The Syndicate

I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

Vompatti wrote:I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

What have you become now?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

What have you become now?

A nihilist.

We need to get 7 more players for this game stat.

MovingPictures07 wrote:We need to get 7 more players for this game stat.

I asked my brother (in Cincinnati) to play. We'll see if he's interested. He does love Monopoly.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:We need to get 7 more players for this game stat.

I asked my brother (in Cincinnati) to play. We'll see if he's interested. He does love Monopoly.

That'd be awesome!

Vompatti wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

What have you become now?

A nihilist.

Nihilists! F*ck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

Long Con wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

What have you become now?

A nihilist.

Nihilists! F*ck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

National Socialism is not that bad. At least it doesn't have all that dreadful democracy.

Vompatti wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

What have you become now?

A nihilist.

Nihilists! F*ck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

National Socialism is not that bad. At least it doesn't have all that dreadful democracy.

Hitler was democratically elected, so you actually have kind of a good point.

thellama73 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I used to be a communist when I was a kid.

What have you become now?

A nihilist.

Nihilists! F*ck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

National Socialism is not that bad. At least it doesn't have all that dreadful democracy.

Hitler was democratically elected, so you actually have kind of a good point.

No, he wasn't.

He received more than twice as many votes as any other candidate running. I think the point remains valid.

thellama73 wrote:He received more than twice as many votes as any other candidate running. I think the point remains valid.

Without getting into an intense debate about the rise and fall of totalitarian powers, it's pretty clear that the Nazi party used heavy amounts of German history... the Nazi party used a lot of violence and intimidation methods to gain support. They set fire to the Reichstag for Christ's sake! In addition, Hitler was appointed Chancellor in 1933 by the President of Germany. The Nazi party had the most seats, but lacked a majority. They only took power because other parties failed to unite against them. Hitler made himself dictator through the Enabling Act-- something that passed the Reichstag with Nazi soldiers literally about to storm the building.

Nothing about Hitler's rise to power was democratic. Democracy is by no means perfect, but it also did not contribute to the rise of Hitler.

Dom wrote:

thellama73 wrote:He received more than twice as many votes as any other candidate running. I think the point remains valid.

Without getting into an intense debate about the rise and fall of totalitarian powers, it's pretty clear that the Nazi party used heavy amounts of German history... the Nazi party used a lot of violence and intimidation methods to gain support. They set fire to the Reichstag for Christ's sake! In addition, Hitler was appointed Chancellor in 1933 by the President of Germany. The Nazi party had the most seats, but lacked a majority. They only took power because other parties failed to unite against them. Hitler made himself dictator through the Enabling Act-- something that passed the Reichstag with Nazi soldiers literally about to storm the building.

Nothing about Hitler's rise to power was democratic. Democracy is by no means perfect, but it also did not contribute to the rise of Hitler.

Unless you consider the majority of France's population wanted retribution against Germany for WWI and that put pressure on the talks in Versailles to be excessively punitive to Germany... because that was a huge part of Hitler's rise to power.

Did more than 17 million people vote for Hitler to be Chancellor or didn't they? I rest my case. :P

thellama73 wrote:Did more than 17 million people vote for Hitler to be Chancellor or didn't they? I rest my case. :P

No.. they did not. Hitler received no votes for Chancellor because Hindenburg appointed him to be the Chancellor. This gave him quite a bit of power in addition to his paramilitary forces he had recruited since 1923. As soon as Hitler became Chancellor he called for the dissolving the Reichstag and new elections. In addition, his paramilitary forces used violence against competitors in the elections of 1933. After the Reichstag fire, Hitler requested that he be able to use parts of Article 48 of the Weimar Constitution to restrict civil liberties and use force to suppress opposition. He did so. The Communist party had, effectively, no chance of winning any real power in the election-- not because of their policy being unpopular, but because the Nazi Party had essentially banned them (which they later did the day after the election). The violence and intimidation used heavily impacted what candidates could be voted for and were voted for.
Yes, the Nazi party received 17 million votes in the election of 1933. However, Hitler was already Chancellor when it happened. Hitler had total control of many facets of Germany at that point. He had a small army at his disposal. The people of Germany were hardly free to choose a party.

This is a criticism of a parliamentary republic, not a democracy. The elections were hardly free and fair. I don't see how you can credit Hitler's rise to power to democracy in Germany.


