaraday (14)
13%


Jerry bear (Chris)
3
Epignosis (6), sabie12 (13), Snow Dog (14)
12%

++++

sabie, THE role checker, voted for you twice in a row. And the Cybermen tried to kill you. She must want you out something fierce.

But never mind. She must have had bad info.

Right?

Interesting, which billetdoux were they, 7 block daguerreotype?

Epignosis wrote:

Chris wrote:duh DUH DUH!!!

And who, pray tell, would that be Epig?

Why are you insisting that I'm The Master? I know you didn't role check me... did you get bad info? Other than me surviving 2 NKs, and not voting MM, do you have any actual thread evidence?

Or is it all hyperbole?

I was thinking about this a good bit today. I also thought about a few other scenarios, playing with what ifs and what could bes and what have you. But never mind.

No, I didn't check you. I can't do that and I'm not on a team with anyone who can. Precisely as I said. And since sabie got lynched (showing that the role checker was alive the whole time), this nonsense about me making a lie detector statement to fool the lie detector demonstrates without question that I was not lying. But never mind.

Do you know who did role check you? Ah.

Chris
3
Dom (7), sabie12 (8), DFaraday (14)
13%


Jerry bear (Chris)
3
Epignosis (6), sabie12 (13), Snow Dog (14)
12%

++++

sabie, THE role checker, voted for you twice in a row. And the Cybermen tried to kill you. She must want you out something fierce.

But never mind. She must have had bad info.

Right?

You don't think there could be civvie roles the baddies would want out badly~ only the Master?

This analysis implies the baddies may have wanted him dead, not that he was any specific role.

Epignosis wrote:

Chris wrote:duh DUH DUH!!!

And who, pray tell, would that be Epig?

Why are you insisting that I'm The Master? I know you didn't role check me... did you get bad info? Other than me surviving 2 NKs, and not voting MM, do you have any actual thread evidence?

Or is it all hyperbole?

I was thinking about this a good bit today. I also thought about a few other scenarios, playing with what ifs and what could bes and what have you. But never mind.

No, I didn't check you. I can't do that and I'm not on a team with anyone who can. Precisely as I said. And since sabie got lynched (showing that the role checker was alive the whole time), this nonsense about me making a lie detector statement to fool the lie detector demonstrates without question that I was not lying. But never mind.

Do you know who did role check you? Ah.

Chris
3
Dom (7), sabie12 (8), DFaraday (14)
13%


Jerry bear (Chris)
3
Epignosis (6), sabie12 (13), Snow Dog (14)
12%

++++

sabie, THE role checker, voted for you twice in a row. And the Cybermen tried to kill you. She must want you out something fierce.

But never mind. She must have had bad info.

Right?

Or, Chris is that role that's hard to kill with an NK, y'know, the one he's hinted at?

Chris wrote:Why are you insisting that I'm The Master? I know you didn't role check me... did you get bad info? Other than me surviving 2 NKs, and not voting MM, do you have any actual thread evidence?

Chris wrote:There's NOTHING to work with when looking for The Master or the recruiter. The Master's BTSC partner was recruited, who knows when, and most likely never had contact. What is there to look for?

According to Chris, there's nothing to work with when looking for The Master (or the recruiter).

But I need ACTUAL thread evidence to hunt for either, according to Chris.

Addendum: I don't know what you're saying this time, LC.

Addendum 2: A moment, S~V~S. I want to post.

Addendum 3: Holy shit. I want to post. Also, damn.

keys56000000000 wrote:Or, Chris is that role that's hard to kill with an NK, y'know, the one he's hinted at?

Or, Eloh is that role and she isn't pay attention to shit.

Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.

Epignosis wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:Or, Chris is that role that's hard to kill with an NK, y'know, the one he's hinted at?

Or, Eloh is that role and she isn't pay attention to shit.

