Re: Halvøsen Ridge [DAY 4]
Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:10 pm
No, you have not.
Why does not Lucy/Creature/Alison make sense?
Why does not Lucy/Creature/Alison make sense?
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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No, you have not.
I have.
chances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
okay i will just list you as the archetype and move on.fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:16 pmI have.
I never said Lucy/Creature/Alison doesn’t make sense. I said your POE, as listed in the post below of Lucy/creature/Alison/me doesn’t make sense. You said after my comment if you remove me.
@JaggedJimmyJay do you think all wolves piled on falcon or are some off wagon?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
If you read back to earlier this morning you'll see why I think they're town, mostly based on their interactions yesterday. And you can tell me what you think of it. You thought I could be w/w with Ender, does Ender flipping town change your read of me?lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:43 pmmafia creates such a game state by leaving inactive townies alive, but can you give me more of an argument for why you boq and jjj are town?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:16 pmThat's exactly it. If I trust my gut that you/Jay are town, I'm halfway there AND you're both strong players. Are either of you good enough to burn me on that? Sure. But at least for today I'd rather solve from that position.
makes you come off as unaligned, at this stage it’s a town readNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:39 pmIf you read back to earlier this morning you'll see why I think they're town, mostly based on their interactions yesterday. And you can tell me what you think of it. You thought I could be w/w with Ender, does Ender flipping town change your read of me?lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:43 pmmafia creates such a game state by leaving inactive townies alive, but can you give me more of an argument for why you boq and jjj are town?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:16 pmThat's exactly it. If I trust my gut that you/Jay are town, I'm halfway there AND you're both strong players. Are either of you good enough to burn me on that? Sure. But at least for today I'd rather solve from that position.
You just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
What's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
Reassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
I mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:56 pmReassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy
I never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audaciousNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:56 pmReassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy
Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:57 pmI mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
Can you give me a post to start reading from and I will go from there and give you my thoughts? Or I can just go back and pick at randomNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:57 pmI mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
I've been trying to build a town core based on reading Boq/Jay's interactions yesterday as town/town. So thoughts on that general idea would be good.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:13 pmCan you give me a post to start reading from and I will go from there and give you my thoughts? Or I can just go back and pick at randomNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:57 pmI mean I kinda skimmed mostly. was there anything you wanted me to answer?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
I've been trying to build a town core based on reading Boq/Jay's interactions yesterday as town/town. So thoughts on that general idea would be good.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pmI never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audaciousNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:56 pmReassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:35 pmYou just gave me an idea. It might not pan out.Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:17 pmchances that the ender wagon is completely pure?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy
Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?
But she was still on the suspicion ranking thing and I dont know why but Boq's ability to meme/play the game seriously at the same time speaks to me. I think GTH right now I think he is town. I like how he has reacted to a lot of my probing and since he is a champs dude he knows his shit better than I do. Plus I have been suspicious of Lucy all game, every interaction that could have gone somewhere just spiraled into weirdness. I really dont feel good about her slot.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:16 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pmI never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audaciousNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:56 pmReassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:53 pmWhat's your idea? And are you caught up?
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy
Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?
Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?
Who are you most confident is town, besides Boq? The general idea is that if you're town, and you can find 4 other town, the rest is a winning POE. And we might not agree but maybe there's overlap. Boq was basically the only one around to talk through that with all morning.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:19 pmBut she was still on the suspicion ranking thing and I dont know why but Boq's ability to meme/play the game seriously at the same time speaks to me. I think GTH right now I think he is town. I like how he has reacted to a lot of my probing and since he is a champs dude he knows his shit better than I do. Plus I have been suspicious of Lucy all game, every interaction that could have gone somewhere just spiraled into weirdness. I really dont feel good about her slot.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:16 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pmI never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audaciousNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:56 pmReassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy
Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?
Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?
It would surprise me mildly though not “shock” me if all three mafia voted falcon when not numerically necessary. GTH noBoquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:33 pm@JaggedJimmyJay do you think all wolves piled on falcon or are some off wagon?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 2:35 pm Falcon - 8 - Nate, Jimmay, Finger, Dizzy, Ender, Mac, Alison, Lucy
Ender - 3 - Creature, Marmot, Wilgy
Marmot - 2 - Boq, Falcon
Wilgy - 1 - Sean
Dizzy - 1 - Rondo
Though weirder things have happened, it would surprise me if all mafia were on the Falcon wagon.
Creature, Marmot, Boq and Rondo are the ones alive who were off it.
