The Syndicate

Yeah you're prolly right. Dude I'm paranoid never listen to me.

Bullz, Typh?

LC has just hinted that he is Mr. Eko by saying he is only doing what the island wants. But so does Ben. And Ben is hardly a good guy. Mr. Eko would not be a power role, methinks.

Yeah Typh sounds fine. I think LC is hinting at Locke actually, since characters in this game seem to be based on season one and Locke claimed Boone was a sacrifice the Island demanded. Locke will probably be a power role IMO.

Also just in case any of us do accidentally post in the wrong place I'd like to suggest we just don't use each other's names in this thread.

Holy cow, [name omitted], you are correct. That's more of a Locke thing. And of all the people, wouldn't he be the best candidate to be the detective? I mean Locke actively searches for the meaning of everything.

The other question is: would LC really be so blunt as to make that hint if he were the detective?

Do you think that LC or Typh helps us more? Typh is poking in all the wrong places for town. Both he and LC are contributors.

Let's look at a list of characters and break down who we think they are assigned to, or if they're even notable enough to be used in this abbreviated game...based on hints players have already given.

Boone: DFaraday
Locke: LC?
Sawyer: Epi
Kate: Bullz.
Jack: (Doc?) ???
Hurley: ???
Sayyid: ???
Jin: nutella
Sun: Matt
Claire: ???
Charlie: Scotty
Shannon:
Michael:

Left off Walt because...Walt. What's he gonna do, look demented and shout out DAD every few seconds?

Now I would half expect the PRs to not claim a role, because that would be...a poor choice.

Typh actually seems to me like he is hiding his role. The only hint he has given is his "Guys, where are we?" Which is what Charlie says. But I am Charlie. So...

I dunno. I think Typh is a good choice. What say you all?

I believe we all agree on Typhoony, Golden!

Let's give LC a chance. His and BR's AWR game rocked it out and I'd like to spare him at least Night 1. But I'm down with destroying him on Night 2 if you want.

SVS commented that she is on Team Juliet. Which could mean she is either representative of Juliet's ideals IRL or her character is on team juliet. I'm guessing the former, because Juliet wasn't on the plane. Jack was on team Juliet for a time, but I think that would be a bit of a stretch.

Sorsha, Wilgy, Floyd and Zebra have dropped no hints about their roles thus far. We still have Jack, Claire, Hurley, Sayyid, and Michael to figure out. And out of those, I would only see Sayyid and Jack as having a chance of being a PR.

Something to keep monitoring.

wtf. Really? Did he self-protect or get protected? I thought for sure Typh was a safe pick.

TheFloyd73 wrote: I also wonder wether Matt is using the same technique on Bullz that Epi used on me in that Tree game.

Ruh-roh. I don't know what he's talking about. But I don't like where this is going...

This day is already not going how i wanted it

Yeah it's not looking great atm but there's still 48 hours and anything could change.

Yesssss Sorsha my little puppet...agree with my suspicions and trust Matt....yess.....

We're gonna getchu out of this hole Matt..

Well, maybe not Bullzeye, but we have some help from Epi and Typh. So there's that.

Typh not dying...sucks. But hey, he's defending me so yay.

Also, I've never felt this bad as a baddie before. Epi and SVS goin' at it over me feels effed up. I want to scream at both of them "just stop! I'm bad okay? I'm bad!"

I'm not sure where SVS thinks I was accusing her of being personal? Maybe when I said she does this to me every game? I think I was exaggerating by saying that, I wasn't tryin' to hurt her feelings. But yeah, I do feel that at some point in every game we play, she accuses me of being bad lol. So maybe I wasn't exaggerating haha. Derp. Anyway SVS, if you read this after the game, know I think you're awesome dudette. For reals!

Anyway, wow, Epignosis is never going to trust or defend me again after this game lol.

Omg I just used 11 smilies in a post and didn't even realize it.

Hopefully nobody points that out.

Matt wrote:Typh not dying...sucks. But hey, he's defending me so yay.

Also, I've never felt this bad as a baddie before. Epi and SVS goin' at it over me feels effed up. I want to scream at both of them "just stop! I'm bad okay? I'm bad!"

