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Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:58 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:56 pm Rondo is being reasonable and townie and solvey which means he is lock mafia.
100%

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:14 pm
by MacDougall
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:53 pm
ilario wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:06 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:41 pm Milium town Seanzie town.
I think ur probably town but can you explain these two reads ?
See above for Seanzie.

Milium is town because they are a completely fresh face in the middle of an extremely insular playerlist that all know each other and have lots of experience with each other and still come off as the most relaxed and comfortable person in the thread.
I was already in agreement with you on this point.
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:54 pm I rescind my townread on Seanzie because he didn't get offended enough when I said he was out of his scum range.
But then you made this one and I agreed so much it literally made me shake my head in astonishment irl.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:16 pm
by MacDougall
Townreads

2

Town leans

2

POE

2

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:22 pm
by MacDougall
Just pointing out we have no post cap here so this game should already have 10 pages.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:28 pm
by Millium
ok my avatar should be good now, I hope

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:29 pm
by Seanzie
Millium wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:28 pm ok my avatar should be good now, I hope
Yeah, it works now.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:48 pm
by MacDougall
Anyone who has not posted yet is mafia.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:52 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:22 pm
Millium wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:15 pm I find it hard to believe wolf!Alison takes this approach and instantly roleclaims, well psuedo roleclaims I guess, if u want to argue them not claiming the name should change my thoughts
im curious how you even balance a game with roles and alignments being randed separately, and I am also curious how that works with the 3p we know exists, or possible 3p's (if that ends up being the case)
Usually lots of low to mid power roles

I would assume 3p has a few abilities and one is a safe claim
Are you the 3P? :think:
No I'm the vig I already claimed

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:53 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:53 pm
ilario wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:06 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:41 pm Milium town Seanzie town.
I think ur probably town but can you explain these two reads ?
See above for Seanzie.

Milium is town because they are a completely fresh face in the middle of an extremely insular playerlist that all know each other and have lots of experience with each other and still come off as the most relaxed and comfortable person in the thread.
Millium is wisp

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:54 pm
by Alison
Wisp is town clearing me for claiming my role in post 1?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:55 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Yarp

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:58 pm
by Alison
Okay well that's weird and suspicious because I don't think Wisp's knowledge of me should lead him to do that.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:59 pm
by Alison
@Millium Haven't you seen me do bold fakeclaims before?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:59 pm
by arogame123
Ahh, good to be back hehe

Just watched One Piece Film Red and was a good movie!

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:00 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I also dont think this is a particularly insular playerlist is it?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:00 am
by Millium
Yes I am still Wisp, this account had a name change because of an Osie game, and I just kept it as Millium, of which I only use Millium Orion avatars, a character from Trails of Cold Steel

and yes, I am ok with my analysis of your 1st post as it stands

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean it's irrelevant to wisp cause he would be on the inside but

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am
by arogame123
I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am
by Millium
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:59 pm @Millium Haven't you seen me do bold fakeclaims before?
no I haven't, I've only ever seen you yell at people

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:02 am
by MacDougall
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
depends at what stage of the game we are, n1 you go person a and never look back

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:02 am
by arogame123
@Millium , it seems like you’re wolf rand streak has ended lol

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:02 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
Trick question i kill myself

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:03 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Millium wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:59 pm @Millium Haven't you seen me do bold fakeclaims before?
no I haven't, I've only ever seen you yell at people
I've missed wisp posting ❤

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:03 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I'm mildly not sober and here to vibe for a few minutes before I sleep

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:04 am
by arogame123
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:03 am I'm mildly not sober and here to vibe for a few minutes before I sleep
Good vibes all around

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:05 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Nothing but good vibes here i can feel it

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:05 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
You should all play video mafia tomorrow in my honor, Marmot is hosting

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am
by Alison
Millium wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:59 pm @Millium Haven't you seen me do bold fakeclaims before?
no I haven't, I've only ever seen you yell at people
Yelling at people is good practice. The world would be better if more people did it.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am
by Alison
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
B

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am
by arogame123
Yup yup, I already have a good feeling about this game!

Also, since pikachu has outted already… thank you!

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am
by arogame123
Alison wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am
Millium wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am
Alison wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:59 pm @Millium Haven't you seen me do bold fakeclaims before?
no I haven't, I've only ever seen you yell at people
Yelling at people is good practice. The world would be better if more people did it.
Old Testament shall rise am I right??

