The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:37 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:10 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:04 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:37 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:24 pm I get the sense that he was just asking for the roles he thought seemed thematically coolest, which is a pretty "Wilgy" thing to do.

I still 100% agree with nutella's choice to not give him wyvern.

hmmm

who would you have given wyvern to?

mmmm if I had to choose.... well if i had a *strong* early townread on someone then i'd give it to them. otherwise i'd give it to someone who seemed to completely not want the responsibility or risk of having a strong power role at all. if a player has especially good mafia instincts then that would be frosting but that wouldn't be the basis of my decision.

you don't think at least 1 maybe 2 mafia members are playing the idgaf what role you give me card?

oh, no that's definitely probable. I'd expect the mafia to take varied approaches to seeking roles. If all of them rushed for the good shit then it'd be super conspicuous but if they all acted super casual about it then they might end up with trash.

there's also the factor that the mafia wouldn't necessarily have to resort to begging to get at least a couple of good roles since they could just give good roles directly to each other and control their team composition that way, without having to beg.

there's only 5 scum members, so you think at least 3 of them are directly linked with each other? Because 1 gives the other and so on. Your post makes it sounds like you think more than 1 person got it that way which would incriminate 3-4 players if 2 roles were handed from scum to scum.

I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

You seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

You seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question

=)

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

plan for what exactly?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

plan for what exactly?

Making sure they're in the thread to improve their chances of getting the role they want. It's more likely that they'd do this than draft out of left field.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

plan for what exactly?

Making sure they're in the thread to improve their chances of getting the role they want. It's more likely that they'd do this than draft out of left field.

probably, if everyone was online and stayed online, but unlike what you and Kyle are saying, I don't see them giving each other all roles between them. That's too ~linky~ and wouldn't happen imo. Only a Marmot would do that.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:57 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:50 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

plan for what exactly?

Making sure they're in the thread to improve their chances of getting the role they want. It's more likely that they'd do this than draft out of left field.

probably, if everyone was online and stayed online, but unlike what you and Kyle are saying, I don't see them giving each other all roles between them. That's too ~linky~ and wouldn't happen imo. Only a Marmot would do that.

I don't think they drafted each other. When the first scum flips their draft pick is gonna wind up under scrutiny which could have been avoided. WIFOM, but whatever.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:40 pmthere's only 5 scum members, so you think at least 3 of them are directly linked with each other? Because 1 gives the other and so on. Your post makes it sounds like you think more than 1 person got it that way which would incriminate 3-4 players if 2 roles were handed from scum to scum.

no not at all. i'm just theorizing. and I don't know where "at least 3" is coming from. i doubt the mafia would rush to make a draft chain to draw the best roles all at once. i'm saying if 2 mafia were online at once and one of them were to receive their role then there'd be extra incentive for the chooser to give their buddy a beneficial role.

it's also not as simple as that either since there aren't any actual bad roles. every role has some positive utility of some kind. the only role I can't see benefiting a wolf is maybe the cavalier, and even that has some utility.

Everyone who specifically asked for a role, except for rundontwalk, got that role. Something to think about.

ColinIsCool ----- will receive last role whataever that is
dunya - Thief 1 ---- specifically asked for thief and received it
Kenway - Mage ------ specifically asked for mage and received it
Kylemii - Sage ------- specifically asked for sage and received it
Quin - Myrmidon 1 ------ specifically asked for Myrmidon and received it
lapluie - Thief 2 ------ specifically asked for thief and received it
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin -------- specifically asked for paladin and received it
gwilikers6 - Monk ----------- specifically asked for monk and received it
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2 ------ specifically asked for myrmidon and received it
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1 --------- specifically asked for Pegasus or Wyvern Rider and received the former
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman --------- specifically asked for shaman and received it
DrWilgy - Pirate -------- specifically asked for Pirate, Shaman or Wyvern Rider and received the first
Epignosis - Troubadour -------- specified he didn't care about his role, received Troubadour by Wilgy
sig - Wyvern Rider ----------- kept requesting roles already spoken for (3 roles, I believe--Mage, Shaman and Monk?), finally assigned Wyvern Rider by Epi
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1 -------- requested Wyvern Rider after dunya suggestion and petition, but was assigned cavalier by sig
MacDougall - Fighter 1 ----------- assigned Fighter by RDW without request in the thread
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2 ----------------- assigned Pegasus by MacDougall without request in the thread

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:40 pmthere's only 5 scum members, so you think at least 3 of them are directly linked with each other? Because 1 gives the other and so on. Your post makes it sounds like you think more than 1 person got it that way which would incriminate 3-4 players if 2 roles were handed from scum to scum.

no not at all. i'm just theorizing. and I don't know where "at least 3" is coming from. i doubt the mafia would rush to make a draft chain to draw the best roles all at once. i'm saying if 2 mafia were online at once and one of them were to receive their role then there'd be extra incentive for the chooser to give their buddy a beneficial role.

at least 3 is coming from this scenario:

Town ColinIsCool assigns role to Scum Marmot
Scum Marmot assigns role to Scum Quin
Scum Quin assigns role to Scum Kyle

2 roles were assigned by scum to each other, 3 scummers are linked.

