The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:08 pm [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

also confirming these can be changed

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:25 pm New poll.

Favourite spread:

-Strawberry jam
-Marmalade
-Peanut Butter
-Marmite
-Vegemite

...think that covers it.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:07 pm

Spoiler: show

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:29 pm Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

Right, me being annoyed at you SRing me for literally no other reason than “I don’t know what Nanook’s town game looks like” makes me hella toxic. Ok.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:11 pm Oh and my meh read of Jay was based around his first few posts which didn't appear genuine and some gut tone reads. He's looking a wee bit better now, as in I won't pursue it since not much to go off of, but he's one of those players that needs to be watched and if he's alive for to long should probably be lynched

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:13 pm Is there hammer in this game?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:42 pm Okay, serious attempt at self-analysis and then I'm going to bed. (GMT, fyi.)

I've definitely evolved my style over the years, and activity/engagement will vary game to game, but generally as town I rely on analysing votes and wagons (and therefore hate D1/spend it town-clearing more so than anything). I like to re-read the flow of the thread at certain points (e.g. as wagons form/EoDs) rather than ISO individual players, though of course I do that too sometimes. It's time-consuming, though, so when I'm busy (as I am these days) I will rely more on waiting for posts to ping me and then hounding that player.

As scum I'm not afraid to bus to keep up any town cred I've gained, but otherwise try to keep my game simple and sneak into a towncore by trying to play to my town meta. If I don't succeed in that, I'm a fairly useless scummate and quite easy to find. But if I do succeed I'm pretty decent at deepwolfing, I like to think.

As indy I just make it up as I go, as Jay and Sloonei can confirm.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 pm Like am I crazy here or is this a potential slip.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:05 pm Speculation: juliets could still be a baddie. Nothing except 'she's played well' disqualifies her.

But I don't have the energy nor commitment to look there.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:00 pm @MacDougall, what are you doing

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 pm Like am I crazy here or is this a potential slip.

@MacDougall
@Epignosis

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:20 pm "Epi, why?"

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:42 pm Okay, serious attempt at self-analysis and then I'm going to bed. (GMT, fyi.)

I've definitely evolved my style over the years, and activity/engagement will vary game to game, but generally as town I rely on analysing votes and wagons (and therefore hate D1/spend it town-clearing more so than anything). I like to re-read the flow of the thread at certain points (e.g. as wagons form/EoDs) rather than ISO individual players, though of course I do that too sometimes. It's time-consuming, though, so when I'm busy (as I am these days) I will rely more on waiting for posts to ping me and then hounding that player.

As scum I'm not afraid to bus to keep up any town cred I've gained, but otherwise try to keep my game simple and sneak into a towncore by trying to play to my town meta. If I don't succeed in that, I'm a fairly useless scummate and quite easy to find. But if I do succeed I'm pretty decent at deepwolfing, I like to think.

As indy I just make it up as I go, as Jay and Sloonei can confirm.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:51 pm Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

I hosted All My Circuits

I knew that.

what I meant to say was from a hosts perspective.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:16 pm Like am I crazy here or is this a potential slip.

@MacDougall
@Epignosis

Cliffs plz

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:11 pm Oh and my meh read of Jay was based around his first few posts which didn't appear genuine and some gut tone reads. He's looking a wee bit better now, as in I won't pursue it since not much to go off of, but he's one of those players that needs to be watched and if he's alive for to long should probably be lynched

what changed

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:38 pm Completely irrelevant, but I want to share this glorious discovery. I have long sought the Holy Grail of sandwich theory: finding a sensible means of including a sub as a sandwich but not a hot dog. This would align with intuitions, but logical structure stands in the way. Consider a historical and evolutionary perspective.

I think that we can somewhat safely assume that the sub came before the hot dog, given that a sub can be comprised of anything within a bread loaf (loaves date back millennia). A hot dog specifically features that meat-thing of processed mystery only made possible by modern industrial ingenuity. So it could be that the hot dog is the offspring of the sub.

However, given the American cultural parallel, it seems equally plausible at least that the hot dog is the offspring of the burger -- another meat-thing-emphasized bread food. As such, perhaps the burger and the sub are a sort of *parents* to the hot dog. If so, and if we accept the burger and the sub as sandwiches then surely the hot dog must be too?

Not so fast. Consider the basics of heredity in biology. The offspring inherits half the genes of each parent, and only the *dominant* genes are expressed. Could it be that the sub and the burger both feature a dominant *sandwich* gene and secondary alternative gene(s)? If so, imagine what happens when each of them passes the ALTERNATIVE gene down to the hot dog.

There is no sandwich gene. It is something else entirely. THIS IS IT.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:04 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:51 pm Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

I hosted All My Circuits

I knew that.

what I meant to say was from a hosts perspective.

I don't remember too much. But I literally do not think I've ever seen nanook's town game before. At one point a few weeks ago we were in two games concurrently as scum partners, and then he was scum again in the game that I hosted. So I don't consider myself an expert on reading nanook. I can say there are similarities between the present version of nanook and those past versions, but I can't say how much of that is alignment indicative as opposed to just being his personality.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

Reasoning for reads?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:32 pm NANOOK in Inception, civilian

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pmrainbow

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:41 pm Really though Mac, I draw zero inspiration from calling you an orange boy given that you've done nothing. Show me that I don't have to default.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:51 pm Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

I hosted All My Circuits

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:29 pm Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:51 pm Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:32 pm NANOOK in Inception, civilian

I shared this because ~I think~ a few people had expressed that they don't know town Nanook. There's an example. As I look over it now and try to draw comparisons, I find it difficult without needing to reach into barrels of supposition that bore me. Nanook strikes me as the type to approach games with a consistent general personality -- silly, half-engaged, and/or chatty. That applies to him in every game I've seen I think save maybe Chess (but that game was puny). So instead of attempting to play meta I am inclined to just assess Nanook at face value. I don't feel great about his reception of sig's pokes; there's a "he's right but the reason he's right is really dumb" kind of smell wafting from it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:30 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:38 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:29 pm Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:51 pm Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

sig is going HAM.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:30 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:06 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:49 pm Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.

This is horseshit.

We're not looking for teammates.

Congratulations you’ve identified the joke

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:53 pm Suspects:
Nanook
Michelle
Nutella (maybe)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:54 pm Like Nutella is playing what I would expect from her if she tried really hard to mimic her town game.

Or she’s just town.

Like she’s hitting her scumtell a and her towntells.