The Syndicate

I'm voting Long Con and I encourage others to join me and I'm putting my faith in the strength of the Scotty town read. Scotty interactions with Mac make zero fucking sense coming from scum and the way his paranoia evolved and abated is something that I don't think scum is able to fake.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:14 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:05 pm I’m not the 3P and I have no interest in yeeting the 3P right now.

that seems like exactly what you'd say if you were the 3p AND were interested in yeeting the 3p

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:02 pm If that peek isn’t a joke or reaction test, there’s logically one wolf in Scotty/LC so I should be looking there, especially since my read on LC has been pretty nebulous.

What the hell kind of post is this?


If that peek isn't a joke, then there's 1 wolf in Scotty & LC alright, and it's Scotty.

I mean....I guess in 9 vs 4 vs 1, yeah, wolves don’t fake a red.

I think I’m in a 15ish player 3 misyeets + extra kills = lylo kinda mentality.

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:23 pm Daisy, Jack and Radish

All 3 mafia

Are you watching champs? You should stop by specchat and make some bets!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:37 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:02 pm If that peek isn’t a joke or reaction test, there’s logically one wolf in Scotty/LC so I should be looking there, especially since my read on LC has been pretty nebulous.

What the hell kind of post is this?


If that peek isn't a joke, then there's 1 wolf in Scotty & LC alright, and it's Scotty.

I mean....I guess in 9 vs 4 vs 1, yeah, wolves don’t fake a red.

I think I’m in a 15ish player 3 misyeets + extra kills = lylo kinda mentality.

Why not?

Long Con as scum here gets a mislynch on someone that wouldn't be mislynched otherwise. He pays for it tomorrow, sure, but LC likely isn't going to be the end gaming wolf here IMO.

Do you really think that Scotty is scum who distanced with Mac and the end of the day?

I will take 1 to 1 wolf trades at this stage of the game.

It’s not ideal but I’ll take it.

Probably.

I haven’t seriously looked at Scotty because he’s felt pretty town to me but a bunch of my reads have sucked.

Someone drop me a bullet point list of developments since N3 please and thanks?

Saw the flips and skipped ahead to current page.

Mac scum makes sense to the game state. I was mulling over it last round.

Tim scum also makes sense to the same game state.

(Above and any future reads are from a D3 mindset. I continue not to read anything.)

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:26 pm Hey, I got a red check on Scotty.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Hey what the actual fuck

Trying to think of any logical explanation for LC being town in this situation. It’s tough, team, it’s tough.

Because I can prove I’m town, but at the end of the day I don’t want to have to.

Scum LC making a fake red check at this point in the game to get me ML’d? Ballsy. Not unheard of, but ballsy. And I read you as a town, LC! Whyyy

Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:00 am I'm voting Long Con and I encourage others to join me and I'm putting my faith in the strength of the Scotty town read. Scotty interactions with Mac make zero fucking sense coming from scum and the way his paranoia evolved and abated is something that I don't think scum is able to fake.

You’re my favorite type of Dorito

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:29 pm Okay, my ride's here...Long Con...be convincing please. Back later.

Lol

Why do I feel like this timing worked out such that Tim is under heat and he needs someone else to come distract?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:15 pm mf Tony’s off the poll again.

Someone explain to me how that can be a town role again?

i'm clearly on the poll

may or may not have forgotten to submit an action

Thanks. The poll was reset after this post.

Also nice to be off the poll without any consequence for a day, eh?

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:52 pm my question(s)

molag bal and molag balls champion and the weilder of the mace artifact is supposed to be the 3rd party and scum right?

I’m no expert on shrine or artifact affiliations but this makes the most sense from a game setup. There are secrets and implications with that mace that make me feel like it gets a NK every so often...as Gav keeps calling the “SK”...which probably aligns with the mysterious 3P.

Hmmm...I return on a string of six straight Scotty posts...

None of which are "LC, ya got me."

Sad face.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:29 pm Okay, my ride's here...Long Con...be convincing please. Back later.

Lol

Why do I feel like this timing worked out such that Tim is under heat and he needs someone else to come distract?

Don't flatter either one of us. The wolf team isn't likely to sac someone to "save" me if I am a wolf. And you are barking up the wrong tree obviously enough that there would be no call for such a reaction anyway. Even with mad Jack for a wingman I don't think you can put me over.