Dunya you have almost 3x the number of posts of the 2nd person with the most posts.

Go to sleep lol

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:10 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:40 pmthere's only 5 scum members, so you think at least 3 of them are directly linked with each other? Because 1 gives the other and so on. Your post makes it sounds like you think more than 1 person got it that way which would incriminate 3-4 players if 2 roles were handed from scum to scum.

no not at all. i'm just theorizing. and I don't know where "at least 3" is coming from. i doubt the mafia would rush to make a draft chain to draw the best roles all at once. i'm saying if 2 mafia were online at once and one of them were to receive their role then there'd be extra incentive for the chooser to give their buddy a beneficial role.

at least 3 is coming from this scenario:

Town ColinIsCool assigns role to Scum Marmot
Scum Marmot assigns role to Scum Quin
Scum Quin assigns role to Scum Kyle

2 roles were assigned by scum to each other, 3 scummers are linked.

that scenario is not what i'm talking about. i agree it's unlikely.

im saying:
Townie A gives role 1 to Mafia A cus mafia A is online and mafia A asked for role 1
Mafia A gives power 2 to Mafia B cus mafia B is online and power 2 can benefit their team
Mafia B gives power 3 to to Townie B cus Townie B is online and asked for power 3
draft chain continues

MacDougal is mafia yall

Dunya is going WILD.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:42 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:10 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:05 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:40 pmthere's only 5 scum members, so you think at least 3 of them are directly linked with each other? Because 1 gives the other and so on. Your post makes it sounds like you think more than 1 person got it that way which would incriminate 3-4 players if 2 roles were handed from scum to scum.

no not at all. i'm just theorizing. and I don't know where "at least 3" is coming from. i doubt the mafia would rush to make a draft chain to draw the best roles all at once. i'm saying if 2 mafia were online at once and one of them were to receive their role then there'd be extra incentive for the chooser to give their buddy a beneficial role.

at least 3 is coming from this scenario:

Town ColinIsCool assigns role to Scum Marmot
Scum Marmot assigns role to Scum Quin
Scum Quin assigns role to Scum Kyle

2 roles were assigned by scum to each other, 3 scummers are linked.

that scenario is not what i'm talking about. i agree it's unlikely.

im saying:
Townie A gives role 1 to Mafia A cus mafia A is online and mafia A asked for role 1
Mafia A gives power 2 to Mafia B cus mafia B is online and power 2 can benefit their team
Mafia B gives power 3 to to Townie B cus Townie B is online and asked for power 3
draft chain continues

There's definitely a chance something like this happened, but is it really worth thinking about at this point in the game? And even when we know a scum, there'll be so much wifom to sort through, and I think Dunya's right about the way in which the draft was done kinda preventing such things from happening, to an extent at least.

97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

Here here.

I'm very embarrassed that I used the wrong form of "hear" twice, and I'm very sorry to all.

[mention]colonialbob[/mention]
[mention]sprityo[/mention]
[mention]Kites[/mention]
[mention]Marmot[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]Iron_Dwarf[/mention]
[mention]Dr. White[/mention]

The first one of you to post your decision may make Rabbit's draft choice for him.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:52 pm I'm very embarrassed that I used the wrong form of "hear" twice, and I'm very sorry to all.

Their their.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 pm 97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 pm @colonialbob
@sprityo
@Kites
@Marmot
@Long Con
@Iron_Dwarf
@Dr. White

The first one of you to post your decision may make Rabbit's draft choice for him.

I want rabbit to make me a Cleric

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 pm 97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

If you have some brilliant theory then by all means, speculate.

I don’t care to waste my time.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 pm MacDougal is mafia yall

Please tell me all about it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:07 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 pm MacDougal is mafia yall

Please tell me all about it.

MAcDougalFIA

confirmed

sprityo, the last time I saw you goofing off you were mafia in a burglary, KNAWMSAYIN?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 pm 97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

If you have some brilliant theory then by all means, speculate.

I don’t care to waste my time.

If people keep calling me brilliant I might start believing them.