I'm not sure where SVS thinks I was accusing her of being personal? Maybe when I said she does this to me every game? I think I was exaggerating by saying that, I wasn't tryin' to hurt her feelings. But yeah, I do feel that at some point in every game we play, she accuses me of being bad lol. So maybe I wasn't exaggerating haha. Derp. Anyway SVS, if you read this after the game, know I think you're awesome dudette. For reals!

Anyway, wow, Epignosis is never going to trust or defend me again after this game lol.

I know that feel bro
Yeah I was looking through your posts to figure out where your "personal attacks" were, and that example is the best I could come up with as well, and that was a bit of a stretch as a 'personal attack'. I know what it feels like to be lashed out against for taking a stance, and I just don't know if she handles it well.

And yeah, Epi will never trust you after this.

I'm just hoping more people will "come to their senses" and jump on the zebra train or lynch SVS. I see both as possibilities. We might be able to get LC and nutella. Sorsha might be a bit of a hard cookie, but she's been looking more unsure about you today.

Bullz just keep doing what he's doing. His continual bombardment/tunneling of you, IMO, will be washed out over the din of all the people that have come out to defend you.

Yeah, at first, I thought if I were lynched, people would get Bullz right away. But I'm beginning to think if I'm lynched, Bullz is going to be the safest mofo in the game lol.

Gawd I suck at this game. But I love it so!

Btw wtf is up with Zeebs? She can't possibly believe that there has to be a baddie in one of two lynch wagons, so I don't even know how to defend against that haha.

Matt wrote:Btw wtf is up with Zeebs? She can't possibly believe that there has to be a baddie in one of two lynch wagons, so I don't even know how to defend against that haha.

I'm honestly not sure why others don't objectively see how sketch her turn-around was. I mean, why is she so convinced? There is nothing to back her up.

I also really want to kill LC. I think he is Locke.

Oh man oh man, I wanna kill LC.

There'd be no reason for anyone to protect Typh so Typh has gotta be a protect role, right? Who covered himself night 1?

It can't be a block, because we never "sent" a PM. No one to block!

Well Matt...looks like you're pretty much baked today. Bummer sauce. I think I can turn your lynch against Zebra, who so effortlessly changed her mind. At first it would appear that she caught you! But, that can also be used against her I feel.

Also. I changed my mind. I want SVS dead next. Her civ reads, her thinking all the time. I think she is being very careful and has already gotten a read on one of Epi or Typh as good.

Typhoony wrote:Zebra do you have info that Matt is bad?

That would be interesting. But doesn't make sense to me.

I think Typh is trying to lead us astray here.

Also, I do believe that someone could have protected Typh besides himself. Improbable, but possible.

SVS, LC and Zebra now are my candidates for Locke.

BUT. SVS said she returned back to the beach today, even though it doesn't fit with her storyline. If I recall, I know that Claire is kidnapped and comes back to the beach. OR one of the factions like Locke/Jack,etc.

I think she could very much be Claire. And still dont think the doc/investigator would be so brash about their role hints.

Matt wrote:There'd be no reason for anyone to protect Typh so Typh has gotta be a protect role, right? Who covered himself night 1?

It can't be a block, because we never "sent" a PM. No one to block!

Blocking applies to abilities, not PMs. The kill comes from your highest ranked living team member, which at the moment is Scotty.

Existence of a blocker: confirmed :P

Golden wrote:

Matt wrote:There'd be no reason for anyone to protect Typh so Typh has gotta be a protect role, right? Who covered himself night 1?

It can't be a block, because we never "sent" a PM. No one to block!

Blocking applies to abilities, not PMs. The kill comes from your highest ranked living team member, which at the moment is Scotty.

Oh.

Well, that changes things.

Who would have had to gall to block me D1?

If someone did indeed block me, they're doing a good job of hiding. The only person that has given me flak so far is zebra, but that could very well be a defense because I am voting for her.

Boone: DFaraday
Locke: SVS/LC/zebra?
Sawyer: Epi?
Kate: Bullz.
Jack: (Doc?) Typh? SVS?
Hurley: ???
Sayyid: ???
Jin: nutella
Sun: Matt
Claire: SVS?
Charlie: Scotty
Shannon: ???
Michael: ???

I am still much more confident in killing SVS tonight. What say you all?

