The Syndicate

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:21 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pm
That had nothing to do with you pressuring me/voting me yesterday, just with dys' recounting of how yesterday went down. And it had nothing to do with me per se, it mattered because of Soneji and who they voted for.

You were still defensive even though it was just one vote.

You were saying stuff that was factually incorrect

This is probably overly harsh.

You were neglecting the context of my post, which I attempted to clear up. You did not seem to grasp what I was saying, so I attempted to explain again. At no point was I concerned about your vote, merely your reasoning.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pmIt wasn't obvious. Why the trolly/gambit? You know I'm not good at picking those up.

What does scum indiglo look like?

I just felt like it, and maybe something would happen. Cause D1 was dead as a very dead horse that was kicked for too long.

I've never played with indiglo, but imo he's clearly town here, both from play and voting.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:21 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pm
That had nothing to do with you pressuring me/voting me yesterday, just with dys' recounting of how yesterday went down. And it had nothing to do with me per se, it mattered because of Soneji and who they voted for.

You were still defensive even though it was just one vote.

You were saying stuff that was factually incorrect

You were saying that you questioned whether there were more votes on you or not, which was true.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:17 pmSo Mac is like LoMo or less WIFOMy Belli?

A mix of LoMo and Belli actually works. But usually a lot more active.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:24 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:21 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pm
That had nothing to do with you pressuring me/voting me yesterday, just with dys' recounting of how yesterday went down. And it had nothing to do with me per se, it mattered because of Soneji and who they voted for.

You were still defensive even though it was just one vote.

You were saying stuff that was factually incorrect

You were saying that you questioned whether there were more votes on you or not, which was true.

But wait that's not when I was allegedly being defensive...

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:23 pm This is probably overly harsh.

You were neglecting the context of my post, which I attempted to clear up. You did not seem to grasp what I was saying, so I attempted to explain again. At no point was I concerned about your vote, merely your reasoning.

You still seemed very defensive. I guess I'm not sure if you are speaking the truth here, but there were other wagons so it's possible that this is true.

So why were you concerned with my reasoning? I'm just one voice. What can I do?

Bob - GHT reads: Owner, Neverwhere, Epi, Kyle

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:25 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:17 pmSo Mac is like LoMo or less WIFOMy Belli?

A mix of LoMo and Belli actually works. But usually a lot more active.

Okay, I can kind of work with this.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:25 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:24 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:21 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pm
That had nothing to do with you pressuring me/voting me yesterday, just with dys' recounting of how yesterday went down. And it had nothing to do with me per se, it mattered because of Soneji and who they voted for.

You were still defensive even though it was just one vote.

You were saying stuff that was factually incorrect

You were saying that you questioned whether there were more votes on you or not, which was true.

But wait that's not when I was allegedly being defensive...

I think those were separate thoughts that were lined up. (not sure)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:28 pm Bob - GHT reads: Owner, Neverwhere, Epi, Kyle

town, null, town, town

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:27 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:23 pm This is probably overly harsh.

You were neglecting the context of my post, which I attempted to clear up. You did not seem to grasp what I was saying, so I attempted to explain again. At no point was I concerned about your vote, merely your reasoning.

You still seemed very defensive. I guess I'm not sure if you are speaking the truth here, but there were other wagons so it's possible that this is true.

So why were you concerned with my reasoning? I'm just one voice. What can I do?

Because I'm trying to find mafia, and since they have to manufacture reasoning to find civs guilty I like to poke at the reasoning people use as a way to scumhunt.

I still don't understand the Kyle wagon, and I want Kyle to post moar.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:23 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pmIt wasn't obvious. Why the trolly/gambit? You know I'm not good at picking those up.

What does scum indiglo look like?

I just felt like it, and maybe something would happen. Cause D1 was dead as a very dead horse that was kicked for too long.

I've never played with indiglo, but imo he's clearly town here, both from play and voting.

Your semi-lack of cat pictures worries me, but it could be the different culture over here. It could make cats less acceptable...idk why. Why aren't there more cats?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:32 pm Because I'm trying to find mafia, and since they have to manufacture reasoning to find civs guilty I like to poke at the reasoning people use as a way to scumhunt.