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:07 am
by Alison
I guess it also depends on what the playerlist is, in a total vacuum with random players I'd kill A, in this playerlist I'd kill B.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:07 am
by arogame123
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:05 am You should all play video mafia tomorrow in my honor, Marmot is hosting
Sure!

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:09 am
by MacDougall
someone with an incorrect solve can also not be relied to maintain it, if they change it into a good one their unchoppable status makes them exceptionally problematic

someone solving well who can be mischopped ... it's like well how mischoppable?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:12 am
by RondoDimBuckle
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
Probably B is objectively the best play, unlynchable and wyfiom? Why not, double win

Isnt that the obvious choice?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:13 am
by RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:02 am
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
depends at what stage of the game we are, n1 you go person a and never look back
Well. I stand corrected

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:13 am
by arogame123
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:09 am someone with an incorrect solve can also not be relied to maintain it, if they change it into a good one their unchoppable status makes them exceptionally problematic

someone solving well who can be mischopped ... it's like well how mischoppable?
Well Assuming both parameters are static and you have to choose at night (can be any phase of the game).

And when I say mischoppable, you can get them killed at any point in the game. I’d say probably medium effort to get them killed.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:13 am
by RondoDimBuckle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:02 am
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
Trick question i kill myself
lol tbqh

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 am
by MacDougall
Would you leave a green check that's reading the game badly alive over SPF with a correct POE on n1?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 am
by arogame123
But obviously if they get killed and flip town, their legacy would also haunt you in a way, so it’s tough in those regards.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 am
by Millium
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
it depends is all i will say, and I dont think anyone is truly unlynchable given the right context
I would want to kill whoever benefits me the most given the game state regardless of their reads I think?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:15 am
by arogame123
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 am Would you leave a green check that's reading the game badly alive over SPF with a correct POE on n1?
I would personally kill SPF, because their might be external roles our other things to prevent the kill on the green check. It’s also risky because of PRs. But killing spf puts more emphasis on “mafia wanted them dead” so we gotta be more aware of what her reads were.

But I’d still lean spf here tbh.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:15 am
by MacDougall
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:13 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:09 am someone with an incorrect solve can also not be relied to maintain it, if they change it into a good one their unchoppable status makes them exceptionally problematic

someone solving well who can be mischopped ... it's like well how mischoppable?
Well Assuming both parameters are static and you have to choose at night (can be any phase of the game).

And when I say mischoppable, you can get them killed at any point in the game. I’d say probably medium effort to get them killed.
Okay so medium effort rules out a lot of the top players who are just impossible to miselim as town.

So now you're asking whether I kill a green check who is reading the game badly over a really strongly solving midrange player and the answer is the green check unless they are like a total and entire potato of a player.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:16 am
by arogame123
Millium wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:14 am
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
it depends is all i will say, and I dont think anyone is truly unlynchable given the right context
I would want to kill whoever benefits me the most given the game state regardless of their reads I think?
So you’d go option B then I assume? In order to keep your options more open?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:17 am
by ilario
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:01 am I would like everyone to answer this question if they could.

If you are mafia and you have a choice to kill between 2 people and can only pick one person.

Person A: has a good solve but is myslynchable

Person B: has an incorrect solve but is unlynchable

Which person do you choose to kill?
Usually B

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:17 am
by Millium
if Person B is a good player, being wrong at one point, doesn't mean they will stay wrong, and being unlynchable assumes they are either confirmed or a strong player, if we are talking about a static hypothetical

I mean that's specifically why we killed Illario, they weren't playing the hottest, but they had the potential to turn the game around

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:18 am
by ilario
arogame123 wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:06 am Yup yup, I already have a good feeling about this game!

Also, since pikachu has outted already… thank you!

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine
Why do you have a good feeling already?

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:19 am
by MacDougall
If the question is:

it is possible to chop person a but not person b
but person a is playing really awesome for town and person b is playing really poorly.

it comes down to whether person b playing poorly is out of character or whether they are just a really bad player lol.

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:20 am
by Alison
I generally keep inters alive yeah

Re: Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [DAY 1]

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:21 am
by Millium
Alison wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:20 am I generally keep inters alive yeah
lmao this is an Alison response