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Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:39 am
by Ricochet
I don't know what is more headache-inducing already, the bendy rules or Epig's WoF interpretation of the poll.
My only dillemma is regarding the Forces' deaths. Wasatch cannot be lunched/killed before the other two Forces do, but the other Forces die, in a certain order, after Wasatch does. Is there a contradiction in this or do Great Salt Lake / Fremont die instead of Wasatch, if he is voted for lunch or targeted for a kill on a particular day/night?
I'll choose U. A lot of our names end with U, but, especially in arts, the U in artists' name often got changed to an O, in international (especially French) variants: Enesco, Ionesco... So the U is a more precious vowel. (wtf am I saying)
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:08 am
by thellama73
Ricochet wrote:I don't know what is more headache-inducing already, the bendy rules or Epig's WoF interpretation of the poll.
My only dillemma is regarding the Forces' deaths. Wasatch cannot be lunched/killed before the other two Forces do, but the other Forces die, in a certain order, after Wasatch does. Is there a contradiction in this or do Great Salt Lake / Fremont die instead of Wasatch, if he is voted for lunch or targeted for a kill on a particular day/night?
I'll choose U. A lot of our names end with U, but, especially in arts, the U in artists' name often got changed to an O, in international (especially French) variants: Enesco, Ionesco... So the U is a more precious vowel. (wtf am I saying)
I interpret this to mean that if we try to kill Wasatch, he doesn't die but one of the other members of his team dies in his place, until they are all gone.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:24 am
by FZ.
thellama73 wrote:Ricochet wrote:I don't know what is more headache-inducing already, the bendy rules or Epig's WoF interpretation of the poll.
My only dillemma is regarding the Forces' deaths. Wasatch cannot be lunched/killed before the other two Forces do, but the other Forces die, in a certain order, after Wasatch does. Is there a contradiction in this or do Great Salt Lake / Fremont die instead of Wasatch, if he is voted for lunch or targeted for a kill on a particular day/night?
I'll choose U. A lot of our names end with U, but, especially in arts, the U in artists' name often got changed to an O, in international (especially French) variants: Enesco, Ionesco... So the U is a more precious vowel. (wtf am I saying)
I interpret this to mean that if we try to kill Wasatch, he doesn't die but one of the other members of his team dies in his place, until they are all gone.
Yeah, that's how I read it. But if it's a lynch, wouldn't it make it easier to know who Wasatch is? Unless after that, he changes his role.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:28 am
by Ricochet
Myes, but in that case, wouldn't Wasatch's identity be compromised*? i.e. we vote to lynch player X, GLS/Fr are announced as lynched instead, so we'll realize player X was Wasatch and then just proceed to wipe out the whole Forces in two-three days, max.
*unless the roles will be reshuffled immediately after the lynch and Wasatch's identity will get lost again
linki: FZ just ninja'd me completely
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:42 am
by Ricochet
Oh, and George Donner can only protect someone from his BTSC group, right?
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:01 am
by thellama73
Ricochet wrote:Oh, and George Donner can only protect someone from his BTSC group, right?
I think "in your wagon train" means any player.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:10 am
by Ricochet
thellama73 wrote:Ricochet wrote:Oh, and George Donner can only protect someone from his BTSC group, right?
I think "in your wagon train" means any player.
I'm not sure. Every other protecting, blocking role is phrased as "any player" except this one.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:44 am
by S~V~S
Rox~ does wagon train mean any player, or does it mean BTS group?
Cause iirc, the RL Donner party split up into several trains. So that is a plausible interpretation.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:24 pm
by Bass_the_Clever
So I was really excited about this game starting but now I kinda of scared lol. With the roles changing and everything this seems like its going to be a game of luck, but we shall see.
I going to vote for the letter u.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:37 pm
by Tangrowth
Yay! Hello Snowman and Zomberella!
Typically, most mafia games around here start with a pregame "Day 0" phase where the poll can be themed off of whatever theme the host used to construct their game. The polls can have some outcome on the game or they can be just a way to get people acclimated before the lynching (in this game, lunching) starts.
I'm leaning towards the former for this one, but I doubt any of us can discern what it'll do.
FZ. wrote:Game!
Welcome new players

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I think you chose the wrong game to start your mafia experience. Not sure any of us will be able to help, but ask away
Now, I wonder if the wheel of fortune thing is related to the rotations. Like if we find the right letters, we switch to a new role or something.
I'm going with u
That's my fault.
I thought rotating powers would make it a bit complicated, but I knew there'd be a lot of BTSC, and Roxy games are always fun.
However, I didn't realize there would be rotating
alignments.
At least, if they make it through this game, subsequent games should be a breeze.

Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:11 pm
by Zombarella
Do not worry. I am totally up to the challenge. As an actual direct descendent of the Lavinia Jackson Murphy family, I am especially equipped for the task. Let's eat!
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:17 pm
by Long Con
Zomberella12 wrote:Do not worry. I am totally up to the challenge. As an actual direct descendent of the Lavinia Jackson Murphy family, I am especially equipped for the task. Let's eat!
Heh... the member of the Donner party that was secretly a zombie the whole time. "You know, I DO recall her casually bringing up eating people, even before our supplies ran out..." 
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:19 pm
by Marmot
Alex brought a zombie and a snowman to the party. One is equipped to eat other people, and one can survive the winter without food.
I feel at a disadvantage here. At least as a marmot, I am suited to high altitudes and cold weather.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:20 pm
by thellama73
Llamas come from the Andes, so I know all about mountain survival.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:24 pm
by Epignosis
I am Skeletor, the evil Lord of Snake Mountain. Also, I am already partly a skeleton.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:27 pm
by Ricochet
I have survived two days once without drinking Pepsi, so I'm good to go.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:40 pm
by Long Con
Does anyone have a shirt?
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:45 pm
by Zombarella
Zomberella12 wrote:
Do not worry. I am totally up to the challenge. As an actual direct descendent of the Lavinia Jackson Murphy family, I am especially equipped for the task. Let's eat!
Heh... the member of the Donner party that was secretly a zombie the whole time. "You know, I DO recall her casually bringing up eating people, even before our supplies ran out..."

Supplies are for mortals! Me want braaaaainz!
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:47 pm
by Zombarella
Ooooh. I didn't do that quote right. Lemme try again.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:49 pm
by Zombarella
Long Con wrote:Zomberella12 wrote:Do not worry. I am totally up to the challenge. As an actual direct descendent of the Lavinia Jackson Murphy family, I am especially equipped for the task. Let's eat!
Heh... the member of the Donner party that was secretly a zombie the whole time. "You know, I DO recall her casually bringing up eating people, even before our supplies ran out..." 
Now give me your brain please.

Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:01 pm
by Marmot
I don't really feel like lunching on zombies.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:06 pm
by Ricochet
I don't feel like lunching on people just yet, but good thing we have a marmot and a llama.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:31 pm
by Dom
Why not 'O'?
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:49 pm
by Tangrowth
So it appears we have 16 votes already! That means only one player hasn't voted yet, and I think that player is Ninja Blooper.
Other than that, I think only one player voted but hasn't posted yet: TySlayer.
Hopefully the Host can start D1 soon then!
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:52 pm
by Marmot
I'll order a Day 1 with a side of fried phalanges.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:04 pm
by Ricochet
MovingPictures07 wrote:So it appears we have 16 votes already! That means only one player hasn't voted yet, and I think that player is Ninja Blooper.
Other than that, I think only one player voted but hasn't posted yet: TySlayer.
Hopefully the Host can start D1 soon then!
From what I've noticed so far, Blooper usually comes late in the evening to post or vote. Might be the case today as well.
But otherwise, yeah, hopefully soon.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:06 pm
by Tangrowth
Ricochet wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:So it appears we have 16 votes already! That means only one player hasn't voted yet, and I think that player is Ninja Blooper.
Other than that, I think only one player voted but hasn't posted yet: TySlayer.
Hopefully the Host can start D1 soon then!
From what I've noticed so far, Blooper usually comes late in the evening to post or vote. Might be the case today as well.
But otherwise, yeah, hopefully soon.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I'm just shocked (pleasantly) that so many players have checked in already, so maybe the Host can give us an earlier Day 1. Otherwise, for now I eagerly await the game's real start.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:28 pm
by S~V~S
Hurry up and check in Ninjajujube!!
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:38 pm
by nijuukyugou
I'm here! Sorry I'm the latest - I tend to work until nearly 5 and have a 25 minute commute. Today was an early day

I'll vote E, because it's the most common English vowel. Also, English is the shit.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:50 pm
by TySlayer
Mom just told me to say something that's funny, makes sense, and doesn't offend anyone around me. I think I have my work cut out for me.

Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:53 pm
by Tangrowth
TySlayer wrote:Mom just told me to say something that's funny, makes sense, and doesn't offend anyone around me. I think I have my work cut out for me.

Awesome avatar, Ty!
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:39 pm
by nijuukyugou
MovingPictures07 wrote:TySlayer wrote:Mom just told me to say something that's funny, makes sense, and doesn't offend anyone around me. I think I have my work cut out for me.

