Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:46 pm
I'm watching community while playing a community game. Communityception
so?
The Syndicate
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Community Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:47 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:48 pm
yay, sabie. i might do a community marathon this weekend too. i miss the gang.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:48 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:49 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:52 pm
Oh, I thought that was peripheral. k
My thoughts: many players, particularly of the older eras of The Syndicate, haven't been raised in the respond-to-everything firestorm of JJJ or dunya Mafia. I would anticipate a pointed response to suspicions, but not necessarily to "I think X is good". It depends upon the player. I don't think less of sabie for the delay.
My thoughts: many players, particularly of the older eras of The Syndicate, haven't been raised in the respond-to-everything firestorm of JJJ or dunya Mafia. I would anticipate a pointed response to suspicions, but not necessarily to "I think X is good". It depends upon the player. I don't think less of sabie for the delay.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:54 pm
this response is a better look for you; it doesn't alter my opinion on the shadiness of replying to everyone but you in the thread though. i'll consider it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:52 pm Oh, I thought that was peripheral. k
My thoughts: many players, particularly of the older eras of The Syndicate, haven't been raised in the respond-to-everything firestorm of JJJ or dunya Mafia. I would anticipate a pointed response to suspicions, but not necessarily to "I think X is good". It depends upon the player. I don't think less of sabie for the delay.
anyway, i'm out, night night gang!
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm
[mention]sabie12[/mention], any impressions of dunya, Epi, or myself (or anyone else that may have shimmied in a post)?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm
G'night dunya
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:00 pm
I will set this thread on fire.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:16 pm
I'm not really a worker bee type.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:18 pm
Maaaaaan I don't know my brain hurts I didn't know there was a quiz on the first day. Wait it's the zero day...or is it zeroth day?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm @sabie12, any impressions of dunya, Epi, or myself (or anyone else that may have shimmied in a post)?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:39 pm
Show me the confideance to make a judgment.sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:18 pmMaaaaaan I don't know my brain hurts I didn't know there was a quiz on the first day. Wait it's the zero day...or is it zeroth day?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm sabie12, any impressions of dunya, Epi, or myself (or anyone else that may have shimmied in a post)?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:57 pm
I'm hoping epi is my best friend, but I can't quite tell for sure yet. It'd be super cool if he is though!
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:11 pm
i need a neon church.
*burps*
*burps*
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:12 pm
I'm no sociopath. I always know what I'm doing is wrong. I'm just a guy that doesn't like taking tests, doing work, and getting yelled at. So if you think about it, I'm the sanest person here.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:12 pm
You guys are weird\
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:13 pm
Epig, will you be my friend?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:29 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:39 pm
MacDougall is a member of the mafia faction.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:42 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:47 pm
So is [mention]colonialbob[/mention].
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:57 pm
So naming people and calling them evil is what works for you? That's it?
I've got this.
DUNYA IS EVIL
All caps and everything.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:57 pm
my spanish name in high school spanish class was Jose.
Not that i remember anything i learned in spanish class other than a few random words and phrases.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:03 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:14 pm
Aww man epi you're a cool dude but not my bestest friend though. Hoping one of you is! I also hope everyone shows up to class eventually.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:49 pm
Ya got me
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:55 pm
I've got the second part down.
I need to see how DUNYA reacts to DUNYA IS EVIL.
I need to see how DUNYA reacts to DUNYA IS EVIL.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:58 pm
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:01 am
You're right.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:58 pmThat's not quite it, but I admire your deantermination.
I have to see how other people react to it as well.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:09 am
Is that you, Jeffrey?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:19 am
I am indeed a bachelor, and I don't care what people think about the piece of paper that says I'm that. Although, I am a bachelor.
Where's Hamish? Golden! Oh Golden!
Where's Hamish? Golden! Oh Golden!
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:24 am
Numbers consciousness starting platform:
With 12 players to start and the setup closed, there are numerous potential alignment ratios:
A - 9 vs. 3
B - 9 vs. 2 vs./plus 1
C - 8 vs. 2 vs./plus 1 vs./plus 1
D - 8 vs. 3 vs./plus 1
There are other possibilities, but I think these are the four likely by a wide margin. Based on my own intuitions about balance (some of which I think Sloonei would share given his similar background), I'd rank them as follows by probability: B > A > C > D. This is a theme which lends itself nicely to independents, but that may not matter with the characters and alignments randomized (i.e. Chang isn't automatically a serial killer or something).
