The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:28 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 pm Not a fan of Muu's talk about night kill analysis just after Juliets dying. Feels pre-emptive. The vig point is moot since there could have been no vig shot on N1 all things considered.

There literally couldn’t have been a vig kill. I have a light townread on Muu for not reading the role list. Mafia powers are centered around town roles and I think they’d be very aware of them.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:29 pm**

I misread Nova’s post but my point stands.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:30 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:28 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 pm Not a fan of Muu's talk about night kill analysis just after Juliets dying. Feels pre-emptive. The vig point is moot since there could have been no vig shot on N1 all things considered.
There literally couldn’t have been a vig kill. I have a light townread on Muu for not reading the role list. Mafia powers are centered around town roles and I think they’d be very aware of them.

couldn't*

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:31 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:29 pm I misread Nova’s post but my point stands.

There was typo in it lol, but still it's meaning was obvious

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:36 pm**

But the fewer people that go “I can’t be role x because I don’t know how that role works” the better.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:43 pm**

I can’t be a witch, I don’t know how they work.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:54 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 pm
muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

I'd say the two that come to mind are Mac for not wanting share his reasoning on wanting Sabie lynched.

Spirityo for falling the lynch I don't believe I even see any indication for a FoS

Jack D0/1 was mostly compiled with Fluff and this DP seems to be Role Fishing

I placed a vote on Mac
Tell me what specifically about my plan is bad. Cause you characterizing it as role fishing implies you think it’s a fake plan designed to out roles.

That is exactly the reasoning.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:00 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:36 pmPass.

Then I’ll pass on taking this suspicion seriously. :P

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.
we also want to limit role talk because giving the mafia any indication you are what role is suicide for the whole town

that includes speculation on dead player's roles
This sure sounds like what a Mafia would say if Lunalee was Mafia.

Disagree Mac. Talking too much about dead people’s roles could tip the witches to who Lilith is. This post looks decent for Sprit. I think the witches will want to get us talking as much as possible to try and ferret out our roles for the soup kill and also to figure out who Mordecai and Lilith are.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?

Cross our fingers. Have you never played a game with no lynch flips? I find you making me feel a littl anxious, like you seem off to me and I can’t put my finger on why.

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.

When you are identifying town reads, you’re literally eliminating suspects as mafia. This is the definition of PoE.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 pm
muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

I'd say the two that come to mind are Mac for not wanting share his reasoning on wanting Sabie lynched.

Spirityo for falling the lynch I don't believe I even see any indication for a FoS

Jack D0/1 was mostly compiled with Fluff and this DP seems to be Role Fishing

I placed a vote on Mac
Tell me what specifically about my plan is bad. Cause you characterizing it as role fishing implies you think it’s a fake plan designed to out roles.

Did I miss a plan you put forward?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:28 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 pm Not a fan of Muu's talk about night kill analysis just after Juliets dying. Feels pre-emptive. The vig point is moot since there could have been no vig shot on N1 all things considered.
There literally couldn’t have been a vig kill. I have a light townread on Muu for not reading the role list. Mafia powers are centered around town roles and I think they’d be very aware of them.

Disagree on muug. Other people have been hesitant about plans we’ve discussed and felt more like cautious civs to me. Mug feels like a wolf worried about getting trapped by civs utilizing strategy and PoE.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:04 pm**

i realize I’m suspecting muug of doing exactly the same thing Mac accused Sprit of doing but there is a different feel in muig’s posts compared to day Juliets posts yesterday or Sprit’s.

Also Jack, I feel like muug trying to point at a possible big seems like an attempt to discredit any info we could possibly gain. I think he looks bad.

