Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Oh damn, my role was so cool. I was already planning what I'd do with it.

Well, the other roles are cool too, so I guess it's okay.

[Marmot]

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

Due to unforeseen circumstances, all of your current roles are now null and void. New roles are being distributed.

As a result, Day 0 will still end tomorrow, but missing the Day 0 poll will be looked upon with extreme leniency.

Apologies for any inconvenience/disappointment this causes.

And just as we were discussing open setups, too....

Economics is no longer a social science. It's a myth.

[fingersplints]

yay game... well sorta

I wish.

You may get that wish now

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Imo all options in the poll are somewhat true, but I like the irony of number 3 so I voted for it.

[Russtifinko]

Ok, second set of role PMs is out!

If you didn't get an amended role, got 2 roles, know someone else's role, fear someone knows your role, are confused about which role you're actually supposed to play as, or just want to gush about your new role, please PM the llama or me.

Cheers!

[Tangrowth]

Yay, new game!!!

Golden (and any others who are curious), FYI the only closed setup game that has been hosted here to date is Roxy and DP's Monty Python game. I plan on utilizing them in the future, since I think there are definitely pros and cons with both, and I love experimenting with new approaches to hosting mafia games.

Nice rap videos. Thanks for sharing, DDL! Somehow I had never seen those before. Awesome.

For me, there few things better about cross-pollination of sites than sharing ideas. I hope we get to see some of yours over here, too. There is something incredibly satisfying about delving into a game and discovering a new mechanic you haven't encountered before and considering it's possibilities.

QFT

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm trying to send a PM to the host to ask questions about my role but for some reason my reply keeps going to the outbox instead of being sent. Why is that?

[Marmot]

I'm trying to send a PM to the host to ask questions about my role but for some reason my reply keeps going to the outbox instead of being sent. Why is that?

It will sit in the outbox until it is read by the Host. Then it will move over to the Sent box.

Just a way of saying whether the receiver has read the PM yet or not.

[Black Rock]

I voted the third option because it made me laugh.

[Dom]

I forgot to mention Day 0 in the sign-ups thread when you folks were asking about it. It is a tradition that developed back in the Lostpedia and associated mafia forum days before I started playing (2010), since I'm not completely aware of its origin.

I believe Trev pioneered Day 0 with Star Wars Mafia. I could be wrong, though.

To add to my Day 0 thoughts, I believe Day 0 might have developed originally as a fun precursor to Night 0, during which everyone could use their night actions.

Interestingly, Night 0 fell out of fashion, and most games I recall playing go straight from Day 0 into Day 1, skipping Night 0, thus making "Day 0" a prelude of sorts.

I think Day 0 happened first. Then Some people adopt Night0 to give a bit more time or for night powers.... though, most players don't seem to like this.


TBH it's a social science tbqhqhq

[sanmateo]

Thought it'd be relevant:



#teamkeynes

(oh wait, that's mafia. #teamhayek then. At least until the game is over)

They also made a sequel:

more s1kk economics raps

[sanmateo]

my old role was so much better

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i'm used to accusing people for frivolous reasons when games begin. i get the feeling that's not the intent for Day 0, but rather for Day 1? i.e. it'd be in poor taste for me to just start trying to work out the game now?

or no? one of you friendly Syndicateers help me out with the etiquette.

[Elohcin]

Yay Game! I am excited to be in a Russ/Llama game. I liked both of my roles...can't decided which I like/ed better. :P

Hey JimmyJay! Yeah, we usually don't start accusing until Day 1

[Marmot]

i'm used to accusing people for frivolous reasons when games begin. i get the feeling that's not the intent for Day 0, but rather for Day 1? i.e. it'd be in poor taste for me to just start trying to work out the game now?

or no? one of you friendly Syndicateers help me out with the etiquette.

I suggest you do whatever you want. That's what I do. I'd rather have fun my way than your way if you know what I mean.

Of course, I won't guarantee any longevity.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

normally i would sign a thematically-relevant song here, but i know literally zero songs about economics

[Golden]

i'm used to accusing people for frivolous reasons when games begin. i get the feeling that's not the intent for Day 0, but rather for Day 1? i.e. it'd be in poor taste for me to just start trying to work out the game now?

or no? one of you friendly Syndicateers help me out with the etiquette.

I sometimes call people out on day 0, if I think there is legitimately something to be called out. It's not everyone's cup of tea. But there is no specific etiquette that I'm aware of. Baddies will win if civilians are more bound by etiquette than the imperative to find baddies.

