Re: Battlestar Galactica Mafia - Night Four
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:35 pm
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No, I didn't need to, I read her posts the first time around, as they happened.Polo wrote:Did you ISO OA?Long Con wrote:I think OA has been acting absolutely nuts, and I don't believe for a minute that what she says about being punished for Cylon-claiming is true.Spacedaisy wrote:What is your opinion of what I said earlier regarding Bea and OA?Long Con wrote:You guys will be wasting a lynch that could get you an actual baddie if you lynch me. You will literally be wasting a lynch and you will be one lynch behind come endgame when it matters. I can prove it if you just give me a little time. You seriously do not need to lynch me for any reason unless you are a Cylon.
I don't think that makes her a baddie necessarily, because I think someone has done something to OA, Silverwolf, and Matt (and others have been alluded to, but I don't know). I think that OA is not allowed to say the words "Cylon" or "toaster" today for some reason, which is possibly related. I feel like they think I'm responsible for their current condition.
So... what about bea again?
Agreed, bea's statement could apply to any human except the top four who can't be Cylons. Unless the Final Five already know who they are, which I doubt, it's not any sort of role claim or info drop.ObscureAllure wrote:Linki: I don't think what Bea did constitutes punishment regardless of her role because she made a general statement wifom (If I was final five...) and Golden's rules are to not quote inbox or info dump inbox. To me what she said is neither. I'm not golden so that's not my decision, but I don't see how others are saying she role claimed or info dumped. (And I actually think she's a mafia and I'm saying this, so it's not a defense of her role ... It's a defense of her post.)
I think that OA likes my face best when it is speaking things she can't say herself, but would like to.ObscureAllure wrote:I'm quoting this post for no other reason than that I like your face.Long Con wrote:I think OA has been acting absolutely nuts, and I don't believe for a minute that what she says about being punished for Cylon-claiming is true.Spacedaisy wrote:What is your opinion of what I said earlier regarding Bea and OA?Long Con wrote:You guys will be wasting a lynch that could get you an actual baddie if you lynch me. You will literally be wasting a lynch and you will be one lynch behind come endgame when it matters. I can prove it if you just give me a little time. You seriously do not need to lynch me for any reason unless you are a Cylon.
I don't think that makes her a baddie necessarily, because I think someone has done something to OA, Silverwolf, and Matt (and others have been alluded to, but I don't know). I think that OA is not allowed to say the words "Cylon" or "toaster" today for some reason, which is possibly related. I feel like they think I'm responsible for their current condition.
So... what about bea again?![]()
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As opposed to a "second lynch" pardon, right?Long Con wrote:Epi, I understand how you would read Polo's post as a slip, but I think you're reading it the wrong.
You are saying he said "first lynch pardon" as though the Cylons have more lynch pardons. Only a Cylon could know that, so that would be a slip.
However, I'm pretty sure he was saying "first lynch" pardon - as in, the first time they get lynched, they can claim Cylon and get pardoned... but they can't do that for their subsequent lynches.
I don't have any idea if Polo is good or bad, but I do believe that it's not a slip.
I understand the Cain suspicion. Cain's goal is eliminating all Cylons, and I have been clear that my goal is also to eliminate all Cylons. Most of the other stuff S~V~S has said is stuff she hasn't supported, only repeated. She says that I wanted to get lynched, but doesn't explain why she says that. She says that things like my "agenda" and my "demeanor" changed when Cain came on the scene, but she doesn't say why. Maybe she doesn't have the time to go through my posts and show everyone why she thinks that, I don't know. She's blithely ignoring much of what I have to say in response to her, I'm pretty sure that she thinks that she needs me dead to win. She's doing a fantastic job, actually, I'm really impressed, she's convinced a number of people that her views are just Civ/human viewpoint that they should share.Ricochet wrote:People should simply address what has been pointed at in regards to him being a Cylon and decide if it sounds genuine / plausible / etc. or not. You can stick with the Cain vibes just as much, if you like, but address actual suggestive statements made in the game first. My only gripe, as I've said before, is for it not to turn out to be yet another messy "Boomslang gambit".
Yes. I said "subsequent lynches", but for most people, that "second lynch" is the only other lynch they'll need.Epignosis wrote:As opposed to a "second lynch" pardon, right?Long Con wrote:Epi, I understand how you would read Polo's post as a slip, but I think you're reading it the wrong.
You are saying he said "first lynch pardon" as though the Cylons have more lynch pardons. Only a Cylon could know that, so that would be a slip.
However, I'm pretty sure he was saying "first lynch" pardon - as in, the first time they get lynched, they can claim Cylon and get pardoned... but they can't do that for their subsequent lynches.
I don't have any idea if Polo is good or bad, but I do believe that it's not a slip.
Don't tell Ricochet.Polo wrote:I've won all of the 4 games I played.