Not that I'm an advocate for a strict democracy-- just saying.

I'm not crediting Hitler's rise to power to democracy, I'm saying that he was able to rise to power legally within a system that was more or less democratic, insofar as people could vote for their representation. The point is that people always act as though allowing the people to vote someone insures against tyrants, when this is manifestly not the case. Americans have been told for decades that we have to bring democracy to the Middle East as if that will suddenly eliminate oppression and violence. But I digress.

thellama73 wrote:I'm not crediting Hitler's rise to power to democracy, I'm saying that he was able to rise to power legally within a system that was more or less democratic, insofar as people could vote for their representation. The point is that people always act as though allowing the people to vote someone insures against tyrants, when this is manifestly not the case. Americans have been told for decades that we have to bring democracy to the Middle East as if that will suddenly eliminate oppression and violence. But I digress.

I think we might be on the same page.

I'll switch to the cannon.

Just in case.

Sorry guys, I can't :/

Epignosis wrote:I'll switch to the cannon.

Just in case.

I'm taking the iron. And I don't care who from.

Blame MP

Made wrote:Blame MP

Not fair, this guy's a liar.

I hate to do this, but there's no way I can keep up with this game. :/ I am out, Boo. I apologize. I will be missing out.

We are losing so many players How do we get more?

I tried to work my wifey magic on keys but to no avail. One game is his limit.

I think with the biggest mafia downtime season approaching (AKA the holiday season), as well as the insanely active Doctor Who game, and Zelda just starting might have something to do with it.

Nonetheless, I agree, TH. Let's try to regain some momentum here! Only 10 players, right?

We need to put peer pressure on deadies and people we know who are not playing this game.

S~V~S wrote:We need to put peer pressure on deadies and people we know who are not playing this game.

Peer pressure is useless against me.

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:We need to put peer pressure on deadies and people we know who are not playing this game.

Peer pressure is useless against me.

That's because you are without peer.

Something I've always wondered: what if all your peers tell you not to give in to peer pressure? Then what do you do?

Get better peers; those sound rather dull. Peer Pressure can be fun

S~V~S wrote:We need to put peer pressure on deadies and people we know who are not playing this game.

This.

thellama73 wrote:Something I've always wondered: what if all your peers tell you not to give in to peer pressure? Then what do you do?

Kill them.

I'm in. If you all will have me that is. Just be forewarned that Nov. 3-9 I am going to be visiting a certain Sockface fiancé of mine in Texas.

Okay, Doctor Who is over.

Who's ready to play some Monopoly?

Seriously, we need 8 players. NOW.

Since Dom backed out (and since I am frankly sick of Modding right now) I'll play.

Dammit, MP, I was trying to take a break :P But if I must, I must. I'll play

Awesome! 6 more to go.

Keys should play

Dom wrote:Keys should play

Agreed definitely!!

And so should... MR, Made, Enrique, Rox, juliets... and there are others. You know who you are!

me join game

keys56000000000 wrote:me join game

Awesome, glad to be playing another game with you!

keys56000000000 wrote:me join game

you nub. I was just thinking of backing out of playing

If we can get enough players for this to start soon I will still play because I did promise boo when he asked me. But if it takes a while not sure I will be able to.

fingersplints wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:me join game

you nub. I was just thinking of backing out of playing

If we can get enough players for this to start soon I will still play because I did promise boo when he asked me. But if it takes a while not sure I will be able to.

Alright, you heard her!

5 more. Everyone, spam every person you know.

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm in. If you all will have me that is. Just be forewarned that Nov. 3-9 I am going to be visiting a certain Sockface fiancé of mine in Texas.

I will say this, just a warning: if the game does start during this time frame, for the reason stated above you should expect a temporarily relatively quiet MP.

That said, I don't care when the game starts, and I think we should get it going ASAP so that people can play and boo can host.

I am already confused for the record, but I will play.

Hedgeowl wrote:I am already confused for the record, but I will play.

Excellent.

Hedgeowl wrote:I am already confused for the record, but I will play.

hehe just kidding

I can't say no to Splints and MP

I'm in. Hi everyone

FZ. wrote:I can't say no to Splints and MP

I'm in. Hi everyone

Yay!!!!

So glad to have you back for a TS game!