Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]

[Boquise]

I’ve answered your questions.

No, you have not.
Why does not Lucy/Creature/Alison make sense?

[fingersplints]

I’ve answered your questions.

No, you have not.
Why does not Lucy/Creature/Alison make sense?

I have.

I never said Lucy/Creature/Alison doesn’t make sense. I said your POE, as listed in the post below of Lucy/creature/Alison/me doesn’t make sense. You said after my comment if you remove me.

I am only yeeting between Creature/Alison/Lucy/Fingers today

[Boquise]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

[Boquise]

I’ve answered your questions.

No, you have not.
Why does not Lucy/Creature/Alison make sense?

I have.

I never said Lucy/Creature/Alison doesn’t make sense. I said your POE, as listed in the post below of Lucy/creature/Alison/me doesn’t make sense. You said after my comment if you remove me.

I am only yeeting between Creature/Alison/Lucy/Fingers today

okay i will just list you as the archetype and move on.

[Boquise]

creature ended on Ender D1 and D2 but not D3, the day Ender flipped
hmmm

[Boquise]

if lucy is wolf, it indicates that fingers is town due to the votes of eod2.

[Boquise]

i dont think jjj would use such aggressive tone towards me if he was a wolf tbh

[Boquise]

both alison and fingers are very insistent that their interaction means stuff. Alison thinks that that should be a point in her favour, and fingers thinks that makes them unaligned - i am not ready to leave that team world.

However the team is not Alison/Fingers/Lucy.

[Boquise]

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

i need to sleep
if creature comes on before eod, could someone force him to answer my tags tbh

[JaggedJimmyJay]

can barely look at the thread right now folks, so bear with me

@ me with critical matters or I may not see them

still considering my vote

[Boquise]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

@JaggedJimmyJay do you think all wolves piled on falcon or are some off wagon?
considering it is a t vs t top wagon thing
(frankly the only non flipped player is marmot there)

[NateTheLesser]

Honestly, game state should be easy. Remove 4 people from the poe and we have a wolf team

That's exactly it. If I trust my gut that you/Jay are town, I'm halfway there AND you're both strong players. Are either of you good enough to burn me on that? Sure. But at least for today I'd rather solve from that position.

mafia creates such a game state by leaving inactive townies alive, but can you give me more of an argument for why you boq and jjj are town?

If you read back to earlier this morning you'll see why I think they're town, mostly based on their interactions yesterday. And you can tell me what you think of it. You thought I could be w/w with Ender, does Ender flipping town change your read of me?

[Boquise]

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

meh

[NateTheLesser]

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

meh

Thoughts on Lucy vs Alison if you're still awake? Seems like Alison has been in a lot of POEs.

[robyn]

lucy what are you doing rn

dealing with progenitors of annoying kids

[robyn]

Honestly, game state should be easy. Remove 4 people from the poe and we have a wolf team

That's exactly it. If I trust my gut that you/Jay are town, I'm halfway there AND you're both strong players. Are either of you good enough to burn me on that? Sure. But at least for today I'd rather solve from that position.

mafia creates such a game state by leaving inactive townies alive, but can you give me more of an argument for why you boq and jjj are town?

If you read back to earlier this morning you'll see why I think they're town, mostly based on their interactions yesterday. And you can tell me what you think of it. You thought I could be w/w with Ender, does Ender flipping town change your read of me?

makes you come off as unaligned, at this stage it’s a town read

[Marmot]

Stuck at work. Won't be around before deadline

Vote Jay

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine


Wagons wayy too stagnated

I can get behind a lucy wagon

[VOTE: lucy ] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also Page 100, congrats guys

[NateTheLesser]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

I mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?

[NateTheLesser]

Stuck at work. Won't be around before deadline

Vote Jay

If you have a minute, can you give me the cliff's notes on why you think Jay is lock wolf today when you had him as likely town yesterday?

[NateTheLesser]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?

I never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audacious

[NateTheLesser]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

I mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?

I've been trying to build a town core based on reading Boq/Jay's interactions yesterday as town/town. So thoughts on that general idea would be good.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

I mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?

I've been trying to build a town core based on reading Boq/Jay's interactions yesterday as town/town. So thoughts on that general idea would be good.