Speedchuck, are votes changeable?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:05 pm**

Possible vig, not big

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:06 pm**

Juliets asked me about the role claiming to put a discovered witch and I was considering it earlier and I think it’s a bad idea. The angels can protect someone from a regular NK, but not from a soup kill. Do not claim imo.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:10 pm**

Current reads
Town:
Epi
Nova
Jack

Slight Town
Sprit

Slight Bad
Sloonei
Mac

Bad
Muug

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:28 pm**

Mac is suspicious of me for literally no reason other than that I found him sketchy and voted him last time. Or hes just bad and wants to get rid of me so I won't keep suspecting him. Spirityo didnt have anything better so he followed macs vote on me.
If it's because I haven't been here I've been going through some things irl.
Also welcome to the game sloonei.

I will have to read more when I have time.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:29 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:18 am I'll just assume we got a baddie to keep the D1 streak alive

I like your attitude. Civilian.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:29 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.

I like pie.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm**

I find it concerning that spacedaisy says she can't figure out why I seem off. She's gonna be my guinea pig the check if votes are changeable.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm**

alright cool they are

vote spacedaisy aubergine

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi

What have I done that is wacky?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna

Why should I care what brick thinks because of a tie / no-lynch? A decision had to be made. That doesn't make Mac a lock for civilian life.

You bad.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?

I've bitched. My bitching accomplished nothing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:33 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

sig isn't even playing this thing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.

You must be new here.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
I've bitched. My bitching accomplished nothing.

Perhaps today we should moan.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:35 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
What have I done that is wacky?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Why should I care what brick thinks because of a tie / no-lynch? A decision had to be made. That doesn't make Mac a lock for civilian life.

You bad.

I didn’t say lock

And i didn’t ask for your opinion

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:36 pm**

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:28 pm Mac is suspicious of me for literally no reason other than that I found him sketchy and voted him last time. Or hes just bad and wants to get rid of me so I won't keep suspecting him. Spirityo didnt have anything better so he followed macs vote on me.
If it's because I haven't been here I've been going through some things irl.
Also welcome to the game sloonei.

I will have to read more when I have time.

“It’s conplicated” - Mac

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:37 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
What have I done that is wacky?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Why should I care what brick thinks because of a tie / no-lynch? A decision had to be made. That doesn't make Mac a lock for civilian life.

You bad.
I didn’t say lock

And i didn’t ask for your opinion

Does Epi’s opinion have no value to you?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:38 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:28 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 pm Not a fan of Muu's talk about night kill analysis just after Juliets dying. Feels pre-emptive. The vig point is moot since there could have been no vig shot on N1 all things considered.
There literally couldn’t have been a vig kill. I have a light townread on Muu for not reading the role list. Mafia powers are centered around town roles and I think they’d be very aware of them.

Not reading the role list is ignorance which is easily feignable

I think your slight town read is poop, jack

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:37 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
What have I done that is wacky?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Why should I care what brick thinks because of a tie / no-lynch? A decision had to be made. That doesn't make Mac a lock for civilian life.

You bad.
I didn’t say lock

And i didn’t ask for your opinion
Does Epi’s opinion have no value to you?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:43 pm**

Well since my WiFi went out I lost my response

Basically epi shouldn’t do his “reword this to get under your skin” thing he likes to do with mac

If he wanted to ask why I think the brick lynch choice is something to look at then he should say so instead of being a prickly ass about it

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:44 pm**

Y’all gotta stop putting words in my mouth, The only thing allowed in there is food, water, and my opinions

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:45 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
I've bitched. My bitching accomplished nothing.
Perhaps today we should moan.

Maybe even complain?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:36 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:28 pm Mac is suspicious of me for literally no reason other than that I found him sketchy and voted him last time. Or hes just bad and wants to get rid of me so I won't keep suspecting him. Spirityo didnt have anything better so he followed macs vote on me.
If it's because I haven't been here I've been going through some things irl.
Also welcome to the game sloonei.