No. Chris is who he claims to be.

keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.

wat

keys56000000000 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:Or, Chris is that role that's hard to kill with an NK, y'know, the one he's hinted at?

Or, Eloh is that role and she isn't pay attention to shit.

No. Chris is who he claims to be.

Very well. That doesn't change my case against him one iota.

wow chris look at that you're alive!

keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.

We're you even paying attention?

There is little chance that is who DF is.

Linki what a surprise!

Hedgeowl wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.

We're you even paying attention?

There is little chance that is who DF is.

Linki what a surprise!

Hedge, can you tell me why it's so obvious DF isn't a Cyberman?
Can you also tell me what you mean by your winking face?

zeek got resurrected with MM in the same breath. That...bodes poorly.

Hedge, Dom, I don't understand your consternation. What have I missed that eliminates DF from being cyberhead?

Sup!

Can't believe I'm alive again, this is awesome!!!

Welcome back, Zeek and MM! Not going to trust a word you guys say!

keys56000000000 wrote:Hedge, Dom, I don't understand your consternation. What have I missed that eliminates DF from being cyberhead?

I am questioning Hedge about that.

I'm just curious why you think he is the cyber that can't be ok'd

I have no idea who DF is and it bothers me because I think I'm usually pretty good at reading him.

Epignosis wrote:zeek got resurrected with MM in the same breath. That...bodes poorly.

especially given MM's status....


how did zeek die again?

Kate enslavement a lynch, two rezzes, hylotheism all sorts Piggies whaa!

Ha ha, just kidding! I'm SANE again!! Good to have my mind back. At least I knew with the double targeting rule, I was safe last night. And now it's a brand new dawn, YES, Day NINE! I know there's some people who have decoded some of the unrevealed Civvie roles that will know what I mean.

I am very surprised that the Cybermen chose to kill Dana, but I think it was a respectable move. They want to take out "confirmed" Civvies, so they go for someone that The Doctor insisted was good... but they also choose a low-poster, leaving the more impassioned, involved players alone this time.

A failed Strax kill is always such a conundrum. Well, not for keys apparently. So, today, we'll have a push for voting Epig, for voting Chris, for voting DFaraday, for voting Bass... I wonder how it will turn out?

I'm getting too convinced by these cases. Chris' analysis of his version of the Cyber Team based on vote analysis was convincing to me, but then it's true that a lot of those votes were the "popular" vote of the day, evident when he added another player or two to the list of "they satisfy the vote conditions for my Cyber suspicion" alongside Epig, Bass, and Snow Dog.

Epig's observation of Sabie's role-checker-infused votes on Chris made sense, but then keys observed that the Cyber Team would also want to lynch a role that was a hard-to-kill Civvie role... like Chris was claiming.

Now keys is, like, SO sure of DFaraday... even though a Strax survive could be Civvie. What if Strax had failed to kill me? Would keys be coming after me instead?

Woah guys, I'm not connected to MM in the slightest. I was killed first attempt by a cyberman. Can't be any of the baddies left.

Long Con wrote: Now keys is, like, SO sure of DFaraday... even though a Strax survive could be Civvie. What if Strax had failed to kill me? Would keys be coming after me instead?

I don't think so...

What do you make of the fezzes?

Epignosis wrote:zeek got resurrected with MM in the same breath. That...bodes poorly.

Why?

I had the impression that they both won prizes the other night? What prize could you give a deadie other than a rezz?

Let's hope MM does not do too much mischief before we can lynch him again.

I'm not sure by any means that DF is the cyberhead, I'm just going off a hunch. Lots of people survived NKs - DF, someone I already suspect, surviving one too, pings me. There's a lot of time left, maybe I'll try to identify exactly how I feel about him and put it in words.

But I'm not staking my reputation on this or anything.

keys56000000000 wrote:I'm not sure by any means that DF is the cyberhead, I'm just going off a hunch. Lots of people survived NKs - DF, someone I already suspect, surviving one too, pings me. There's a lot of time left, maybe I'll try to identify exactly how I feel about him and put it in words.

