The Syndicate

Russ, you're right about that interpretation of MP's rule about infodumping. I read it wrong the first time.

Russtifinko wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Feeling increasingly good about my vote.

I'm not. It just occurred to me that L might not be coming up with his own percentages, but they are generated by MP, and L comes up with his own conclusion. Sorry if someone else already said this.

.....but Elo has now outed herself, so.....

Linki: Thanks, juliets! Right about what?

no no....don't say that. I didn't out myself. I was never even clear on my reasons for voting the person I voted. I was VERY careful not to go against the rules.

Russtifinko wrote:And why is nobody talking about the fact that LYNCHING TH PUT ANOTHER DEATH NOTE IN CIRCULATION????

That seems like something people might want to notice. And, since only one type of being has Death Notes (I'll give you a hint - it rhymes with "Hello, Mommy"), that's more evidence that lynching TH again would be a gigantic waste of time.

wat

Russtifinko wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Feeling increasingly good about my vote.

I'm not. It just occurred to me that L might not be coming up with his own percentages, but they are generated by MP, and L comes up with his own conclusion. Sorry if someone else already said this.

.....but Elo has now outed herself, so.....

Linki: Thanks, juliets! Right about what?

That's what I get for making comments while I'm still catching up.

Linki: Regardless of your alignment Elo, I know what you mean. Since you can't really win anymore (assuming you get lynched), then you have no reason to be pro-detective.

juliets wrote:Russ, you're right about that interpretation of MP's rule about infodumping. I read it wrong the first time.

Oh! Gotcha.

And uhhh MM....more about what?

Linki: Sorry, Elo. To be clear, I'm not accusing you of breaking the rules. However, after you took over 50% of the votes, you admitted to attempting to vote for L. I would assume to pick L out for Kira, which leads to the deduction that L is right and you're a Sympathizer. So you didn't role out yourself, but it's clear that you are bad.

Which raises the point of why MM would be questioning L after you posted that.

Also, I echo others' thoughts that you played it extremely well, even though L got you in the end.

Linki again: but MM, players can win while dead in this game....

Lynching me did not put another Death Note in circulation. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion.

I don't remember civilians ever being able to win if they are dead. And in this case, I will regard the detectives as civilians.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:That's what I get for making comments while I'm still catching up.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Feeling increasingly good about my vote.

I'm not. It just occurred to me that L might not be coming up with his own percentages, but they are generated by MP, and L comes up with his own conclusion. Sorry if someone else already said this.

DH's comment that you replied to came after Elo said she was voting for who she believed was L. Did you read the thread out of order?

FZ. wrote:I find myself agreeing with llama on this. Don't see any different type of kills, just that Ace was the only player almost confirmed civ, so probably the best option for a kill.

As for giving up the note, I know it's probably there on the first page, but I'm short on time and would appreciate the help for when I come back later: What happens if Kira gives up the note? Does he ever get it back or does he just becomes like a Kira supporter? I get that he can't be lynched or something. Is that for the rest of the game, or just once? Would it be a good strategy to give up that note for a Kira?

Don't know if FZ. is still around, but: what did you mean by Aces having been the only player almost confirmed civ? I don't remember anyone saying that about him or anything he did pointing out at that.

Oh, but I guess that doesn't account for baddies and other alignments. Well, whatever.

Linki: @TH Yes I did. That post from DH was the first on the new page.

Russtifinko wrote:

zeek wrote:DH - Little things really. Like your last comment on L's post being poorly done. I could see that coming from an annoyed baddie. Just little things, not enough for me to vote for you in the future.

TH - Epi has equally worried me and made sense to me. Whatever role he has I'd be shocked if it's Kira. Same with MM tbh, I find myself agreeing with him more often than not however.

So you're already committed to never voting DH?? That's weird.

You enlargened the wrong part. Fixed it for you. Those little things aren't enough for my to vote for him in the future, meaning after today - because I've voted Elo. Pretty meaningless if I said they're not enough to vote for him now.

Also, I don't understand why TH being lynched has caused another Death Note

Now, on a lighter note, dead players may win this game so long as their win condition is fulfilled.

This^^ is what MP said at the beginning of the game about winning when you are dead.

Russtifinko wrote:

juliets wrote:Russ, you're right about that interpretation of MP's rule about infodumping. I read it wrong the first time.

Oh! Gotcha.

And uhhh MM....more about what?

Linki: Sorry, Elo. To be clear, I'm not accusing you of breaking the rules. However, after you took over 50% of the votes, you admitted to attempting to vote for L. I would assume to pick L out for Kira, which leads to the deduction that L is right and you're a Sympathizer. So you didn't role out yourself, but it's clear that you are bad.

Which raises the point of why MM would be questioning L after you posted that.

Also, I echo others' thoughts that you played it extremely well, even though L got you in the end.