Either 9 vs. 3 or 8 vs. 2 allows two mislynches before a MyLo (assuming nightly kills of one civilian and not accounting for unknown indy variables). 9 vs. 2 allows 3 mislynches. For now I recommend a worst-case projection of 2 available mislyches. As such, POE work has to be quite expedient in this game to have a chance of working effectively. A pool of 4 or 5 is already necessary on Day 0, and that means the civilians need to make themselves visible. "Cards close to chest" and "exclusively roleplay in every post without regard for the hunt" are thus strategies which can lose the game on their own if employed irresponsibly -- that'll place people into POE pools by default.
Role abilities will likely matter at some point, but I refuse to wait for that. Everyone is vanilla. Find the bad guys, or find so many good guys that you don't need to.
With 12 players to start and the setup closed, there are numerous potential alignment ratios:
A - 9 vs. 3
B - 9 vs. 2 vs./plus 1
C - 8 vs. 2 vs./plus 1 vs./plus 1
D - 8 vs. 3 vs./plus 1
There are other possibilities, but I think these are the four likely by a wide margin. Based on my own intuitions about balance (some of which I think Sloonei would share given his similar background), I'd rank them as follows by probability: B > A > C > D. This is a theme which lends itself nicely to independents, but that may not matter with the characters and alignments randomized (i.e. Chang isn't automatically a serial killer or something).
Either 9 vs. 3 or 8 vs. 2 allows two mislynches before a MyLo (assuming nightly kills of one civilian and not accounting for unknown indy variables). 9 vs. 2 allows 3 mislynches. For now I recommend a worst-case projection of 2 available mislyches. As such, POE work has to be quite expedient in this game to have a chance of working effectively. A pool of 4 or 5 is already necessary on Day 0, and that means the civilians need to make themselves visible. "Cards close to chest" and "exclusively roleplay in every post without regard for the hunt" are thus strategies which can lose the game on their own if employed irresponsibly -- that'll place people into POE pools by default.
Role abilities will likely matter at some point, but I refuse to wait for that. Everyone is vanilla. Find the bad guys, or find so many good guys that you don't need to.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:26 am
Literally nobody cares about any of this Day 0. Literally nobody.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:24 am Numbers consciousness starting platform:
With 12 players to start and the setup closed, there are numerous potential alignment ratios:
A - 9 vs. 3
B - 9 vs. 2 vs./plus 1
C - 8 vs. 2 vs./plus 1 vs./plus 1
D - 8 vs. 3 vs./plus 1
There are other possibilities, but I think these are the four likely by a wide margin. Based on my own intuitions about balance (some of which I think Sloonei would share given his similar background), I'd rank them as follows by probability: B > A > C > D. This is a theme which lends itself nicely to independents, but that may not matter with the characters and alignments randomized (i.e. Chang isn't automatically a serial killer or something).
Either 9 vs. 3 or 8 vs. 2 allows two mislynches before a MyLo (assuming nightly kills of one civilian and not accounting for unknown indy variables). 9 vs. 2 allows 3 mislynches. For now I recommend a worst-case projection of 2 available mislyches. As such, POE work has to be quite expedient in this game to have a chance of working effectively. A pool of 4 or 5 is already necessary on Day 0, and that means the civilians need to make themselves visible. "Cards close to chest" and "exclusively roleplay in every post without regard for the hunt" are thus strategies which can lose the game on their own if employed irresponsibly -- that'll place people into POE pools by default.
Role abilities will likely matter at some point, but I refuse to wait for that. Everyone is vanilla. Find the bad guys, or find so many good guys that you don't need to.
Except you. And you are literally nobody.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:27 am
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 am
Civilians don't lose because nobody paid attention to chart. You are doing work to do work.
You know what I do when I'm bad? I count on my fingers how many civilians I need to knock off to win. That's a mafia chart.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:32 am
Jay is more concerned with the setup than with who is bad. I have solved this thing for you.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:33 am
Civilians lose because they don't give a shit about winning. I lost in Vanilla Mafia because I didn't give a shit about winning. I didn't do work to do work.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 amCivilians don't lose because nobody paid attention to chart. You are doing work to do work.