[sanmateo]

agreed. + i wanna see what jay has to say

[Bubbles]

For the poll I was torn between social science and a branch of philosophy, it seems to be both. I voted philosophy because modern economics at least is very abstract.

Also love these smilies

[Bubbles]

Thought it'd be relevant:



#teamkeynes

(oh wait, that's mafia. #teamhayek then. At least until the game is over)

They also made a sequel:

Hehe these are great

I found another:

[JaggedJimmyJay]

agreed. + i wanna see what jay has to say

at the moment i have pretty much nothing to say. but that can change at any moment. so far i've received a 2-1 vote in favor of doing my thing, so i'll do my thing when the time comes.

[sanmateo]

i'm used to accusing people for frivolous reasons when games begin. i get the feeling that's not the intent for Day 0, but rather for Day 1? i.e. it'd be in poor taste for me to just start trying to work out the game now?

or no? one of you friendly Syndicateers help me out with the etiquette.

I suggest you do whatever you want. That's what I do. I'd rather have fun my way than your way if you know what I mean.

Of course, I won't guarantee any longevity.

i like the lowkey menacing sendoff there, like u are about to fuck up anyone who takes the initiative /shit-flinging

[Marmot]

i'm used to accusing people for frivolous reasons when games begin. i get the feeling that's not the intent for Day 0, but rather for Day 1? i.e. it'd be in poor taste for me to just start trying to work out the game now?

or no? one of you friendly Syndicateers help me out with the etiquette.

I suggest you do whatever you want. That's what I do. I'd rather have fun my way than your way if you know what I mean.

Of course, I won't guarantee any longevity.

i like the lowkey menacing sendoff there, like u are about to fuck up anyone who takes the initiative /shit-flinging

Most of the shit I fling hits the fan.

But shit makes for a good garden.

[Roxy]

Yay new game.

I voted Philosophy. But any are accurate.

Hi new people welcomes to The Machine ooops I mean The Syndicate.

[thellama73]

Well, we're off to an inauspicious start, but hopefully that's the last snag we have. Couple of quick things:

Please remember to copy both hosts on all PMs. And also:

I am serving double duty as auxiliary host/mod on duty, so if you have any complaints about Russti (I know you will have none about me) or your other players, or the game mechanics, or anything, please PM me and keep any nastiness out of the thread.

Thank you, and happy economicking!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

normally i try to generate my own content with RVS (random voting stage). so without votes right now i feel less potent. i'll settle for a substitute. pretend i am voting for you if your name is italicized.

Elohcin, your response may have implied a personal resistance to Day 0 sleuthing. would you say that's the case?

separately, can anyone tell me whether this forum has a spoiler function?

[Elohcin]

All my economics teacher talked about was how her and her friends partied in college. She said her friend got so drunk one times she peed in the dorm hallway. This story was one of the many that helped me to decide to go to a private college instead of a university. Too bad the private college was worse in other ways. :/

For the poll I was torn between social science and a branch of philosophy, it seems to be both. I voted philosophy because modern economics at least is very abstract.

Also love these smilies

Your names makes me think of this....


Linki @ Jay - oh no. I don't mind players using Day 0 to go after one another. It's just not common here so far. But, we have a lot of new friends now which my change things. I do not fear change

[Golden]

Spoiler: show

apparently not

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Spoiler: show

apparently not

y'all are gonna hate me.

prepare yourselves for massive posts

[Elohcin]

Oh no....another long poster like MP?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Linki @ Jay - oh no. I don't mind players using Day 0 to go after one another. It's just not common here so far. But, we have a lot of new friends now which my change things. I do not fear change

i believe you. i've found Day 1 (in this case Day 0) is perceived very differently across the internet. i am one to hit the ground running and churn up mass content early and often, but i know that isn't the norm everywhere. and i don't mean to annoy the heck out of half the players here in my first visit. RYM is decently fond of a proper poop fling war. The champs games over on 2+2 were/are intensely obsessed with a proper poop fling war.

and yes. as long a poster as they come, i like to think.

[Sloonei]

jay's poop flings are immaculate, let me tell you

[Golden]

i am one to hit the ground running and churn up mass content early and often

Join the club.

[Epignosis]

Malthus sounds like mouth to ass, and for good reason. His words reek of butt.

Using the population density of New York City, the population of the world could fit in the state of Texas.

And we've got Monsanto and corn subsidies, you moron.

Oh hello there. I'm Epignosis. You may remember me from such films as, "I Voted for Gary Johnson, Someone You Never Heard Of" and "Porn: Your Tax Dollars at Work."