Linki again: but MM, players can win while dead in this game....

More about this new Death Note going into circulation.

And per Eloh, well, playing the obvious baddie is not 'outing yourself'.

juliets wrote:Now, on a lighter note, dead players may win this game so long as their win condition is fulfilled.

This^^ is what MP said at the beginning of the game about winning when you are dead.

Thanks, and thankfully I can rule out my original thought.

I'm going to also go with L's call in the end and vote for Elo. I'm not sure that what L did was an official or allowed outing, because his secrets haven't been revealed and there's not much known about whether L at some point receives more certain results from his checking or what kind of likelihood/percentages is he working with. I'm also not sure I can go with FZ's idea that L actually did a subtle outing on Elo being (a) Kira by saying there's 0% chance she can be - this reminds me that the first thing I asked, when L's first message came about Russ standing at 4% or something like that, was if we should trust this as an actual likelihood or as L telling us it's actually the other way around (like just L in the show did), but at that point nobody seemed to have that in mind or want to treat L's percentange as anything but how they were stated. My only good interpretation of L's message is that he managed to read more into or pick up something about Elo. I myself still cannot find more in her posts beside the three things could have drawn suspicion on her, but maybe L managed better deductions. We'll find out if that's true, obviously.

Rico would you give a quick overview about how L uses percentages in the show? If it was explained earlier it has flown right out of my head.

juliets wrote:Rico would you give a quick overview about how L uses percentages in the show? If it was explained earlier it has flown right out of my head.

This has been said by the writer of the manga

Whenever L gives percentages to indicate how much he suspects a person of committing a crime, such as "five percent", in reality he means over 90 percent; Ohba said about L, "The truth is, he's a liar [laughs]".

Also, much of the time, at least in the anime, L stated this "five percent chance of being Kira" only about Light.

Thanks Rico that was really helpful.

Russ flying by with that statement about another Death Note and then leaving again doesn't ease my suspicions. I'm voting Elo though.

So I was caught in linki before I had to run out and pick up MP. I was in a rush to get my post up and vote in case I wasn't back in time. So I did not see ELo had actually said she was trying to vote L, lol. Glad I voted her for sure now. That being said...

Russtifinko wrote:And why is nobody talking about the fact that LYNCHING TH PUT ANOTHER DEATH NOTE IN CIRCULATION????

That seems like something people might want to notice. And, since only one type of being has Death Notes (I'll give you a hint - it rhymes with "Hello, Mommy"), that's more evidence that lynching TH again would be a gigantic waste of time.

What? Did I miss something in the roles that says trying to lynch a shinigami puts a death note in circulation? I'm not sure where this is coming from.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Day 4: Super Turnip Bro.

THELLAMA73: Turnip Head, you change your mind too much!
TURNIP HEAD: Do I?
THELLAMA73: Also, you love puzzles more than catching Kira. That makes you bad.
TURNIP HEAD: Does it?
THELLAMA73: Yep. I feel good about this lynch.

Sockface prepared to write Turnip Head's name in the Lynch Note. Turnip Head started laughing.

EPIGNOSIS: Why are you laughing?
TURNIP HEAD: No reason.

Suddenly, Turnip Head grabbed a giant turnip from the ground SMB2-style and chucked it at Sockface.

Sockface screamed in terror as he was knocked over by the turnip. Turnip Head quickly snagged the Death Note.

TURNIP HEAD: Yep. Just call me Captain Turnip Head: Survivor of Lynches.
DHARMAHELPER: How about no?


No one has been lynched.

It is now Night 4.

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

Now I get why no one has been talking about this; no one noticed it but me, I guess.

zeek, thanks of the response.

MM, two things:

1) The host has confirmed that civs can win while dead in this game.
2) You're dodging the point of my argument about your Elo feeling. You said you didn't feel good about your vote more or less immediately after Elo made it blindingly obvious she was bad.

Why are you arguing obvious, proveable points? And why don't you feel good about voting obvious baddies? You are pinging me something fierce today, friend.

I am going to vote for Elochin because I want to trust L. If Elo flips Detective, then I will be really disappointed in L and I will have a hard time trusting him/her in the future.

Another Death Note has not been put in circulation; that was merely for story. Sorry for the confusion.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Another Death Note has not been put in circulation; that was merely for story. Sorry for the confusion.

Thing is, no one was confused in any way by that, except for Russ who decided flavour storylines are now game indicative.

rekt m8

Russtifinko wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Day 4: Super Turnip Bro.

THELLAMA73: Turnip Head, you change your mind too much!
TURNIP HEAD: Do I?
THELLAMA73: Also, you love puzzles more than catching Kira. That makes you bad.
TURNIP HEAD: Does it?
THELLAMA73: Yep. I feel good about this lynch.

Sockface prepared to write Turnip Head's name in the Lynch Note. Turnip Head started laughing.