But I'm not staking my reputation on this or anything.

Can you summarize your thoughts on DF for me, then? I don't remember having a meaningful discussion on him at any point.

In any case, both zeek & MM are off the table today, so

Faraday surviving a Strax kill makes me less inclined to suspect him rather than more. He does seem a bit blendier than is usual even for him, though, so maybe he needs a reread.

Tomorrow, since I am out for the night

xox happy mafia players

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.

We're you even paying attention?

There is little chance that is who DF is.

Linki what a surprise!

Hedge, can you tell me why it's so obvious DF isn't a Cyberman?
Can you also tell me what you mean by your winking face?

DF was targeted by Strax, so I had a brain blip thinking he had to be civ. of course, he could also be cyber head, just not other Cybers.
I thought your post about Chris was sarcastic.

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:zeek got resurrected with MM in the same breath. That...bodes poorly.

Why?

I had the impression that they both won prizes the other night? What prize could you give a deadie other than a rezz?

Let's hope MM does not do too much mischief before we can lynch him again.

A "Well Done, You Disgusting Disgrace Against Humanity" prize?

Didn't they both win BWT's card game Friday night?

Hedgeowl wrote:

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:Sheeeit.

Well, I think DF is head Cyberjerk, so I've voted.

We're you even paying attention?

There is little chance that is who DF is.

Linki what a surprise!

Hedge, can you tell me why it's so obvious DF isn't a Cyberman?
Can you also tell me what you mean by your winking face?

DF was targeted by Strax, so I had a brain blip thinking he had to be civ. of course, he could also be cyber head, just not other Cybers.
I thought your post about Chris was sarcastic.

It was to an extent... I just think it's very fishy when people are SO SURE they will die in the night and then don't.

S~V~S wrote:Didn't they both win BWT's card game Friday night?

I don't know. I played once and was a runner up. My response to you was a joke.

Dom wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:I'm not sure by any means that DF is the cyberhead, I'm just going off a hunch. Lots of people survived NKs - DF, someone I already suspect, surviving one too, pings me. There's a lot of time left, maybe I'll try to identify exactly how I feel about him and put it in words.

But I'm not staking my reputation on this or anything.

Can you summarize your thoughts on DF for me, then? I don't remember having a meaningful discussion on him at any point.

Essentially, I think he's been virtually perfect, which troubles me. He's too clean, y'know? Probably not, I don't think I can articulate this well at the moment. I'll need to frame this better. But I think the same of a few players. I'm interested in the ones that seem to be playing a very careful, straight-and-narrow sort of game. You players think you can see the end, that you can just hold on and make it - I'm onto you!

No, scratch that, i just looked, and zeek did NOT win. It was MP, MM & Hedge. I thought it was zeek, MM & Hedge.

Now, really, nighters

LC, I just wanted to point out about Epig's point of Sabie the role checker voting for me twice.

First, since when does anyone trust a baddie?

Second, she voted for me days 7 & 8. Day 8, I laid a case out that got her lynched.

Why is anyone shocked she voted for me? And day 7's vote? I just survived 2 NKs... that was the PERFECT way to say that I was The Master.


LINKI @ Dom: You don't think that someone who repeatedly talks about how sure that they are that they are going to be killed is a tactic to actually dissuade the NK?

Besides, it shouldn't be shocking that they didn't NK me... If they did, and I died, they couldn't POSSIBLY frame me for being The Master... If I was The Master, I would have survived one more time...

Right?

Chris wrote:LC, I just wanted to point out about Epig's point of Sabie the role checker voting for me twice.

First, since when does anyone trust a baddie?

Chris wrote: Second, she voted for me days 7 & 8. Day 8, I laid a case out that got her lynched.

I gotta ask, did anyone vote Sabie because of the case Chris made? Just curious.

keys, why is this an issue for you?