The Syndicate

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:13 am For the "don't exile a person more than once" strategy I believe that we need 6 names (minus the number of times we exile the cop) and we need no more than 2 of those names to be lost wolves.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:18 am I'm still confused about the setup. Is it nightless?

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:29 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:30 am I mean the drawback seems like it makes it easier for the framer/lawyer to guess the cops target.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:58 am I’m gonna assume the cop can’t investigate while in exile, i’ll check when I come back, shower then psych appointment. Peace out for now!

Pronouns are she/her btw. Just fyi

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:18 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:13 am For the "don't exile a person more than once" strategy I believe that we need 6 names (minus the number of times we exile the cop) and we need no more than 2 of those names to be lost wolves.

The alternative to this is picking 2-3 people with a maximum of one wolf between them and exiling each twice.

If two people are picked then the cop is exiled twice to make up for it.

That would also get us to where we need to be.

I think both of these above solutions are better than betting the game on a single player of just keeping the cop in exile.

Anybody got strong opinions on this?

cat wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:48 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother?

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:37 am I think with the exile vote isn't it better to not vote the same people twice while it's avoidable to do so?

That way it's betting on making no more than 3 mistakes in the upper half of the player list (which seems fair) compared to betting the entire game on a specific player being town (which I think is easier to fake because of a lack of TMI).

Not sure if this is the better mech play.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:16 am Dunno what exile really is for. Thought it was some purgatory kind of game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:02 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:37 am I think with the exile vote isn't it better to not vote the same people twice while it's avoidable to do so?

That way it's betting on making no more than 3 mistakes in the upper half of the player list (which seems fair) compared to betting the entire game on a specific player being town (which I think is easier to fake because of a lack of TMI).

Not sure if this is the better mech play.

I disagre. One of our win conditions is to send three traitors to Exile over the course of the game, and with the limited knowledge that traitors have of each other, yeeting based on interactions will be difficult.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:02 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 9:37 am I think with the exile vote isn't it better to not vote the same people twice while it's avoidable to do so?

That way it's betting on making no more than 3 mistakes in the upper half of the player list (which seems fair) compared to betting the entire game on a specific player being town (which I think is easier to fake because of a lack of TMI).

Not sure if this is the better mech play.

I disagre. One of our win conditions is to send three traitors to Exile over the course of the game, and with the limited knowledge that traitors have of each other, yeeting based on interactions will be difficult.

I'm not sure if I'm misinterpreting you here but if we exile three traitors we instantly lose the game!

I know I didn't notice this the first time I read the OP either.

cat wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:48 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:12 pm We have a heavy reliance on the cop this game I think (thankfully there's a backup, on the off chance that there's a cc), which means that them claiming might not be in our best interest yet, because it'll give the Anti-Cop more info into who they should frame.

That said, claiming early would prevent cc wars from going down.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:42 pm

cat wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:48 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

Would bringing up the idea be consistent as a soft cause I feel ot is, bringing up strategies for traitors like this ain’t a good look.

Vote Cat

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:48 pm

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:42 pm

cat wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:48 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

Would bringing up the idea be consistent as a soft cause I feel ot is, bringing up strategies for traitors like this ain’t a good look.

Vote Cat

This is kind of towny even if I don't fully agree with the conclusion but keep going

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:49 pmOkay back to work

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:45 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:12 pm We have a heavy reliance on the cop this game I think (thankfully there's a backup, on the off chance that there's a cc), which means that them claiming might not be in our best interest yet, because it'll give the Anti-Cop more info into who they should frame.

That said, claiming early would prevent cc wars from going down.

The backup doesn’t know he’s the backup till our cop dies though.

Marmy you’ve played with me before so I’m gonna ask do you trust my reads? Cause the post I just highlighted by Cat has got my radar painted RED TRAITOR

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:48 pm Marmot knows I'm KZA

Marmot might just be town

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:04 pm But anybody with experience with Cat as a player and their meta/strategy can gladly weigh in, i’m all bog cute cartoon eyes over here!

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:29 pm Thoughts on my play thus far? Thoughts on Cat?

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:09 pm Marmy just throwing a vote for the sake of it makes me feel decent about him, trying to get things going is a good sign, i think he would just hide behind mech talk and/or try manipulating the current strategy we have in place.

Just small town feels. Not enough to join my town inner circle (super exclusive by the by) but definitely enough for a slight town lean.

I love stab in the dark day one