You know what I do when I'm bad? I count on my fingers how many civilians I need to knock off to win. That's a mafia chart.
I don't care what you do when you're bad. My methods work and you are well aware.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 am
I dunno, filling the thread with this sort of stuff on day 0 might help you but it just makes the thread a more challenging read for me. Can't speak for the world though.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 am
Epignosis: "don't pay attention to things that slaughter mafia teams like cattle over and over including in the games I host"
Bad.
Bad.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 am
It's one post, Mac. What?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 amI dunno, filling the thread with this sort of stuff on day 0 might help you but it just makes the thread a more challenging read for me. Can't speak for the world though.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 am
You lost because you faced me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:33 amCivilians lose because they don't give a shit about winning. I lost in Vanilla Mafia because I didn't give a shit about winning. I didn't do work to do work.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 amCivilians don't lose because nobody paid attention to chart. You are doing work to do work.
You know what I do when I'm bad? I count on my fingers how many civilians I need to knock off to win. That's a mafia chart.
I don't care what you do when you're bad. My methods work and you are well aware.
(and to greater extent, nutella)
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 am
If they work then that's cool, go ahead and win us the game. If you're gonna take up this role there's not a whole lot of room for other people who like to lead the dance to do so and that's fine. I'll just sit on the sidelines and issue you intermittent support.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:33 amCivilians lose because they don't give a shit about winning. I lost in Vanilla Mafia because I didn't give a shit about winning. I didn't do work to do work.Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:30 amCivilians don't lose because nobody paid attention to chart. You are doing work to do work.
You know what I do when I'm bad? I count on my fingers how many civilians I need to knock off to win. That's a mafia chart.
I don't care what you do when you're bad. My methods work and you are well aware.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:36 am
Announcement: Jay doesn't care about the roof.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 am Epignosis: "don't pay attention to things that slaughter mafia teams like cattle over and over including in the games I host"
Bad.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:36 am
One post that caused my dick to shrivel up inside myself and I can't find it anymore Jay. My dick has disappeared and it's your fault.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 amIt's one post, Mac. What?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:34 amI dunno, filling the thread with this sort of stuff on day 0 might help you but it just makes the thread a more challenging read for me. Can't speak for the world though.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:37 am
The entire point of everything I do is to encourage other people to get more involved. You know that better than anyone. You participated in our DFS slaughter and acknowledged that the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the catalyst of that slaughter.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 amIf they work then that's cool, go ahead and win us the game. If you're gonna take up this role there's not a whole lot of room for other people who like to lead the dance to do so and that's fine. I'll just sit on the sidelines and issue you intermittent support.
So why are you now giving me this crap that can do nothing but discourage my effort to recreate that environment?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:39 am
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:40 am
I stepped in some goo. I thought this campus was clean.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:37 amThe entire point of everything I do is to encourage other people to get more involved. You know that better than anyone. You participated in our DFS slaughter and acknowledged that the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the catalyst of that slaughter.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 amIf they work then that's cool, go ahead and win us the game. If you're gonna take up this role there's not a whole lot of room for other people who like to lead the dance to do so and that's fine. I'll just sit on the sidelines and issue you intermittent support.
So why are you now giving me this crap that can do nothing but discourage my effort to recreate that environment?
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:43 am
I think dunya and JJJ are bad together.
Re: Community Mafia [DAY 0]
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:44 am
I didn't tell you to stop doing it. I am trying to tell you that this type of thing isn't going to encourage me to contribute (at the very least in the way that you would hope to see) because I take one look at multi paragraph posts full of game theory in them at 2.40pm on a Tuesday while I am approaching 3PMitis and decide that antagonising the goof doing it is just as good a use of my effort as being helpful.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:37 amThe entire point of everything I do is to encourage other people to get more involved. You know that better than anyone. You participated in our DFS slaughter and acknowledged that the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the catalyst of that slaughter.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 amIf they work then that's cool, go ahead and win us the game. If you're gonna take up this role there's not a whole lot of room for other people who like to lead the dance to do so and that's fine. I'll just sit on the sidelines and issue you intermittent support.
So why are you now giving me this crap that can do nothing but discourage my effort to recreate that environment?
Need I remind you that we don't get "Jay is civilian" written in our rolecards?