I think it's bad to ignore draft mechanics I think it can be key to catching scum, even if it doesn't it allows players to talk and to gain insight from how they react. I'm not sure that I like you proclaiming that you're going to be playing a supetown game and your general posts since that proclamation, I think it's about a 60/40 chance right now that you're actually mafia.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:10 pm sprityo, the last time I saw you goofing off you were mafia in a burglary, KNAWMSAYIN?

naw b

it's logical for me to goof off because its fun, its illogical for JumpingJazzyJack to do such nonsense.

i dont have a playstyle, im just a really shitty player and yet you guys keep letting me play these games

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:11 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:51 pm 97% hunt the way you always hunt. The draft mechanic is probably more a distraction to the hunt than a guide. Grab surface insights if you see them, but don’t try to dig deep. It’s pointless.

If you have some brilliant theory then by all means, speculate.

I don’t care to waste my time.

If people keep calling me brilliant I might start believing them.

I think it's bad to ignore draft mechanics I think it can be key to catching scum, even if it doesn't it allows players to talk and to gain insight from how they react. I'm not sure that I like you proclaiming that you're going to be playing a supetown game and your general posts since that proclamation, I think it's about a 60/40 chance right now that you're actually mafia.

Your calculator is broken. I don’t give a shit what you’re sure you like.

WOW.

I think there's a 5/24 chance that Jay is cscum.

That's not even right, I'm an idiot.

dunya
Kylemii
gwilikers6
Dragon D. Luffy
nutella
sig
rundontwalk

Don’t lynch them.

The Olympic Opening Ceremony has already played "Gangam Style" at least twice.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] ISO links pls

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:07 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 pm MacDougal is mafia yall

Please tell me all about it.

He gave a strong role to somebody not in the thread and then was all "lol what's going on idk"

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 pm @colonialbob
@sprityo
@Kites
@Marmot
@Long Con
@Iron_Dwarf
@Dr. White

The first one of you to post your decision may make Rabbit's draft choice for him.

I want rabbit to make me a Cleric

Okay. Um...now it's your turn.

[mention]sprityo[/mention] don't forget you have to draft someone else's role too

I'd appreciate if mercenary and knight were put into active hands.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:22 pm Jackofhearts2005 ISO links pls

seconded :x

Sprit I'd like Pegasus Knight or Mercenary, I think.

Are there any other players here without a role?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:07 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:44 pm MacDougal is mafia yall

Please tell me all about it.

He gave a strong role to somebody not in the thread and then was all "lol what's going on idk"

Valid gripe.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:29 pm Sprit I'd like Pegasus Knight or Mercenary, I think.

Are there any other players here without a role?

colonialbob
Kites
Marmot
Iron_Dwarf
Dr. White
Long Con

still need roles

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:31 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:29 pm Sprit I'd like Pegasus Knight or Mercenary, I think.

Are there any other players here without a role?

colonialbob
Kites
Marmot
Iron_Dwarf
Dr. White
Long Con

still need roles

That colonialbob is top bants.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:49 pmThere's definitely a chance something like this happened, but is it really worth thinking about at this point in the game? And even when we know a scum, there'll be so much wifom to sort through, and I think Dunya's right about the way in which the draft was done kinda preventing such things from happening, to an extent at least.

I don't think it's worth thinking about, I was explaining my reasoning to dunya about how the mafia might try to set themselves up without drawing attention to themselves, which itself was a tangential discussion to dunya asking me what kind of player I would choose to be a wyvern rider.

at best I think the draft order can be used as support for possible player links but I don't think it should be the sole basis for suspicion on anyone unless there's something especially fucked up that demands attention.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:29 pm Sprit I'd like Pegasus Knight or Mercenary, I think.

Are there any other players here without a role?

I make Cbob a Mercenary

That's funny because I was going to say ColonialBob was mafia based on his plane taxi post. It just felt laid on thick to me. I mean I am on a tropical island 20 feet from the ocean but you didn't know that because I am genuinely distracted and disinterested whereas he had that scummy forced connectivity to the thread that makes you say unnecessary things.

Also I think RDW is a civ. Dunya is a civ. Epignosis and sig are sus. Jimmy is a civ. Colin is a civ. gwilikers6 is sus. Spirityo and nutella are civ. Kyle is a civ. Quin is sus. Rabbit is a civ. Everybody else is null. Brb fishing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:14 pm That's funny because I was going to say ColonialBob was mafia based on his plane taxi post. It just felt laid on thick to me. I mean I am on a tropical island 20 feet from the ocean but you didn't know that because I am genuinely distracted and disinterested whereas he had that scummy forced connectivity to the thread that makes you say unnecessary things.

Also I think RDW is a civ. Dunya is a civ. Epignosis and sig are sus. Jimmy is a civ. Colin is a civ. gwilikers6 is sus. Spirityo and nutella are civ. Kyle is a civ. Quin is sus. Rabbit is a civ. Everybody else is null. Brb fishing.

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