Can you give me a post to start reading from and I will go from there and give you my thoughts? Or I can just go back and pick at random

[NateTheLesser]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

I mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?

I've been trying to build a town core based on reading Boq/Jay's interactions yesterday as town/town. So thoughts on that general idea would be good.

Can you give me a post to start reading from and I will go from there and give you my thoughts? Or I can just go back and pick at random

Yeah sure, hold on.

[NateTheLesser]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?

I never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audacious

Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?

[RondoDimBuckle]

chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?

I never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audacious

Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?

But she was still on the suspicion ranking thing and I dont know why but Boq's ability to meme/play the game seriously at the same time speaks to me. I think GTH right now I think he is town. I like how he has reacted to a lot of my probing and since he is a champs dude he knows his shit better than I do. Plus I have been suspicious of Lucy all game, every interaction that could have gone somewhere just spiraled into weirdness. I really dont feel good about her slot.

[NateTheLesser]

@RondoDimBuckle
Here's the nugget of it viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4800#p932651
And then starting here-ish viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4850#p932741

[NateTheLesser]

You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?

I never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audacious

Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?

But she was still on the suspicion ranking thing and I dont know why but Boq's ability to meme/play the game seriously at the same time speaks to me. I think GTH right now I think he is town. I like how he has reacted to a lot of my probing and since he is a champs dude he knows his shit better than I do. Plus I have been suspicious of Lucy all game, every interaction that could have gone somewhere just spiraled into weirdness. I really dont feel good about her slot.

Who are you most confident is town, besides Boq? The general idea is that if you're town, and you can find 4 other town, the rest is a winning POE. And we might not agree but maybe there's overlap. Boq was basically the only one around to talk through that with all morning.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo

Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.

I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.

@JaggedJimmyJay do you think all wolves piled on falcon or are some off wagon?
considering it is a t vs t top wagon thing
(frankly the only non flipped player is marmot there)

It would surprise me mildly though not “shock” me if all three mafia voted falcon when not numerically necessary. GTH no

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@fingersplints @Boquise are y’all still around

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself

[NateTheLesser]

My Marmot vote isn't realistically doing anything so I'll do this.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

What's your idea? And are you caught up?

Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy

Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?

I never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audacious

Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?

But she was still on the suspicion ranking thing and I dont know why but Boq's ability to meme/play the game seriously at the same time speaks to me. I think GTH right now I think he is town. I like how he has reacted to a lot of my probing and since he is a champs dude he knows his shit better than I do. Plus I have been suspicious of Lucy all game, every interaction that could have gone somewhere just spiraled into weirdness. I really dont feel good about her slot.

Who are you most confident is town, besides Boq? The general idea is that if you're town, and you can find 4 other town, the rest is a winning POE. And we might not agree but maybe there's overlap. Boq was basically the only one around to talk through that with all morning.

Ill be honest and Ender knows this. Finding town is the weakest part of my game. I tinfoil like Crazy, I want to be perfect and have a pure town core so I dont admit anyone unless I am sure and I dont know anyone here half as well as I want to. Thats why the Boq read isnt a difinitive "he's town" its a GTH hedgy pos. Like I was with Dizzy and Mac and Ender. I was pretty sure they were town but not certain. So asking me to find 4 other town is a really difficult task. That said if I dont try I wont get better. Focusing more on your case than finding town at the moment so pending that since you wanted that first

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself

Sell me, folks

Still very difficult to be here atm

[NateTheLesser]

If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself

The Creature/Fingersplints Boq wagon doesn't inspire confidence (plus I think he's town).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@lucy @Alison @Marmot justify parking on me

[RondoDimBuckle]

If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself

The Creature/Fingersplints Boq wagon doesn't inspire confidence (plus I think he's town).

If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself

Sell me, folks

Still very difficult to be here atm

Im not voting Boq today possibly ever

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nate, Rondo please talk to me about lucy

[RondoDimBuckle]

Nate, Rondo please talk to me about lucy

I already did above

[RondoDimBuckle]

@RondoDimBuckle
Here's the nugget of it viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4800#p932651
And then starting here-ish viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4850#p932741

Oh yeah, this is a tl;dr post I skimmed because I wanted to catch up before EOD but I actually have time this time to go back and read

Why town reading boq and jay specifically? How does yesterday clear them in your mind?

