Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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u wot m8?"Polo wrote:It'd be much better to simply not vote for anybody on Day 1, but the mafia probably would not let us stop them from lynching a civ on first day phase.
Hope you folks put the role powers to good use tonight.
Yes, I think our relationship has progressed to the level of friendship.Black Rock wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'll probably nightkill Scotty instead. He's my other go-to option.Black Rock wrote:It might be a good idea though. How about if you're bad? Then I might die night 1 if you're not lynched first. I have to put some thought into this.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Just because I said I haven't been lynched Day 1 in a while doesn't mean the time has come again.
Seeing Illy play has brought my mood up. I like the return of old Mafia friends. I thought I'd never see her again.
Are we friends now?
I started reading this page from the beginning again. I'm here now epig, and maybe see LC's train of thought but I just saw he left a leading comment regarding me that surprised me and led to my vote.
How does this logic translate to self-voters or random-voters?Epignosis wrote:If you are bad, then I say Long Con is too. That vote doesn't strike me as compelling, and if you're not willing to lynch somebody, you shouldn't be voting that person- even on Day 1. Rather, it smells like one of those halfhearted distance votes I see all the time as a host.Black Rock wrote:I'm right at that quote but I had to go. I'm just checking in from the arena. I really can't answer that last question. I haven't caught up. Even though it's not that much. I may be on the couch tonight since I broke my first mafia rule.Epignosis wrote:There's only 13 total pages, and your last post was at the bottom of page 7, so there's only been a mere 5 pages of posts since then. The quote you pulled was posted in the middle of page 9. I must express my incredulity regarding how "so not caught up" you are.Black Rock wrote:I'm so not caught up but I'm going to place a vote on LC. When I get home I am going to read over one of his posts but I don't think I follow some of his logic.
Are you okay with Long Con being lynched today?
To me a vote says, "This is the person I am most confident in lynching."
Black Rock.
No I think lynching D1 is always better than not. I've never played a game where we don't lynch D1. Now we can look at the votes on the wagon and get some info. after NK and flips.Polo wrote:Lynching on day 1 is dumb and the probability of actually killing a mafioso instead of a civ (or even the doctor) is too low to be good. I think it's better to play it safe on day 1 and make use of the civs' night powers to find out who's mafia.
When you show me someone else who voted Long Con during the last hour, I'll let you know.Metalmarsh89 wrote:How does this logic translate to self-voters or random-voters?Epignosis wrote:If you are bad, then I say Long Con is too. That vote doesn't strike me as compelling, and if you're not willing to lynch somebody, you shouldn't be voting that person- even on Day 1. Rather, it smells like one of those halfhearted distance votes I see all the time as a host.Black Rock wrote:I'm right at that quote but I had to go. I'm just checking in from the arena. I really can't answer that last question. I haven't caught up. Even though it's not that much. I may be on the couch tonight since I broke my first mafia rule.Epignosis wrote:There's only 13 total pages, and your last post was at the bottom of page 7, so there's only been a mere 5 pages of posts since then. The quote you pulled was posted in the middle of page 9. I must express my incredulity regarding how "so not caught up" you are.Black Rock wrote:I'm so not caught up but I'm going to place a vote on LC. When I get home I am going to read over one of his posts but I don't think I follow some of his logic.
Are you okay with Long Con being lynched today?
To me a vote says, "This is the person I am most confident in lynching."
Black Rock.
This is terrible thinking. The lynch is a civilian's tool for lynching Mafia.Polo wrote:Lynching on day 1 is dumb and the probability of actually killing a mafioso instead of a civ (or even the doctor) is too low to be good. I think it's better to play it safe on day 1 and make use of the civs' night powers to find out who's mafia.
I could look, but I'd really rather not. My guess would be close to "Once."Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Epignosis wrote:Sir David Withteeth gets taken out yet again because of go-along voters.
This is what I'm talking about. If Epi were bad, he may be certain that his teammate is not getting the axe.Epignosis wrote:Oh yes. I took my vote off Dom (who had three votes) and put it on you (who had none) to save a teammate.Black Rock wrote:I voted for epig because that was a weak ass vote that I think he's hoping to generate some speed. He knows he can out talk me. One of your teammates in trouble?
Linki: I don't think I've been that good at mafia recently.
I always capitalize on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. It makes me feel big.Scotty wrote:RIP bwt.
I think Epi is bad.
I think he is capitalizing on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. I think he's hiding behind his BR vote and throwing a banana into the ring instead of his own two feet. Epignosis is Donkey Kong.