EPIGNOSIS: Why are you laughing?
TURNIP HEAD: No reason.

Suddenly, Turnip Head grabbed a giant turnip from the ground SMB2-style and chucked it at Sockface.

Sockface screamed in terror as he was knocked over by the turnip. Turnip Head quickly snagged the Death Note.

TURNIP HEAD: Yep. Just call me Captain Turnip Head: Survivor of Lynches.
DHARMAHELPER: How about no?


No one has been lynched.

It is now Night 4.

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

Now I get why no one has been talking about this; no one noticed it but me, I guess.

zeek, thanks of the response.

MM, two things:

1) The host has confirmed that civs can win while dead in this game.
2) You're dodging the point of my argument about your Elo feeling. You said you didn't feel good about your vote more or less immediately after Elo made it blindingly obvious she was bad.

Why are you arguing obvious, proveable points? And why don't you feel good about voting obvious baddies? You are pinging me something fierce today, friend.

The Sockface has been writing names in a lynch note this whole time. This is not a new development.

I already told you I had not seen Elo's post as of yet. How many times do I have to answer that question?

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Another Death Note has not been put in circulation; that was merely for story. Sorry for the confusion.

Thing is, no one was confused in any way by that, except for Russ who decided flavour storylines are now game indicative.

Maybe after seeing that L was allowed to share my alignment freely in the thread, Russ thought that it would be possible that MP was sharing info in his stories.

I voted Eloh, but I still need to catch up.

Epignosis wrote:

boo wrote:Well, Eloh it is.

Was it just me, or did Boomslang's autopilot comment raise any eyebrows though? Setting up the next lynch before the current one is even over does not inspire trust.

boo wrote:I think potential BWT voters should vote llama. But I'd also like to point out to potential BWT voters that they're a day behind, so if they lynch BWT today, then maybe they'll get to llama tomorrow. That would work.

I'm voting for boo.

And boo to L, even if you are right. I hope your feet cramp up and you choke on a macaroon.

Epi I don't understand this post. You are voting boo for being inconsistent? Is that what I am understanding?

A little less than 40 minutes in Day 5 and just 2 votes missing.

Elohcin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I find certain people suspicious of different things. As I am most likely getting lynched today, I feel I must vote for the player I think dropped "info" about me. Problem is...I keep going back and forth between BR and FZ, hence the reason I keep getting FZ and zomb mixed up. I thought I finally decided on BR, but then FZ's most recent comment makes me think her.

Did you seriously just say you're trying to vote for L?

Ran across this little beauty while catching up on the thread. Unbelievable!

Zomberella12 wrote:I am going to vote for Elochin because I want to trust L. If Elo flips Detective, then I will be really disappointed in L and I will have a hard time trusting him/her in the future.

Sorry. I just finished reading the thread and realized that this post (that I made when I voted) is pointless.

Spacedaisy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

boo wrote:Well, Eloh it is.

Was it just me, or did Boomslang's autopilot comment raise any eyebrows though? Setting up the next lynch before the current one is even over does not inspire trust.

boo wrote:I think potential BWT voters should vote llama. But I'd also like to point out to potential BWT voters that they're a day behind, so if they lynch BWT today, then maybe they'll get to llama tomorrow. That would work.

I'm voting for boo.

And boo to L, even if you are right. I hope your feet cramp up and you choke on a macaroon.

Epi I don't understand this post. You are voting boo for being inconsistent? Is that what I am understanding?

And in protest.

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:I find myself agreeing with llama on this. Don't see any different type of kills, just that Ace was the only player almost confirmed civ, so probably the best option for a kill.

As for giving up the note, I know it's probably there on the first page, but I'm short on time and would appreciate the help for when I come back later: What happens if Kira gives up the note? Does he ever get it back or does he just becomes like a Kira supporter? I get that he can't be lynched or something. Is that for the rest of the game, or just once? Would it be a good strategy to give up that note for a Kira?

Don't know if FZ. is still around, but: what did you mean by Aces having been the only player almost confirmed civ? I don't remember anyone saying that about him or anything he did pointing out at that.

It was in L's note to the thread a few days ago.

Just waiting on Made and Bass to vote.

Epignosis wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

boo wrote:Well, Eloh it is.

Was it just me, or did Boomslang's autopilot comment raise any eyebrows though? Setting up the next lynch before the current one is even over does not inspire trust.

boo wrote:I think potential BWT voters should vote llama. But I'd also like to point out to potential BWT voters that they're a day behind, so if they lynch BWT today, then maybe they'll get to llama tomorrow. That would work.

I'm voting for boo.

And boo to L, even if you are right. I hope your feet cramp up and you choke on a macaroon.

Epi I don't understand this post. You are voting boo for being inconsistent? Is that what I am understanding?

And in protest.

Protest of what?