When you say "please don't tell me how to address things", that's fine, but the fact is that some players here are "addressing things" falsely, or avoiding addressing things in a straightforward way, or purposely addressing things in a manipulative way. Sometimes, critical analysis of HOW a player addresses things IS how you catch a baddie.S~V~S wrote:I play based on my gut and how I feel about others. Especially people like LC who is a very careful baddie. If you are unhappy with the way I present my suspicion, don't vote based on it. But please don;t tell me how I should address things, ok? I have no clue what a Boomslang Gambit is, all I know is how I play the game.Ricochet wrote:People should simply address what has been pointed at in regards to him being a Cylon and decide if it sounds genuine / plausible / etc. or not. You can stick with the Cain vibes just as much, if you like, but address actual suggestive statements made in the game first. My only gripe, as I've said before, is for it not to turn out to be yet another messy "Boomslang gambit".
Golden wrote:Everyone has been modkilled. Golden and Dom win!
OK, not really. But I think it's the only way I'm going to get a win this year around here.
Ok, that makes sense, it IS up to other people to verify these things for themselves if they want to agree with your suspicion. If there is any sort of "change" in my behaviour, then I guarantee it is in response to other players (like you) and how they changed toward me. I didn't change a single thing about my motives or goals or playstyle based on game events, because those things have not changed for me. I'm going to repost the quote above. The parts that are true will be golden-yellow, and the parts that are your supposed, unsupported opinion will be in orangey-red.S~V~S wrote:
Thought this was interesting.
Linki, I have given my train of thought multiple times,LC. This is how I operate and is how I have always operated. You made that post about the person with the second most votes, you seemed to be trying to get lynched,you seemed to not care about what happened or what you did. You were waiting for something to happen, your overall thread behavior & demeanor points to it. Then something did happen and your demeanor changed literally overnight.
All they need to do it read your ISO. I am not going to quote every post you made this game becasue the difference in pre Cain LC & post Cain LC is notable. They just have to read you.
I will do anything up to and including any possible public humiliating apology you like if you are NOT Cain. What surprises me is that more people don;t see it, your shift was so clear to me.
And I think it's misleading to say I "made that post about the person with the second most votes", because that post was about every role in the game. I made comments that I felt were relevant with every role that needed it. When I mentioned Helo, I said "This guy could surprise us one day when someone with second-most votes gets lynched. We should watch the second-most-voted as we place our votes... just in case." This isn't a role hint, this is a smart caution for players to be aware of when they are voting. You think that mentioning something to watch out for is supposed to be a role hint? No, it was not. And neither were any of the other roles I mentioned hints, whether I am one of them or not.I have given my train of thought multiple times,LC. This is how I operate and is how I have always operated. You made that post about the person with the second most votes, you seemed to be trying to get lynched,you seemed to not care about what happened or what you did. You were waiting for something to happen, your overall thread behavior & demeanor points to it. Then something did happen and your demeanor changed literally overnight.
Golden wrote:The president of the colonies has brought in a new law:
Revival of the Arts Act: As many of the arts of the colonies were lost in the attack, we must begin to add to our arts collection. Each day, one random player must post only in haiku.
Golden wrote:The president of the colonies has brought in a new law:
Revival of the Arts Act: As many of the arts of the colonies were lost in the attack, we must begin to add to our arts collection. Each day, one random player must post only in haiku.
Golden wrote:Hey guys and gals and little green things,
It's Adama again! ISN'T ADMIRAL CAIN JUST A GREAT LEADER *mutters something unintelligible, coughs*. I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE HER HERE NOW TO GUIDE US TOWARD THE FUTURE AND STUFF *you're not sure, but it sounds like Adama was armpit farting throughout that sentence*. She's even letting me take some time off to spend with the kids *prolonged spazzy screech*.
DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR.
So say we all
sig, there are twelve hundred reasons to lynch you, and none of them have anything to do with Scotty's death.sig wrote:Scotty was killed to frame me imo.
Either way I'm a cylon. There I claimed (even though I'm not)
I think whoever killed scotty is going to use it as a spring board to get a civ to push me I flip civ then they lynch the person who originally pushed my lynch.
I think LCis bad so I am a Cylon?Black Rock wrote:Golden wrote:The president of the colonies has brought in a new law:
Revival of the Arts Act: As many of the arts of the colonies were lost in the attack, we must begin to add to our arts collection. Each day, one random player must post only in haiku.![]()
Golden wrote:Hey guys and gals and little green things,
It's Adama again! ISN'T ADMIRAL CAIN JUST A GREAT LEADER *mutters something unintelligible, coughs*. I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE HER HERE NOW TO GUIDE US TOWARD THE FUTURE AND STUFF *you're not sure, but it sounds like Adama was armpit farting throughout that sentence*. She's even letting me take some time off to spend with the kids *prolonged spazzy screech*.
DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR.
So say we all![]()
So say we all...
So Adama did not watch the show... and is not SVS. SVS is cylon after all. That's what I take from this thread. I will likely vote for SVS today. Her interests do not seem to align with the humans, she can't be trusted. Which breaks my heart.