Epignosis wrote:Sir David Withteeth gets taken out yet again because of go-along voters.This is what I'm talking about. If Epi were bad, he may be certain that his teammate is not getting the axe.Epignosis wrote:Oh yes. I took my vote off Dom (who had three votes) and put it on you (who had none) to save a teammate.Black Rock wrote:I voted for epig because that was a weak ass vote that I think he's hoping to generate some speed. He knows he can out talk me. One of your teammates in trouble?
Linki: I don't think I've been that good at mafia recently.
You never made me laugh yesterday. I think I won the game of wits even though you didn't expressly commit to it.Epignosis wrote:I always capitalize on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. It makes me feel big.Scotty wrote:RIP bwt.
I think Epi is bad.
I think he is capitalizing on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. I think he's hiding behind his BR vote and throwing a banana into the ring instead of his own two feet. Epignosis is Donkey Kong.
Epignosis wrote:Sir David Withteeth gets taken out yet again because of go-along voters.This is what I'm talking about. If Epi were bad, he may be certain that his teammate is not getting the axe.Epignosis wrote:Oh yes. I took my vote off Dom (who had three votes) and put it on you (who had none) to save a teammate.Black Rock wrote:I voted for epig because that was a weak ass vote that I think he's hoping to generate some speed. He knows he can out talk me. One of your teammates in trouble?
Linki: I don't think I've been that good at mafia recently.
As for the rest of this gibberish, it's gibberish.
Oh- I didn't get your jokes because you weren't giving any away.Epignosis wrote:I'm pretty sure I won a game of wits if you didn't get any of my jokes.
are you bad thoMatt wrote:Oh man, I'm gonna get shit for this, but I still haven't caught up. Randomed between Bwt, DF, and Dom, and got Bwt. Sorry, even if you are bad Bwt
Is this not precisely what you are doing in this post?Scotty wrote:RIP bwt.
I think Epi is bad.
I think he is capitalizing on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. I think he's hiding behind his BR vote and throwing a banana into the ring instead of his own two feet. Epignosis is Donkey Kong.
Epignosis wrote:Sir David Withteeth gets taken out yet again because of go-along voters.This is what I'm talking about. If Epi were bad, he may be certain that his teammate is not getting the axe.Epignosis wrote:Oh yes. I took my vote off Dom (who had three votes) and put it on you (who had none) to save a teammate.Black Rock wrote:I voted for epig because that was a weak ass vote that I think he's hoping to generate some speed. He knows he can out talk me. One of your teammates in trouble?
Linki: I don't think I've been that good at mafia recently.
No, it is not. Because Epi is not making mistakes. He is flicking his poo finger at a person. That's slander.Dom wrote:are you bad thoMatt wrote:Oh man, I'm gonna get shit for this, but I still haven't caught up. Randomed between Bwt, DF, and Dom, and got Bwt. Sorry, even if you are bad Bwt
Is this not precisely what you are doing in this post?Scotty wrote:RIP bwt.
I think Epi is bad.
I think he is capitalizing on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. I think he's hiding behind his BR vote and throwing a banana into the ring instead of his own two feet. Epignosis is Donkey Kong.
Epignosis wrote:Sir David Withteeth gets taken out yet again because of go-along voters.This is what I'm talking about. If Epi were bad, he may be certain that his teammate is not getting the axe.Epignosis wrote:Oh yes. I took my vote off Dom (who had three votes) and put it on you (who had none) to save a teammate.Black Rock wrote:I voted for epig because that was a weak ass vote that I think he's hoping to generate some speed. He knows he can out talk me. One of your teammates in trouble?
Linki: I don't think I've been that good at mafia recently.
Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
I have to do this.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Sounds familiar.Scotty wrote:No, it is not. Because Epi is not making mistakes. He is flicking his poo finger at a person. That's slander.Dom wrote:are you bad thoMatt wrote:Oh man, I'm gonna get shit for this, but I still haven't caught up. Randomed between Bwt, DF, and Dom, and got Bwt. Sorry, even if you are bad Bwt
Is this not precisely what you are doing in this post?Scotty wrote:RIP bwt.
I think Epi is bad.
I think he is capitalizing on slight mistakes people are making that don't necessarily indict them. I think he's hiding behind his BR vote and throwing a banana into the ring instead of his own two feet. Epignosis is Donkey Kong.