Also yep Mac was pretty much a Rolecop.
I knew he checked Tim as SK being Consig, I just knew!

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:57 am Trying to think of any logical explanation for LC being town in this situation. It’s tough, team, it’s tough.

Because I can prove I’m town, but at the end of the day I don’t want to have to.

Scum LC making a fake red check at this point in the game to get me ML’d? Ballsy. Not unheard of, but ballsy. And I read you as a town, LC! Whyyy

There could be a frame shrine or something.
Do we know what every shrine does?

@Timsup2gettinserious
Stab within Daisy, Radish or Jack tonight please.
They Scum.
Also you could frame me as SK if you do so do it and kill some mafia for me!

Thanks for killing Mac though Tim.
I’ll make sure no one else pressures you, especially those 3 other Mafia I listed.

Can’t wait to see you in MYLO.
I’ll make sure to thank you for killing all the mafia before I convince others to vote you off!

I genuinely so not know what to make of you Gavial.

So my two most trusted town reads...one claims a red check on the other.

I should not have come back.

I claim a smexy check!

Long Con/Mac selections:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 11:18 am

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 1:15 am how come syn and tim are voting out Marmot. and so is qwags and Made.

and iirc several say made and qwags are real sus. but like tim and syn are real townie.

how come several people don't like Enrique and think he is mafia but not voting him. and nacho, who is voting him is supposed to be sus?

how come tim thinks the voting looks good? what about the voting looks good?

This attitude is similar to my current view of the game. I'm happy to have a few townreads, but I haven't figured out who I think is bad yet. I feel like a lot of posts aren't that alignment-readable maybe... or maybe I skimmed through too much while tired. I think of Qwags for instance, and people loling and saying "Who is Quags?" comes to mind, or how about Mac's bunch of GIFs and votes without explanation. I think he has a whole team of suspects, from that post where he voted 5 players at once. I don't know why, I don't know if he's joking around or if he's just scum and wants to muddy the waters while relaxing in GIF-ville. I do think he could do a better job communicating and that he might not be posting in good faith.

Jack's rhymes are sick, but his obsession with Tim doesn't work for me at all. He just calls everything Tim says a lie, whoop-de-doo, but why?

This is a post that I think I remember seeing and nodding my head along with, and would normally gloss over, but in context of LC being a teammate, it puts just enough pressure where he puts doubt on Mac without calling him bad. I’ve done this as town to reads, but he does leave that out of “joking around” and “he could do a better job”. It comes off as an HR readjustment.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:40 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:39 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:36 pm Ahhhh...LongCon...right when we need a very cool head that is also heavily town readable. This gets better and better.

Hey! I'm two pages behind, but I really want to tie it up three ways right now. I hope that's ok. [VOTE: qwags] aubergine

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

LOL you must have a humourous aspect implicit in your insanity. Good one!

Note that Mac went on an epileptic voting frenzy at this point, voting like 9 different people in the scope of 5 minutes, lingering not long on LC.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 7:15 pm Cop check TSP
Vigi Flanders
Obviously any doctors need to rand between Kza and Syn

I have no issue with this outlook. I don't really know if Flanders is bad but it would keep us from having to sort him tomorrow.

Yessss yessss kill the Flanders, good idea Mac.

Yeah, aside from poking the bear on D2, LC had almost no other interactions with Mac, especially in D3, where he provided vague mentionings of mafia going to a particular shrine- of which nothing was resolved.

LC very likely w/w with Mac. I still don’t understand the strategy of doing this fake red check NOW unless wolves are scared I’m barking up their den

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:15 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:29 pm Okay, my ride's here...Long Con...be convincing please. Back later.

Lol

Why do I feel like this timing worked out such that Tim is under heat and he needs someone else to come distract?

Don't flatter either one of us. The wolf team isn't likely to sac someone to "save" me if I am a wolf. And you are barking up the wrong tree obviously enough that there would be no call for such a reaction anyway. Even with mad Jack for a wingman I don't think you can put me over.

Put yourself in scum LC’ shoes then. What does he benefit from slandering me at this juncture of the game? We’re still 11 strong against 4/5.