I do think I like your current activity though.

Maybe, we got a lurky scum team. That could maybe explain the nutella kill.

But that's still speculation/wifom that won't go much of anywhere.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:33 pmYour semi-lack of cat pictures worries me, but it could be the different culture over here. It could make cats less acceptable...idk why. Why aren't there more cats?

PerC is more gifable.
Have you read the whole game?

Let's try this

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:36 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:33 pmYour semi-lack of cat pictures worries me, but it could be the different culture over here. It could make cats less acceptable...idk why. Why aren't there more cats?

PerC is more gifable.
Have you read the whole game?

I remember seeing 1 cat picture. There was a cat and another cat in a box and you said something to Sloonmeister.

I want to say I've read it all, but I feel like I probably missed something. So it probably wouldn't hurt to reread it again. But that's probably after lunch and dinner and work

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:37 pm Let's try this

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine Kyle isn't doing anything. And I am feeling a little bit better on bob. Sloonei's vote for bob wasn't anything special.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:38 pmI remember seeing 1 cat picture. There was a cat and another cat in a box and you said something to Sloonmeister.

I want to say I've read it all, but I feel like I probably missed something. So it probably wouldn't hurt to reread it again. But that's probably after lunch and dinner and work

It's fine, it's just I think it's pretty safe to say indiglo is town from the Soneji lynch. And would expect you to think the same of me. And I'm confused about the Kyle vote, since Soneji was voting him to get up to a three way tie not long before EoD. I just wondered if you had read the stuff around the lynch.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:42 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:38 pmI remember seeing 1 cat picture. There was a cat and another cat in a box and you said something to Sloonmeister.

I want to say I've read it all, but I feel like I probably missed something. So it probably wouldn't hurt to reread it again. But that's probably after lunch and dinner and work

It's fine, it's just I think it's pretty safe to say indiglo is town from the Soneji lynch. And would expect you to think the same of me. And I'm confused about the Kyle vote, since Soneji was voting him to get up to a three way tie not long before EoD. I just wondered if you had read the stuff around the lynch.

I didn't even look at who Soneji was voting for. I guess with Ultra and JJJ distancing so well in the recent MU Season 6 Scrimmage game it wasn't top priority of things I should analyze.

JJJ bussed Ultra day 1 in that game. Ultra's vote was left on JJJ. We didn't lynch JJJ even though he was left alive too long and mafia won the game. feelsbadman

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:33 pm I still don't understand the Kyle wagon, and I want Kyle to post moar.

I'm at work, my dude

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:25 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:24 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:21 pm

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:19 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:16 pm
That had nothing to do with you pressuring me/voting me yesterday, just with dys' recounting of how yesterday went down. And it had nothing to do with me per se, it mattered because of Soneji and who they voted for.

You were still defensive even though it was just one vote.

You were saying stuff that was factually incorrect

You were saying that you questioned whether there were more votes on you or not, which was true.

But wait that's not when I was allegedly being defensive...

Any player can be defensive.

It takes a special kind of player to be defensive about whether or not he's being defensive.

Is it a wolf kind of player?

There are far less cat pictures than expected, Owner is right.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:06 pm There are far less cat pictures than expected, Owner is right.

:3c

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:25 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:09 pm @speedchuck you have played a lot with Owner? If yes, have you seen anything hinky out of her so far?

Owner is usually a big question mark for me, and she still is. Her hunting style is weird. She suspects people for the gifs they use, their avatar changes, and the jokes they make.

It always comes off as nonsense to people that haven't played with her, and often develops into a scumread.

That said, I don't know the difference between town and scum Owner, so I'm not defending her with this either. Just giving context.

Thank you for this

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:37 pm Let's try this

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine Kyle isn't doing anything. And I am feeling a little bit better on bob. Sloonei's vote for bob wasn't anything special.

I'm a little confused why you moved your vote off of me for not doing anything, was the goal of your vote on me to get a reaction about it, rather than an actual declaration of suspicion?

no one is around to talk during my lunch break and that is suspicious as hell honestly.

you are all mafia

Hi Kyle!

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:29 pmHi Kyle!

hey :3

Hi, Kyle!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:32 pmHi, Kyle!