Epignosis wrote:Sir David Withteeth gets taken out yet again because of go-along voters.This is what I'm talking about. If Epi were bad, he may be certain that his teammate is not getting the axe.Epignosis wrote:Oh yes. I took my vote off Dom (who had three votes) and put it on you (who had none) to save a teammate.Black Rock wrote:I voted for epig because that was a weak ass vote that I think he's hoping to generate some speed. He knows he can out talk me. One of your teammates in trouble?
Linki: I don't think I've been that good at mafia recently.
Unless he's right about BR, but that would be too easy.
MM is on my list as well as You still, Dom. Surprise surprise! It's probably a better surprise than my mom surprising me on Christmas in 1996 with my own hairbrush as a present. THAT was a shitty Christmas.
Yeah, not lynching someone on Day 1 doesn't solve any problems. You have to start the game by just diving in.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Black Rock voted for you, and when I called her out for it, she voted for me.Long Con wrote:Yeah, not lynching someone on Day 1 doesn't solve any problems. You have to start the game by just diving in.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Sucks to see BWT lynched so early again as a civ, I am down for a policy No-Lynch of him for the first couple of days in the next few games. Sorry I wasn't around for the later part of the lynch, I was busy and then I was at work. I doubt my vote would have changed anyways.
Dom, I have to look back, did anything more happen with that weird response you gave me earlier?
You're setting me up for failure, aren't you?Epignosis wrote:When you show me someone else who voted Long Con during the last hour, I'll let you know.Metalmarsh89 wrote:How does this logic translate to self-voters or random-voters?Epignosis wrote:If you are bad, then I say Long Con is too. That vote doesn't strike me as compelling, and if you're not willing to lynch somebody, you shouldn't be voting that person- even on Day 1. Rather, it smells like one of those halfhearted distance votes I see all the time as a host.Black Rock wrote:I'm right at that quote but I had to go. I'm just checking in from the arena. I really can't answer that last question. I haven't caught up. Even though it's not that much. I may be on the couch tonight since I broke my first mafia rule.Epignosis wrote:There's only 13 total pages, and your last post was at the bottom of page 7, so there's only been a mere 5 pages of posts since then. The quote you pulled was posted in the middle of page 9. I must express my incredulity regarding how "so not caught up" you are.Black Rock wrote:I'm so not caught up but I'm going to place a vote on LC. When I get home I am going to read over one of his posts but I don't think I follow some of his logic.
Are you okay with Long Con being lynched today?
To me a vote says, "This is the person I am most confident in lynching."
Black Rock.
I was in civ in that game as well; we didn't have role players in that heist, though, and you have to admit that the Day 1 lynch was simply a lucky strike. Be aware that civs have plenty of useful role powers in this game.Epignosis wrote:I have to do this.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
scratches buttEpignosis wrote:I'd never waste my time on a project that was doomed to succeed.
I was surprised at the vote. I didn't agree with the places that you tried to take it, where BR and I are on a baddie team together and she was doing a distancing vote for those purposes. You can have a look at Flash Mafia for us as baddie teammates if you like. Maybe Monopoly Mafia, if you count that as well.Epignosis wrote:Black Rock voted for you, and when I called her out for it, she voted for me.Long Con wrote:Yeah, not lynching someone on Day 1 doesn't solve any problems. You have to start the game by just diving in.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Sucks to see BWT lynched so early again as a civ, I am down for a policy No-Lynch of him for the first couple of days in the next few games. Sorry I wasn't around for the later part of the lynch, I was busy and then I was at work. I doubt my vote would have changed anyways.
Dom, I have to look back, did anything more happen with that weird response you gave me earlier?
Go.
It was huge fun.Epignosis wrote:I have to do this.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
You got big plans for me, hombré?Epignosis wrote:I want to hear from Long Con the most.
We had a cop. That got lynched D3 but still got a couple clears off. I really want to lynch every day that we can. Think about it this way. We look at the wagon on the civ if they are civ. We look at confirmed civs reads. We get the NK. We look at that person's reads to see who they suspected and try to figure out why they were killed. Later in the game, we look at VCA-vote count analysis and figure out who voted where and why to look for baddie behavior. We need the D1 lynch for the most info. Plus, what I said earlier, I will defend someone I think is town. bwt didn't give me town feels and was very null-I'm usually o.k. with lynches like that on d1 where we have next to no information to go on.Polo wrote:I was in civ in that game as well; we didn't have role players in that heist, though, and you have to admit that the Day 1 lynch was simply a lucky strike. Be aware that civs have plenty of useful role powers in this game.Epignosis wrote:I have to do this.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
I posted this in response:Long Con wrote:I was surprised at the vote. I didn't agree with the places that you tried to take it, where BR and I are on a baddie team together and she was doing a distancing vote for those purposes. You can have a look at Flash Mafia for us as baddie teammates if you like. Maybe Monopoly Mafia, if you count that as well.Epignosis wrote:Black Rock voted for you, and when I called her out for it, she voted for me.Long Con wrote:Yeah, not lynching someone on Day 1 doesn't solve any problems. You have to start the game by just diving in.Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Sucks to see BWT lynched so early again as a civ, I am down for a policy No-Lynch of him for the first couple of days in the next few games. Sorry I wasn't around for the later part of the lynch, I was busy and then I was at work. I doubt my vote would have changed anyways.