@DH, I'm really liking where you are going with the idea that Light did not kill Aces . The targets and timing are certainly different. I have been doing a little bit of research and I'm thinking that maybe the note passed from a more experienced player to a less experienced player.

Spacedaisy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

boo wrote:Well, Eloh it is.

Was it just me, or did Boomslang's autopilot comment raise any eyebrows though? Setting up the next lynch before the current one is even over does not inspire trust.

boo wrote:I think potential BWT voters should vote llama. But I'd also like to point out to potential BWT voters that they're a day behind, so if they lynch BWT today, then maybe they'll get to llama tomorrow. That would work.

I'm voting for boo.

And boo to L, even if you are right. I hope your feet cramp up and you choke on a macaroon.

Epi I don't understand this post. You are voting boo for being inconsistent? Is that what I am understanding?

And in protest.

Protest of what?

Yes, I think boo is mightily inconsistent and I think he is bad. I've said so before.

My protest was against L. I don't agree with his "presentation of the facts" as it were.

Ok, gotcha Epi. Thanks for clarifying.

Zomberella12 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:I find myself agreeing with llama on this. Don't see any different type of kills, just that Ace was the only player almost confirmed civ, so probably the best option for a kill.

As for giving up the note, I know it's probably there on the first page, but I'm short on time and would appreciate the help for when I come back later: What happens if Kira gives up the note? Does he ever get it back or does he just becomes like a Kira supporter? I get that he can't be lynched or something. Is that for the rest of the game, or just once? Would it be a good strategy to give up that note for a Kira?

Don't know if FZ. is still around, but: what did you mean by Aces having been the only player almost confirmed civ? I don't remember anyone saying that about him or anything he did pointing out at that.

It was in L's note to the thread a few days ago.

Please point out, in that case, where L said Ace is "almost confirmed civ".

Zomberella12 wrote:@DH, I'm really liking where you are going with the idea that Light did not kill Aces . The targets and timing are certainly different. I have been doing a little bit of research and I'm thinking that maybe the note passed from a more experienced player to a less experienced player.

Yay.

Who is Kira?

Poll ended at Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:07:16 pm


AceofSpaces
0
No votes
Bass_the_Clever
0
No votes
bea
0
No votes
Black Rock
1
Elohcin (17) 4%
boo
1
Epignosis (19) 4%
Boomslang
0
No votes
DharmaHelper
0
No votes
DisgruntledPorcupine
0
No votes
Elohcin
17
Turnip Head (2), Russtifinko (3), DharmaHelper (5), thellama73 (8), Boomslang (9), Metalmarsh89 (10), juliets (11), zeek (12), Black Rock (13), FZ. (14), bea (15), boo (16), Spacedaisy (18), Ricochet (20), DisgruntledPorcupine (21), Zomberella12 (22), Matahari (23) 74%
Epignosis
0
No votes
FZ.
0
No votes
juliets
0
No votes
Made
0
No votes
Matahari
0
No votes
Metalmarsh89
0
No votes
Ricochet
0
No votes
Russtifinko
0
No votes
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
thellama73
0
No votes
Turnip Head
0
No votes
zeek
0
No votes
Zomberella12
0
No votes
A real jerk! (host, deadies, nons)
4
MovingPictures07 (1), Roxy (4), Golden (6), AceofSpaces (7) 17%
Total votes : 23

MADE: L thinks you're bad.
TURNIP HEAD: Say it ain't so, Elo.
ELOHCIN: I don't know why L thinks that! He's wrong!

Sockface was about to write Elohcin's name in the Death Note.

ELOHCIN: Don't do it!!! I'll bake you a cake, L, whoever you are! Please!!! Just tell them you're wrong about me!!!

Sockface wrote down her name. Roughly 40 seconds later, Elochin collapsed to the ground, dying of a heart attack. Somewhere among the players, L was smiling. Cake was tempting, he thought to himself, but there's nothing as tasty as justice.


Elohcin has been lynched. She was Kiyomi Takada.

It is now Night 5.

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

Oh yay.

Ugh, Takada is dead and Misa is still roaming.

RIP Eloh.

Woo!

Not even someone that would possibly be an inactive Kira. L's message gave me the impression she may become Kira down the road. Not the worst lynch result though.

Linki: mm, what? You are unhappy a Kira sympathizer is dead?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ugh, Takada is dead and Misa is still roaming.

RIP Eloh.

"Ugh"

"RIP"

Spacedaisy wrote:Not even someone that would possibly be an inactive Kira. L's message gave me the impression she may become Kira down the road. Not the worst lynch result though.

Linki: mm, what? You are unhappy a Kira sympathizer is dead?

No, but regarding Light's girlfriends, I much prefer Takada over Misa.

Yeah I was really hoping for Misa or Mikami. Oh well.

See you in the next game Elo!