I will have to read more when I have time.
“It’s conplicated” - Mac

Mac says its complicated which translates to mac is bad and has to kill off people who suspect him in such a way that makes it look like they were actually the ones who were bad as opposed to night killing and arousing more suspicion. Or he just has to pick something and chose me.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:46 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:43 pm Well since my WiFi went out I lost my response

Basically epi shouldn’t do his “reword this to get under your skin” thing he likes to do with mac

If he wanted to ask why I think the brick lynch choice is something to look at then he should say so instead of being a prickly ass about it

Did somebody say... prickly ass?

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:56 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm I find it concerning that spacedaisy says she can't figure out why I seem off. She's gonna be my guinea pig the check if votes are changeable.

Wow. Solid reason, that one.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:57 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm I find it concerning that spacedaisy says she can't figure out why I seem off. She's gonna be my guinea pig the check if votes are changeable.

Wow. Solid reason, that one.

It should be very obvious why I seem off. Why the uncertainty?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:17 pm**

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:34 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
I've bitched. My bitching accomplished nothing.
Perhaps today we should moan.
Maybe even complain?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:36 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:28 pm Mac is suspicious of me for literally no reason other than that I found him sketchy and voted him last time. Or hes just bad and wants to get rid of me so I won't keep suspecting him. Spirityo didnt have anything better so he followed macs vote on me.
If it's because I haven't been here I've been going through some things irl.
Also welcome to the game sloonei.

I will have to read more when I have time.
“It’s conplicated” - Mac

Mac says its complicated which translates to mac is bad and has to kill off people who suspect him in such a way that makes it look like they were actually the ones who were bad as opposed to night killing and arousing more suspicion. Or he just has to pick something and chose me.

No

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:18 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:57 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm I find it concerning that spacedaisy says she can't figure out why I seem off. She's gonna be my guinea pig the check if votes are changeable.

Wow. Solid reason, that one.
It should be very obvious why I seem off. Why the uncertainty?

Because I wanted to read you again before I decided if I was jumping to conclusions.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:19 pm**

Question: Why would Mac suspect Sabie without giving a case?

Spacedaisy: Not worth thinking about

Interesting response.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:20 pm**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:57 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:30 pm I find it concerning that spacedaisy says she can't figure out why I seem off. She's gonna be my guinea pig the check if votes are changeable.

Wow. Solid reason, that one.
It should be very obvious why I seem off. Why the uncertainty?
Because I wanted to read you again before I decided if I was jumping to conclusions.

Conclusion?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:22 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:54 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 pm
muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

I'd say the two that come to mind are Mac for not wanting share his reasoning on wanting Sabie lynched.

Spirityo for falling the lynch I don't believe I even see any indication for a FoS

Jack D0/1 was mostly compiled with Fluff and this DP seems to be Role Fishing

I placed a vote on Mac
Tell me what specifically about my plan is bad. Cause you characterizing it as role fishing implies you think it’s a fake plan designed to out roles.
That is exactly the reasoning.

That doesn’t answer my question.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:22 pm**

Actually ...

If we don't get any scumflips we can't win so someone who gets info is gonna have to sacrifice themself for the greater good before the soup kill gets too influential. Thoughts?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:23 pm**

The Greater Good

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:24 pm**

The Greater Good

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:26 pm**

Wellllll

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:28 pm**

At this point I've gone too far to go back now.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:29 pm**

At a certain point in this game, anybody who holds information is going to need to assess whether it’s more valuable to share or keep it secret.

Idk what else to say on this matter.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:30 pm**

Indeed

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:31 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:32 pm**

I have probably made myself a night kill target now by alluding to having info to this extent so I think I should.

Do I have any objections?

I will let the crowd decide. Discuss it amongst yourselves.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:34 pm**

No objections. You're already too far gone.

A confirmed scum flip is worth it. It can help is navigate the game.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 pm**

I will put info in here in 5 minutes unless I hear a good reason why I shouldn't.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:38 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 pm I will put info in here in 5 minutes unless I hear a good reason why I shouldn't.

Soup?

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