Dom, I have to look back, did anything more happen with that weird response you gave me earlier?
Go.
Maybe Black Rock had the right idea when she voted for you. Your theory was base mudslinging, and when it was pointed out that it didn't match our baddie metas, you glibly said something about good baddies not acting the same as before. That was lame.
Epignosis wrote:Neither Flash nor Monopoly were Mafia games.
"Mudslinging." Tell me what that means.
Long Con pointing to his "baddie meta" with Black Rock. No. I don't buy that. And the person who pointed it out was not a third party, but Black Rock herself, so that's not a worthwhile objection on your part.
Black Rock and Long Con have been wedded together on the grounds of Downton in holy hegemony. I hereby propose they be banished to America, or worse, Canada.
Your not imagining things. I kinda noticed it near EoD.Silverwolf wrote:Is it just my imagination or is Long Con agreeing with me a lot?
I rather lynch long conEpignosis wrote:I want to lynch Black Rock tomorrow. Who is with me in this endeavor?
If twice is a lot. If that makes you suspicious, then be sure to go back and look at the content of what I agreed with, and then look at my posts prior to the agreement, and I think you'll find that I was already saying things along those lines. Pretty sure anyway, I haven't looked back to verify any of that for sure yet.Silverwolf wrote:Is it just my imagination or is Long Con agreeing with me a lot?
Kind of dickish to say, but ok, then I don't remember the last time we were bad together.Epignosis wrote:Neither Flash nor Monopoly were Mafia games.
Mudslinging. Mud, in this context, is a substance that makes one look bad on the surface, just as mud does to your clothes. When you sling mud, you say things that are designed to make someone look bad on the surface, but does little real caring about the truth of the matter. In your case, saying that Black Rock casting a vote for me is suspicious as distancing despite our history not supporting that, and suggesting for all that we're being smart baddies and intentionally subverting our game and our meta. Because that's bullshit, it's mudslinging. I don't even think you believe it."Mudslinging." Tell me what that means.
Just keep trying to play the game.Long Con pointing to his "baddie meta" with Black Rock. No. I don't buy that. And the person who pointed it out was not a third party, but Black Rock herself, so that's not a worthwhile objection on your part.
Black Rock and Long Con have been wedded together on the grounds of Downton in holy hegemony. I hereby propose they be banished to America, or worse, Canada.
I think this is the first time I agreed with you? I was the one who originally brought up that post of DFaraday's and called it suspicious. I wasn't agreeing with you as much as you were agreeing with me, but more you were expressing an opinion that followed the same basic thought process as my own, already stated, opinion.Long Con wrote:That's a good way of putting it. The opinion about Epi is a nice safe one as well, for those who have played with Epi a lot. I'm not saying it's wrong, it's almost TOO obvious an opinion to have.Silverwolf wrote:This post is scummy due to the fact that it's an instant defense of the leading wagon.DFaraday wrote:I'm not liking so many votes on Dom already. Especially since I don't think he's done anything shady.
As for Ika's comments re: Epi, I don't agree with it. And I think the practice of policy voting people for not playing a distinctly town game, regardless of whether that person is actually bad, is itself not a town strategy.
Yeah, not lynching someone on Day 1 doesn't solve any problems. You have to start the game by just diving in./quote]Long Con wrote:Silverwolf wrote:Last game I played we lynched scum D1, D2, D4 and won the game. It can happen. If we don't lynch, it won't happen at all. Plus, the info. that can be gained from the lynch, flips is helpful for D2. Seeing voting patterns helps read players. I'm not even sure why you wouldn't want to lynch on D1 even if the odds were high it would be on a civ. Otherwise, D2 is the same as D1 with no info. except a night kill.Polo wrote:You've got a lot more experience than I do. In how many of the Day 1 lynches in the games you've been part of as a civ did you manage to lynch Mafia? Less than 20%?
Don't take it personally, it's just the truth about how I feel about Day 1 lynches.