The first forty-five are iterations of how you need to just hush and nibble on some popcorn right now...shhh....sig wrote:I bet you can't name more then 50 Epi.
Well, duh.S~V~S wrote:Linki,Um, I read that in exactly the opposite way but OK
Well, first, no, I'm not bad, and second, BR didn't say anything about me being bad. Why are you instantly trying to alter what she said?S~V~S wrote:I think LCis bad so I am a Cylon?
Whoever he is, Adama's a male.Golden wrote:Hey guys and gals and little green things,
It's Adama again! ISN'T ADMIRAL CAIN JUST A GREAT LEADER *mutters something unintelligible, coughs*. I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE HER HERE NOW TO GUIDE US TOWARD THE FUTURE AND STUFF *you're not sure, but it sounds like Adama was armpit farting throughout that sentence*. She's even letting me take some time off to spend with the kids *prolonged spazzy screech*.
DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR.
So say we all
I thought he was saying allegiance to you is being a traitorLong Con wrote:Well, duh.S~V~S wrote:Linki,Um, I read that in exactly the opposite way but OKIt's open to interpretation. He's clearly irritated about Cain, but that "traitor" part is pretty adamant.
Well, first, no, I'm not bad, and second, BR didn't say anything about me being bad. Why are you instantly trying to alter what she said?S~V~S wrote:I think LCis bad so I am a Cylon?
Matt wrote:I know Polo posted a list, but just wanted to post my updated list... (they might be the same, probably are, derp)...
a2thezebra
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
OA
Ricotech
sig
Sokoth
Vompatti
9 players. Is that correct? Someone said 7 earlier, so I don't know if I'm missing something somewhere...
Of the names above, I am most curious of the red. Oh, and OA. She def not civ, right?
Daisy, Sokoth seems to be a friend of yours. What do you make of him seeing you claim Cylon but he won't do it himself? As a noob to Mafia, I'd assume he'd look to your lead in situations like this where the town is conflicted.
sig - I'm not down with anyone not claiming but I find you most curious because you have been legit asking others to claim but you won't do it yourself. Wtf?
Anyway, off to work. Peace
No. I didn't mention LC at all. It's your words and opinions. Once Epignosis was looked onto as a civvie your opinions have changed a lot. He is literally the only Cylon (listed under Cylons) I would trust. I would trust some humans that may have a dodgy history over Cylons. Their dodgy history always had the humans best interest at heart. I don't believe you do.S~V~S wrote:I think LCis bad so I am a Cylon?Black Rock wrote:Golden wrote:The president of the colonies has brought in a new law:
Revival of the Arts Act: As many of the arts of the colonies were lost in the attack, we must begin to add to our arts collection. Each day, one random player must post only in haiku.![]()
Golden wrote:Hey guys and gals and little green things,
It's Adama again! ISN'T ADMIRAL CAIN JUST A GREAT LEADER *mutters something unintelligible, coughs*. I'M SO HAPPY WE HAVE HER HERE NOW TO GUIDE US TOWARD THE FUTURE AND STUFF *you're not sure, but it sounds like Adama was armpit farting throughout that sentence*. She's even letting me take some time off to spend with the kids *prolonged spazzy screech*.
DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR. DON'T BE A TRAITOR.
So say we all![]()
So say we all...
So Adama did not watch the show... and is not SVS. SVS is cylon after all. That's what I take from this thread. I will likely vote for SVS today. Her interests do not seem to align with the humans, she can't be trusted. Which breaks my heart.
Do you not suspect Sig?Dex wrote:So Say We All!
LC, or one of the Suspicious Seven: Zebra, Glorfindel, Vompati, Obscure, Rico, Sok, or Wilgy.
I am also suspicious of Glorfindel and Wilgy. If D'Faraday replacement keeps posting, I can re-evaluate that read. I'd be willing to give him that chance.Silverwolf wrote: My top suspects are sig, Long Con, D'Faraday-replacement.
I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
I am much too much with the rye and coke tonight. Explain this further.Epignosis wrote:Black Rock, I'd say the burden of proof is on you right now, so I'm listening.
No actually I do not. Essentially your saying that if everyone does not Claim they are a Cylon then anyone at any point can just drop that rule to keep from being killed off. I don't see it that way. The rule was that if you claim it you can only claim it once and use the immunity that time. It's not continual. The only people who can use it is the people who have not claimed it regardless if they are or are not a cylon. So I still do not see how making a claim such as this helps the whole. I do not see your logic. Unless I'm wrong and the law stays active as long as one of us does not claim it and it can be used whenever... Which is it?Polo wrote:SokothQultuq, the benefits of everyone claiming cylon is overturning the efficiency of the Cylon Amnesty Act. Do you want Cylons to enjoy immunity? If you do, then don't claim Cylon. If you want them to be lynchable, then claim Cylon. Do you understand the logic behind this?
Do you not suspect Sig?Dex wrote:So Say We All!
LC, or one of the Suspicious Seven: Zebra, Glorfindel, Vompati, Obscure, Rico, Sok, or Wilgy.
I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.