Ah, don't worry about the latter film there. It's only voice-overs.

I have a simple message for you:

Redistribution belongs under your Christmas tree and not in your wealth.

Bubbles belong in your bathtub and not in your economy.

Progressiveness belongs in your rock music, and not in your taxation.

Join me, Epignosis, in saving the country- one sarcastic comment on the Internet at a time.

[Marmot]

Malthus sounds like mouth to ass, and for good reason. His words reek of butt.

Using the population density of New York City, the population of the world could fit in the state of Texas.

And we've got Monsanto and corn subsidies, you moron.

Oh hello there. I'm Epignosis. You may remember me from such films as, "I Voted for Gary Johnson, Someone You Never Heard Of" and "Porn: Your Tax Dollars at Work."

Ah, don't worry about the latter film there. It's only voice-overs.

I have a simple message for you:

Redistribution belongs under your Christmas tree and not in your wealth.

Bubbles belong in your bathtub and not in your economy.

Progressiveness belongs in your rock music, and not in your taxation.

Join me, Epignosis, in saving the country- one sarcastic comment on the Internet at a time.

Did DH crawl up your pants it take a big old chomp on your rear end?

[Golden]

And with those two posts, I have officially lost any idea of what is going on in this thread.

I would vote for Epignosis for being a show-off know-it-all, but that would be hypocritical.

[Marmot]

And with those two posts, I have officially lost any idea of what is going on in this thread.

I would vote for Epignosis for being a show-off know-it-all, but that would be hypocritical.

You have officially lost. And thus economy is working successfully and effectively.

Thanks for playing. Who's next?

[Golden]

And with those two posts, I have officially lost any idea of what is going on in this thread.

I would vote for Epignosis for being a show-off know-it-all, but that would be hypocritical.

You have officially lost. And thus economy is working successfully and effectively.

Thanks for playing. Who's next?

In a game about the economy, voting out the guy called 'golden' is certain to lead to a recession at minimum. In a world of supply and demand, surely it's more of me you demand.

[Marmot]

And with those two posts, I have officially lost any idea of what is going on in this thread.

I would vote for Epignosis for being a show-off know-it-all, but that would be hypocritical.

You have officially lost. And thus economy is working successfully and effectively.

Thanks for playing. Who's next?

In a game about the economy, voting out the guy called 'golden' is certain to lead to a recession at minimum. In a world of supply and demand, surely it's more of me you demand.

Marmots don't care for shiny objects, unless they can be eaten.

[acrosstheaether]

Hi. Sorry for missing the day. I've been loaded to death with uni stuff and other stuff to do lately. How am I supposed to vote on the poll?

[fingersplints]

I like free stuff, and that option has the least votes so

[Tangrowth]

Dom, thanks for clarifying! I was always curious about that.

Jay, it's not conventional to hunt on Day 0, but a few of us have from time to time or consistently (Golden, FZ., blindfaeth, sometimes me...), and I firmly believe that baddies are caught only via discussion. Having seen your poop flinging in action, I say bring it on.

Aether, have you read the thread? And I mean that in the nicest possible way. There was a discussion regarding the purpose of Day 0 polls and speculation regarding this poll earlier on. That said, you can just vote for any option you want. Considering Russ's very lax attitude towards it, I'm beginning to entertain this poll might even be a meaningless check-in topic starter poll, devoid of any individual prizes or game impact whatsoever. We shall see though.

Also, good to see Epi in full form.

Regarding spoiler tags, I really need to get those. It will happen.

[Tangrowth]

I have a simple message for you:

Redistribution belongs under your Christmas tree and not in your wealth.

Bubbles belong in your bathtub and not in your economy.

Progressiveness belongs in your rock music, and not in your taxation.

[Tangrowth]

As for music about Economics, somehow I can't really think of any either.

However, what about Kraftwerk? Maybe as close as I can conceive. Plus, I'll take ANY excuse that I possibly can to talk about Kraftwerk.

[thellama73]

Rush has some music vaguely about economics.

Also, thanks to the hard and gracious work of Doctor Pictures, CPA, we now have links to people's posts on the front page.

[Epignosis]

[Ricochet]

eeeeeeeeeeew

EWWWWWWWWWW

[Tangrowth]

Rush has some music vaguely about economics.

Also, thanks to the hard and gracious work of Doctor Pictures, CPA, we now have links to people's posts on the front page.

I endorse the Rush music more highly than any other I've posted.

Also, you're welcome.

[Tangrowth]

But sadly I'm not a Dr. yet.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The prog origins of this site are already quite evident.