Lucy said she would get involved when we had more info, we have 100 pages of info and I have yet to see a proper case by her

I dont really want to talk about slots that arent the five so I will leave finger/creature alone for now.

So you are saying Marmot/Alison/Myself and one of Finger/Creature are wolf?

I keep having to force myself to go back and read the creature/finger stuff. ughhhh yeah I dont really have anything to say about that. I thought this was going to be about Boq/JJJ?

===========================

So you are saying that the wolf kill points to Boq/Alison/JJJ but it could just be wolf theater?

Cappu? Oh another game

Wait so you are saying Boq is a wolf?

viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4850#p932744

I can kinda see what you are saying here, I did kinda just move past your posts. My bad

viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4850#p932752
So this is calling Marmot town?

viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4900#p932757
I could see a world where JJJ/Boq are town but if I had to choose between the two at this point its JJJ I am voting for and if boq is the wolf this game state is pretty fucked anyway.

[RondoDimBuckle]

And I'm not really considering a world where you/Jay are w/w. I think your insistence of a wolf in you/Alison/Jay would be frankly insane if that was a 2/3. (Which also rules out you/Alison as teamed in my mind)

I send early by habit, so you are saying none of Boq/Alison/JJJ are wolf?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I was about to ask you to help me sort Marmot vs Lucy :P

I posted the beginnings of a case earlier, mostly around Marmot's interactions yesterday with Dizzy and the progression of his Jay read. I recall that the Dizzy interaction was something you commented when it happened yesterday, so I'm wondering how you feel about it today. I'm also looking forward to Marmot responding to it.

Despite whatever misgivings I have, if Marmot's town I'd much rather find that before EOD and keep him alive. And if he's town, that would mean bumping Lucy or Fingersplints into my POE. I worry about having so many low posters in my POE, but I'm not sure how to get around that. Another thing we'd have to reckon with is Marmot's townreads of Creature/Fingersplints.

as much as I hate to say it, finger did post something I liked but I didnt want to give her the satisfaction of saying it but I guess we are at the point where every little thing matters let me go find it.

I still think Creature's town tbh. I review two of his scum games and two of his town games in the last year, and his posting is far more in line with his town games. Specifically his paranoid complaints about mis-elimming at EOD. There's just none of that in his scum games, and quite a bit in his town games.

Town

Pandas vs Trash Pandas
RPG Mafia

Scum

Rings of Power
Fall of Númenor



Creature voters, I'm curious if you agree with this take.

@fingersplints @RondoDimBuckle @NateTheLesser

I just realised I didn't reply to this @ at best I will read when I get home and at worst I won't read it. I really don't like reading other games. This game is the only one that matters right now. If you get what I mean. Anything else is a form of wifom. But if its short I might give it a go later

I feel the same as this. I sometimes look at another game quick but reading four games probably won’t happen for me. I actually even played one of those games and I don’t remember if creature was the same.

I have some reservations about my past Creature suspicion based on recent tone, so if I get a chance I will

But I am very unhappy that she is voting Boq

[NateTheLesser]

Nate, Rondo please talk to me about lucy

Town: Seemed comfortable in the early game. Activity and tone was a lot like her qualifier. Votes don't seem to have much agenda (8th vote for Falcon when he was a sure thing, Ender and then Sleep d2, moved from you to Ender close to EOD yesterday). Occasional towny perspective things like this:

If Ender is w, I'm pretty sure Nate is w too

didn't I think this 2 days ago

Wolf: Activity has dropped off (which it did in her quali in the midgame to be fair). Rarely taken stances of any kind unless pressed. Just not much to really pull her completely out of POE.

[RondoDimBuckle]

this game is hideous, i couldn’t look at it for 2 days, and i hop on now when people are first discussing me lmfao, terrible timing

Where is the game analysis you promised day 2?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am only yeeting between Creature/Alison/Lucy/Fingers today

One of them is 100% town (I realised I didn't do math good before)

There must be mafia inside there because I don't think 100% of scum is between Nate/Marmot/JJJ/Rondo

i’ll vote for marmot + other 3

Ok now I am really happy to be on Lucy