Awesome avatar, Ty!
So much agreed.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:52 pm
by Roxy
WARNING!!
I will not be making a poll thread you will have to track votes yourselves this game!
Day 0 ends very shortly-----
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:09 pm
by Roxy
As night draws down everyone gathers around the Donner's tent.
Mr Donner clears his throat "Everyone get your nights rest - we leave at dawn!"
With that everyone returned to their own tents and turned in for the night. There were many a dream about the adventure and riches that awaited them on their upcoming journey.
Weather and Hunger smiled at each other and spoke "and so it begins!" they laughed themselves to sleep.
This will considered an even night for all intents and purposes - no kill powers can be used all other powers will be in play this night.
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:12 pm
by S~V~S
Just in case it had any bearing:
And I happened to be home at the right time today, that may not always be the case. So if you are around when polls end, save them
And I like a non-kill opening night

Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:23 pm
by Roxy
S~V~S wrote:Rox~ does wagon train mean any player, or does it mean BTS group?
Cause iirc, the RL Donner party split up into several trains. So that is a plausible interpretation.
Only those in his BTSC "wagon train" sorry if this is all confusing - hopefully it will find its groove by Day 2 or so

Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:23 pm
by thellama73
Yay! I love marshmallows.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:25 pm
by S~V~S
Roxy wrote:S~V~S wrote:Rox~ does wagon train mean any player, or does it mean BTS group?
Cause iirc, the RL Donner party split up into several trains. So that is a plausible interpretation.
Only those in his BTSC "wagon train" sorry if this is all confusing - hopefully it will find its groove by Day 2 or so

That is what I thought, it only applies to ones own group. Thanks

Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:26 pm
by Tangrowth
A non-kill Night 0, huh? Haven't seen one of these in a long while.
Re: The Donner Party - A New Beginning
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:51 pm
by Epignosis
Roxy wrote:
That's fucked up right there.
I mean, dude, make conversation at dinner. It isn't polite to gobble down your meal.
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:55 pm
by Ricochet
I always eat in a hurry.
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:56 pm
by Epignosis
Ricochet wrote:I always eat in a hurry.
How are you enjoying being bad in a game?
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:57 pm
by Tangrowth
Epignosis wrote:Ricochet wrote:I always eat in a hurry.
How are you enjoying being bad in a game?
What are you implying here?
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:57 pm
by Ricochet
Epignosis wrote:Ricochet wrote:I always eat in a hurry.
How are you enjoying being bad in a game?
Didn't get the chance, so far.
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:05 pm
by thellama73
Ricochet wrote:Epignosis wrote:Ricochet wrote:I always eat in a hurry.
How are you enjoying being bad in a game?
Didn't get the chance, so far.
Oh, he's a sly one. Nice try, Epi, he almost fell into your trap.
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:07 pm
by Tangrowth
How about we lynch Epi on D1?

Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:09 pm
by Ricochet
thellama73 wrote:Ricochet wrote:Epignosis wrote:Ricochet wrote:I always eat in a hurry.
How are you enjoying being bad in a game?
Didn't get the chance, so far.
Oh, he's a sly one. Nice try, Epi, he almost fell into your trap.
I don't recall falling in any trap before.

Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:17 pm
by Tangrowth
Has anyone had any luck thinking about how to attack this game's unconventional role alignment possibility?
I still haven't cracked this game and figured out a way to enhance the civilians' chances to win... There has to be a way other than just luck, but I haven't thought of it yet. I suppose understanding the mechanism by which roles and alignments will change might alter that, but other than that, I just can't think of what we're going to do this game in terms of evidence and case building.
If everyone's roles change every night, I can literally think of nothing to do than to blindly lynch players.
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:19 pm
by thellama73
MovingPictures07 wrote:Has anyone had any luck thinking about how to attack this game's unconventional role alignment possibility?
I still haven't cracked this game and figured out a way to enhance the civilians' chances to win... There has to be a way other than just luck, but I haven't thought of it yet. I suppose understanding the mechanism by which roles and alignments will change might alter that, but other than that, I just can't think of what we're going to do this game in terms of evidence and case building.
If everyone's roles change every night, I can literally think of nothing to do than to blindly lynch players.
Low posters?
Re: The Donner Party - Night 0
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:20 pm
by Tangrowth
thellama73 wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:Has anyone had any luck thinking about how to attack this game's unconventional role alignment possibility?
I still haven't cracked this game and figured out a way to enhance the civilians' chances to win... There has to be a way other than just luck, but I haven't thought of it yet. I suppose understanding the mechanism by which roles and alignments will change might alter that, but other than that, I just can't think of what we're going to do this game in terms of evidence and case building.
If everyone's roles change every night, I can literally think of nothing to do than to blindly lynch players.
Low posters?
If we're going to lynch essentially at random, I'm fine with that.