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:16 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:57 am Trying to think of any logical explanation for LC being town in this situation. It’s tough, team, it’s tough.

Because I can prove I’m town, but at the end of the day I don’t want to have to.

Scum LC making a fake red check at this point in the game to get me ML’d? Ballsy. Not unheard of, but ballsy. And I read you as a town, LC! Whyyy

There could be a frame shrine or something.
Do we know what every shrine does?

Well no, and I think some shrines probably have unique powers for roles.

I’m acknowledging the chance that there is a frame shrine. Does that sound like a town shrine to use tho?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:20 am I genuinely so not know what to make of you Gavial.

You should make shashimi of him, since apparently you are the SK NO IFS ANDS OR BUTTS

No u
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:03 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:33 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 7:15 pm mf Tony’s off the poll again.

Someone explain to me how that can be a town role again?

i'm clearly on the poll

may or may not have forgotten to submit an action

Thanks. The poll was reset after this post.

Also nice to be off the poll without any consequence for a day, eh?

I think it spews me town

Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 12:41 am Do you really think that Scotty is scum who distanced with Mac and the end of the day?

I think arbitrarily the bigger hurdle is the way he sheeted Mac on Tim

Somehow Nacho is collecting himself partner equity with every player in the game right now

Mac tends to spew a lot but in like a weird way so you never feel /good/ about reading into Mac spew

Has anyone claimed /any/ of the kills

SK killed mac and wolves killed the other two

That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

Yeah ngl I struggle to believe LC.

TSP is doing that thing where he's TSP. That's good.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:36 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:15 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:02 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 9:29 pm Okay, my ride's here...Long Con...be convincing please. Back later.

Lol

Why do I feel like this timing worked out such that Tim is under heat and he needs someone else to come distract?

Don't flatter either one of us. The wolf team isn't likely to sac someone to "save" me if I am a wolf. And you are barking up the wrong tree obviously enough that there would be no call for such a reaction anyway. Even with mad Jack for a wingman I don't think you can put me over.

Put yourself in scum LC’ shoes then. What does he benefit from slandering me at this juncture of the game? We’re still 11 strong against 4/5.

I am considering an odd angle on the game that might explain a wolf Long Con doing this...but to get from "yes this makes a twisted kind of sense if I assume certain things about the setup" to "okay yeah LongCon is woofin' it here" requires me to put 100% faith in one assumption and just take it as fact...and that is a painful level of trust.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Marmot is not the key to resolving this game at this time, period...the elephant has seized control of the room.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:52 am That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

We need to quit talking about the SK...that apparently takes nights off. Gav calling me the 3P is mostly funny, but people who might be taken seriously, like you, need to consider that the wolves have two artifacts now. That means they have the vote power aspect, plus a bonus for having two. The Mace of Molag Ball is theoretically powerful enough to make a single player into a viable faction. Does this sound like something we really want the wolves to get hold of? Along with whatever added bonus yet another artifact gets them?

Stop talking about artifacts and third parties.

Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:27 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:52 am That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.

Didn't notice that before but thinks it adds to the likelihood of Long Con pulling a long Con here - his shrine related antics make a hell of a lot more sense if he was actually digging for artifact info via Mac power.

Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:50 am

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:27 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 1:52 am That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.

Didn't notice that before but thinks it adds to the likelihood of Long Con pulling a long Con here - his shrine related antics make a hell of a lot more sense if he was actually digging for artifact info via Mac power.

Yeah.

Or Scotty is just a wolf.

Kza got two checks in two nights. Is it far fetched that another check went out? No it is not.

I've read Long Con as town even longer than i have read Scotty as town. I am not really ready to jump either way here.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:01 am TSP is doing that thing where he's TSP. That's good.

.......
Why do people think this is town.
Especially TSP.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:15 am [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Marmot is not the key to resolving this game at this time, period...the elephant has seized control of the room.

By elephant you mean SK.
And thank you SK now vote Radish with me!
Then kill Daisy during the night please and thank you!

Gavial wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 3:03 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 2:01 am TSP is doing that thing where he's TSP. That's good.

.......
Why do people think this is town.
Especially TSP.

Start a wagon on me.

Mac was a good shot.

I'm currently here, and I'll get to responding to people's notifs.