I also wouldn't be surprised if none of the votes hit mafia, but that's a shrug at this point.
considering it is a t vs t top wagon thing
(frankly the only non flipped player is marmot there)
Ill be honest and Ender knows this. Finding town is the weakest part of my game. I tinfoil like Crazy, I want to be perfect and have a pure town core so I dont admit anyone unless I am sure and I dont know anyone here half as well as I want to. Thats why the Boq read isnt a difinitive "he's town" its a GTH hedgy pos. Like I was with Dizzy and Mac and Ender. I was pretty sure they were town but not certain. So asking me to find 4 other town is a really difficult task. That said if I dont try I wont get better. Focusing more on your case than finding town at the moment so pending that since you wanted that firstNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:27 pmWho are you most confident is town, besides Boq? The general idea is that if you're town, and you can find 4 other town, the rest is a winning POE. And we might not agree but maybe there's overlap. Boq was basically the only one around to talk through that with all morning.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:19 pmBut she was still on the suspicion ranking thing and I dont know why but Boq's ability to meme/play the game seriously at the same time speaks to me. I think GTH right now I think he is town. I like how he has reacted to a lot of my probing and since he is a champs dude he knows his shit better than I do. Plus I have been suspicious of Lucy all game, every interaction that could have gone somewhere just spiraled into weirdness. I really dont feel good about her slot.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:16 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pmI never said it was a GOOD idea. Just that its something I could see myself doing because its so audaciousNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pmRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:56 pmReassessing from a 3 wolves on falcon point of view.
Nate/JJJ/Finger/Alison/Lucy
Why would all 3 wolves be on Falcon?
Why Lucy of that group? Wasn't she at +1.5 in your suspicion ranking thingy?
Sell me, folksJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:28 pm If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself
The Creature/Fingersplints Boq wagon doesn't inspire confidence (plus I think he's town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:28 pm If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:30 pmThe Creature/Fingersplints Boq wagon doesn't inspire confidence (plus I think he's town).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:28 pm If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself
Im not voting Boq today possibly everJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:30 pmSell me, folksJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:28 pm If our euro friends went to sleep then it may only be possible to consolidate votes on lucy or Boq himself
Still very difficult to be here atm
I already did above
Oh yeah, this is a tl;dr post I skimmed because I wanted to catch up before EOD but I actually have time this time to go back and readNateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:20 pm @RondoDimBuckle
Here's the nugget of it viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4800#p932651
And then starting here-ish viewtopic.php?t=2389&start=4850#p932741
I send early by habit, so you are saying none of Boq/Alison/JJJ are wolf?NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:20 pm And I'm not really considering a world where you/Jay are w/w. I think your insistence of a wolf in you/Alison/Jay would be frankly insane if that was a 2/3. (Which also rules out you/Alison as teamed in my mind)
as much as I hate to say it, finger did post something I liked but I didnt want to give her the satisfaction of saying it but I guess we are at the point where every little thing matters let me go find it.NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:35 pm I was about to ask you to help me sort Marmot vs Lucy :P
I posted the beginnings of a case earlier, mostly around Marmot's interactions yesterday with Dizzy and the progression of his Jay read. I recall that the Dizzy interaction was something you commented when it happened yesterday, so I'm wondering how you feel about it today. I'm also looking forward to Marmot responding to it.
Despite whatever misgivings I have, if Marmot's town I'd much rather find that before EOD and keep him alive. And if he's town, that would mean bumping Lucy or Fingersplints into my POE. I worry about having so many low posters in my POE, but I'm not sure how to get around that. Another thing we'd have to reckon with is Marmot's townreads of Creature/Fingersplints.
But I am very unhappy that she is voting Boqfingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:33 amI feel the same as this. I sometimes look at another game quick but reading four games probably won’t happen for me. I actually even played one of those games and I don’t remember if creature was the same.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:48 amI just realised I didn't reply to this @ at best I will read when I get home and at worst I won't read it. I really don't like reading other games. This game is the only one that matters right now. If you get what I mean. Anything else is a form of wifom. But if its short I might give it a go laterMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:20 pmMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:13 pm I still think Creature's town tbh. I review two of his scum games and two of his town games in the last year, and his posting is far more in line with his town games. Specifically his paranoid complaints about mis-elimming at EOD. There's just none of that in his scum games, and quite a bit in his town games.
Town
Pandas vs Trash Pandas
RPG Mafia
Scum
Rings of Power
Fall of Númenor
Creature voters, I'm curious if you agree with this take.
@fingersplints @RondoDimBuckle @NateTheLesser
I have some reservations about my past Creature suspicion based on recent tone, so if I get a chance I will
Town: Seemed comfortable in the early game. Activity and tone was a lot like her qualifier. Votes don't seem to have much agenda (8th vote for Falcon when he was a sure thing, Ender and then Sleep d2, moved from you to Ender close to EOD yesterday). Occasional towny perspective things like this:
Wolf: Activity has dropped off (which it did in her quali in the midgame to be fair). Rarely taken stances of any kind unless pressed. Just not much to really pull her completely out of POE.