Hey :3

Kyle, do you suspect any of your voters, either today or yesterday? Your Soneji vote was a good look for you, do you have any teammate ideas?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:36 pm Kyle, do you suspect any of your voters, either today or yesterday? Your Soneji vote was a good look for you, do you have any teammate ideas?

I don't suspect Mac or Epi. Mac's behavior is pretty typical for him. And I think epignosis seems like he's questioning me from a position of good faith.

I was irked by owner earlier but having read their recent posts they seem to be casting a wide net and putting work into getting feels on people and I like that but I want to see more and also hear answers to my questions(s?) still to know whether that's genuine or a performance.

I want to look at and question speedchuck still but it will have to wait til later

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:41 pmI was irked by owner earlier but having read their recent posts they seem to be casting a wide net

Owner "casting a wide net" was the exact phrasing that was used to describe why she was read town in the last game we played together. In other words, Owner is most likely town. [Insert tinfoil about Owner/Kyle team]

Owner had their vote on you earlier, Kyle, following Epi and Sloonei's votes... now she has followed Dys's Sloonei vote. Maybe that's "casting a wide net", or maybe it's looking for a train to push all the way.

I'm not sold about Epi, but I don't know if I can articulate why.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:46 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:41 pmI was irked by owner earlier but having read their recent posts they seem to be casting a wide net

Owner "casting a wide net" was the exact phrasing that was used to describe why she was read town in the last game we played together. In other words, Owner is most likely town. [Insert tinfoil about Owner/Kyle team]

Didn't get the linki on this. This is Owner's town game, then... what does Owner's scum game look like?

So, Diz, you think it's three scum total?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:49 pmDidn't get the linki on this. This is Owner's town game, then... what does Owner's scum game look like?

More narrow. Not actually trying to think about all kinds of angles.
I probably don't read Owner perfectly, but I'm not bad at it. Likely town imo.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:50 pm So, Diz, you think it's three scum total?

I actually haven't thought about that at all. 13 players in the game. Could be 3 or 4 mafia. Maybe 3 mafia and some sort of 3p. OP mentions cultist.....

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:49 pmDidn't get the linki on this. This is Owner's town game, then... what does Owner's scum game look like?

More narrow. Not actually trying to think about all kinds of angles.
I probably don't read Owner perfectly, but I'm not bad at it. Likely town imo.

It was your very recent game together that Owner publicly got town cred for "casting a wide net". You have no concerns that she might be emulating this praised behaviour?

Soneji voters: Kyle, Cbob, Nutella, Dizzy, Indiglo

Anyone know the vote order offhand? Save me some lookback.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:56 pmIt was your very recent game together that Owner publicly got town cred for "casting a wide net". You have no concerns that she might be emulating this praised behaviour?

Kind of. But it's also the case that town!Owner is just town!Owner. There are things that are hard to change about your meta, even if you know about it. I certainly have things like that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:57 pm Soneji voters: Kyle, Cbob, Nutella, Dizzy, Indiglo

Anyone know the vote order offhand? Save me some lookback.

Dizzy, indiglo, nutella, cbob/kyle - don't know who voted first of the last two.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:57 pm Soneji voters: Kyle, Cbob, Nutella, Dizzy, Indiglo

Anyone know the vote order offhand? Save me some lookback.

Dizzy, indiglo, nutella, cbob/kyle - don't know who voted first of the last two.

You look pretty town from that, I have to say. You started the Soneji lynch.

Alright champs game over time to fuck

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:46 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:41 pmI was irked by owner earlier but having read their recent posts they seem to be casting a wide net

Owner "casting a wide net" was the exact phrasing that was used to describe why she was read town in the last game we played together. In other words, Owner is most likely town. [Insert tinfoil about Owner/Kyle team]

I know, that's not the part that irked me. The wide net observation only happened after the irkedness

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:36 pm Alright champs game over time to fuck

what i mean is: when I read owners vote post for me, I viewed that as a shady action because in isolation it looked strange and opportunistic, but seeing as that was part of a process rather than a full conclusion. that context as well as speedchuck's testimony abt owner's history makes me feel less suspicious of owner.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:36 pm Alright champs game over time to fuck

Well ffuck