RIP Matt. You know what's funny? Ethan dies right after Boone. If I recall.

Come on, the coincidence is pretty awe-some, but in the worst way.

You do know there's another 24 hours yet, right?

Ah.

No. I did not.

Wtf did we have a 48 hr day 1 cycle too?

Also nevermind, Ethan dies first, and then like 5 episodes later Boone dies. But it's pretty close.

nutella, Epi and Sorsha still have to vote. And who knows? Maybe Typh will change his vote.

Matt's back in it. Maybe. Depends on if we can repel zebra's confidence. It looks to me, unfortunately, that because she has pledged herself to be a martyr should Matt be bad, why WOULDN'T people just vote for Matt at this point?

I don't like it, and I still feel like she's got to have info. Because I'm going back to her faulty logic that one of the 2 trains day 1 have to be bad and I'm left scratching my head.

What are your thoughts on the potential PRs, Bullz? I tend to just spew thoughts.

I don't have anything different to add because I feel like I agree with the things that are already being said in here! I assume there is a Jack who can protect and Locke can probably get info but I feel like Locke's info might not always be accurate just because Locke was basically a gullible puppet his entire life. Other than that, I guess a blocker is likely to exist too.

Which of the following scenarios do you think is more likely?

-There is no blocker, and the doctor protected Typh.
-There is no blocker, and the doctor is Typh.
-A blocker blocked me and now knows that I am bad.

If it is the 1st one, I would expect Typh to have shown some sort of hint that he was attacked last night.
If it is the 2nd one, I also would expect Typh to have dropped that as well. Because then it would look as if he was protected by someone else.
If it is the 3rd one, then I would expect someone to come for my nuts. AND DADDY LIKES HIS NUTS THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I think SVS is the doctor and protected Typh and that's why she made a comment earlier about wanting to trust him.

Bullzeye wrote:I think SVS is the doctor and protected Typh and that's why she made a comment earlier about wanting to trust him.

OK. So do you think that Typh knew he was saved?

@Golden
are people informed if they were unsuccessfully killed?

Scotty wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I think SVS is the doctor and protected Typh and that's why she made a comment earlier about wanting to trust him.

OK. So do you think that Typh knew he was saved?

@Golden
are people informed if they were unsuccessfully killed?

I suppose that would depend on what their role is and why they survived.

If, for example, Typh survived because his role is 'you survive your first kill', then he would be informed that his ability had been used up.
If, for example, Typh survived because he was protected by someone else, then he would not be informed.
If, for example, Typh survived because you were blocked, then he would not be informed.
If, for example, Typh survived because he protected himself, then he would also not be informed. He would probably presume he saved himself, but he could not know for sure. given it is possible that the real reason there was no kill is something else.

Uh.

Sorsha and Epi. Sawyer and Jack squabbling like they did in the show. Incredible.

Well.

That happened.

I'm not sure if I should get a bucket of popcorn or a colonic irrigation after that entire 2-page exchange.

Sorsha doesn't seem to me like the deceiving type as a civilian. It would make sense for the doc to be low-profile.

Holy crap, I'm toast!

I just got home from a long ass shift, and I have to work all day tomorrow starting at 10 am.

Well I think I'm going to vote Zebra. It wouldn't make any sense for me to vote Sorsha at this point lol.

Thanks for fightin' the good fight, guys. Golden, am I allowed to chill with my mafia friends after I'm dead?

HOLY CRAP!

Happy Birthday Bullz!! Woot!

Matt wrote:Thanks for fightin' the good fight, guys. Golden, am I allowed to chill with my mafia friends after I'm dead?

I'll actually ask MP about this. I don't want to commit in advance. You will get access to the Spectator Thread, and I'm not sure what the general rule is for Heists. If you are allowed to stay, I'll let you stay. I think it is more fun that way

But... don't give up that good fight, Matt. There is still time, and you still seem to have at least Epi in your corner, so you never know how things will turn out.

Thanks for bein' cool with me bein' such a terrible baddie in your Lost game, Golden.

I'm never suspecting Bullz again. Like, ever.

Good luck team. I tried a last minute "hint" in thread, we'll see if it works. Peace!

I am not the moon indeed. Epi seems to believe you at least so he might tie the lynch up and help you.

Bullzeye wrote:I am not the moon indeed. Epi seems to believe you at least so he might tie the lynch up and help you.

Happy birthday Bullz!

Yes, and Typh seems as likely to change votes as a horny turtle humps shoes. So that right there could swing the vote as well.


As for tonight, it's a bit off, but there are some bad things working for us if the lay observer reads the entire picture.

Sorsha is probably protecting herself tonite. Unless we play Princess Bride WIFOM on repeat, I think we should avoid her tonight.
Sorsha claiming protect on Typh is bad for us. That all but clears him.
SVS claims she would never kill Typh N1. This is a philopshy that I have heard her say before, and am confident that she would follow through with that promise.

So those 3 are in my eyes all confirmed civ. Yeesh.

Whether or not SVS is vanilla or not, that's stil up in the air. It's ways off, but She or LC seem like a good choice. Better to start picking off confirmed civs as much as we can.

Scotty wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I am not the moon indeed. Epi seems to believe you at least so he might tie the lynch up and help you.

Happy birthday Bullz!

Yes, and Typh seems as likely to change votes as a horny turtle humps shoes. So that right there could swing the vote as well.


As for tonight, it's a bit off, but there are some bad things working for us if the lay observer reads the entire picture.

Sorsha is probably protecting herself tonite. Unless we play Princess Bride WIFOM on repeat, I think we should avoid her tonight.
Sorsha claiming protect on Typh is bad for us. That all but clears him.
SVS claims she would never kill Typh N1. This is a philopshy that I have heard her say before, and am confident that she would follow through with that promise.

So those 3 are in my eyes all confirmed civ. Yeesh.

Whether or not SVS is vanilla or not, that's stil up in the air. It's ways off, but She or LC seem like a good choice. Better to start picking off confirmed civs as much as we can.

Thanks

We kill Sorsha the night after tonight. Kill someone else tonight. Maybe someone like LC or Epi? Zebra's desire to not roleclaim will hopefully work out for us.

Everyone who isn't us should be confirmed civ in your eyes since we know who all the baddies are :P . Yes I think killing SVS or LC would be good, Epi is also making his role super super super obvious so we might benefit from killing him as well.

Bullzeye wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I am not the moon indeed. Epi seems to believe you at least so he might tie the lynch up and help you.

Happy birthday Bullz!

Yes, and Typh seems as likely to change votes as a horny turtle humps shoes. So that right there could swing the vote as well.


As for tonight, it's a bit off, but there are some bad things working for us if the lay observer reads the entire picture.

Sorsha is probably protecting herself tonite. Unless we play Princess Bride WIFOM on repeat, I think we should avoid her tonight.
Sorsha claiming protect on Typh is bad for us. That all but clears him.
SVS claims she would never kill Typh N1. This is a philopshy that I have heard her say before, and am confident that she would follow through with that promise.

So those 3 are in my eyes all confirmed civ. Yeesh.

Whether or not SVS is vanilla or not, that's stil up in the air. It's ways off, but She or LC seem like a good choice. Better to start picking off confirmed civs as much as we can.

Thanks

We kill Sorsha the night after tonight. Kill someone else tonight. Maybe someone like LC or Epi? Zebra's desire to not roleclaim will hopefully work out for us.

Everyone who isn't us should be confirmed civ in your eyes since we know who all the baddies are :P . Yes I think killing SVS or LC would be good, Epi is also making his role super super super obvious so we might benefit from killing him as well.

Yes, everyone in my eyes for sure. But. Objectively, if people look at Sorsha's claim as true, she and Typh are not only safe tonight, but are cleared. We could kill Epi, yes. But I think LC is not giving out his role because he is Locke.

We'll surely talk more, but maybe this could work for us.

Scotty wrote: Yes, everyone in my eyes for sure. But. Objectively, if people look at Sorsha's claim as true, she and Typh are not only safe tonight, but are cleared.

Unless the kill failed for another reason Just because Sorsha protected Typh doesn't necessarily mean we must have tried to kill him.

Scotty wrote: We could kill Epi, yes. But I think LC is not giving out his role because he is Locke.

We'll surely talk more, but maybe this could work for us.

Hmm yeah I just remembered we think LC is Locke. In that case I say we kill him.