The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:18 am I agree on that.
Do you think his tone has been particularly serious?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:16 am

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:08 am Good for you then sloonz

Are you always this lazy?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:18 am I agree on that.
Do you think his tone has been particularly serious?

No, I wouldn't characterize his play as either too serious or too jokey. I kind of wrote this accusation off because old schoolers like the three of us come from games where shitposting was not a thing. So it's not surprising for one of to throw out an actual accusation on Day 1.

The only thing that keeps me from calling him null is probably that accusation.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am I take it linki has been disabled. Well this should be fun.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade

by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am I take it linki has been disabled. Well this should be fun.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:28 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade

by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:28 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade

by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.

idk how to explain it succinctly

basically; the fact Jess is explaining herself in the way she is, makes me feel like her emotions are genuine, rather than an attempt to get pressure off herself

Mostly because she's not really under enough pressure for me to believe that scum!Jess would need to give what amounts to AtE to get that pressure off her, and rather it feels like town!Jess expressing how she's actually feeling

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:28 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:19 am i've been a little defensive/cagey about it in the last page or so because i've felt that i've been answering the exact same questions for the last 7 pages. it's a point that feels so nitpicky and semantic to me, so for it to be a heavy focus for multiple people is a little bit grating, especially since i tend to get overly focused on the pressure on me in the early game (which tends to make the situation worse, lol)

i asked you that question because your progression toward me rubbed me the wrong way a little bit. you came into the thread with a piggyback of a suspicion that sloonei had already outed - but then you misunderstood the reasons for his suspicion, and then still doubled down even when you got corrected. when i paired that with the fact that i felt i had already gone into detail about that progression already, it made me concerned that your scumhunting was coming from a shallow place. it wasn't an actual scumread though - moreso just me getting pinged in the moment and wanting to see how you reacted to shade

by the way, Jess (spf) being sort of destabilized in a sense from the game because of getting pressured as town is a real thing. She's mentioned it as town a ~couple times before, so definitely could do it again as mafia to sort of level her play/say a "towny" thing ig, but the fact she's not under any, kinda, *real* threat here makes me feel like it's not just an excuse/attempt to get pressure off herself, but a real statement

Unsure how confident I am on this

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this.

idk how to explain it succinctly

basically; the fact Jess is explaining herself in the way she is, makes me feel like her emotions are genuine, rather than an attempt to get pressure off herself

Mostly because she's not really under enough pressure for me to believe that scum!Jess would need to give what amounts to AtE to get that pressure off her, and rather it feels like town!Jess expressing how she's actually feeling

You seem to know spf better than I do.
What do you think of her accusation of me?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am I take it linki has been disabled. Well this should be fun.

The people have spoken, and linki is basically a thing of the past now.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

huh? you asked me to explain why i got pinged by you, and i did. why are you framing my answer to your question as me choosing to accuse you? i'm pretty confused by this post, tbh

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

can you explain this a bit more

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 am i got the reactions that i wanted. it felt a little mean to continue hiding my reads when my refusal to out them had become a focal point of conversation, and when it was directly annoying someone that i had started townreading from it (foresight)

are you wolf that's piggybacking off of sloonei's argument

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:54 am i got the reactions that i wanted. it felt a little mean to continue hiding my reads when my refusal to out them had become a focal point of conversation, and when it was directly annoying someone that i had started townreading from it (foresight)

are you wolf that's piggybacking off of sloonei's argument

this one? It's kinda meh, but I don't really scum read it

btw, can you say why you asked me?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

huh? you asked me to explain why i got pinged by you, and i did. why are you framing my answer to your question as me choosing to accuse you? i'm pretty confused by this post, tbh

You accused me.
You didn't really pursue that. Or try and investigate those thoughts. Now you're asking why I'm asking you about your accusation?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

huh? you asked me to explain why i got pinged by you, and i did. why are you framing my answer to your question as me choosing to accuse you? i'm pretty confused by this post, tbh

You accused me.
You didn't really pursue that. Or try and investigate those thoughts. Now you're asking why I'm asking you about your accusation?

you asked me why i got pinged by you. i explained why i got pinged by you. my read on you naturally softened once i realized that i reacted a bit too strongly to your initial post (which i'll expand on when i answer sloonei's question in a moment), and i've been dialoguing with you for the last ~20 minutes in part to get a better read on you. i am straight up confused by this line of questioning

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

can you explain this a bit more

my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:36 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

His reads look natural, and he looks like he's actually trying despite using a gimmick. One which I am totally enjoying ftr.

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:38 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am I was not actually misunderstanding. I was miscommunicating. I knew what sloonei meant. I just didn't express myself correctly. I stated this, however, very clearly.
Any reason you're trying to make this about me?

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

huh? you asked me to explain why i got pinged by you, and i did. why are you framing my answer to your question as me choosing to accuse you? i'm pretty confused by this post, tbh

You accused me.
You didn't really pursue that. Or try and investigate those thoughts. Now you're asking why I'm asking you about your accusation?

you asked me why i got pinged by you. i explained why i got pinged by you. my read on you naturally softened once i realized that i reacted a bit too strongly to your initial post (which i'll expand on when i answer sloonei's question in a moment), and i've been dialoguing with you for the last ~20 minutes in part to get a better read on you. i am straight up confused by this line of questioning

You're confused that I am interested in your lazy accusations?

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

can you explain this a bit more

my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me

can I ask what differences between Sloonei and myself causes the difference in confidence between a town lean and a town read?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:38 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:24 am

you asked me to explain why i found your post suspicious, did you not?

I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

huh? you asked me to explain why i got pinged by you, and i did. why are you framing my answer to your question as me choosing to accuse you? i'm pretty confused by this post, tbh

You accused me.
You didn't really pursue that. Or try and investigate those thoughts. Now you're asking why I'm asking you about your accusation?

you asked me why i got pinged by you. i explained why i got pinged by you. my read on you naturally softened once i realized that i reacted a bit too strongly to your initial post (which i'll expand on when i answer sloonei's question in a moment), and i've been dialoguing with you for the last ~20 minutes in part to get a better read on you. i am straight up confused by this line of questioning

You're confused that I am interested in your lazy accusations?

from my point of view, the exchange just went like:

Dom: why did you suspect me?

SPF: here's why i suspect you

Dom: whoa, why are you focusing on accusing me?

SPF: i'm not focusing on you - i was answering your question

Dom: why aren't you focused on accusing me more?

like....i am not trying to be obtuse or snarky - i am just totally baffled by this line of questioning and i think it might be a good idea if we dropped it

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:41 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

can you explain this a bit more

my understanding is that your scum game is fairly rigid and focused on asserting specific agendas/narratives within the thread - i haven't felt at all like you've been trying to reinforce any specific narratives with your approach in this game. you made a post defending me and then immediately made a post pointing out something about me that you find suspicious. you came into the game w/a slightly aggressive push on sloonei, and then your tone toward him subtly softened after you had an exchange. you've been pushy about getting people to acknowledge your long con read, but in a way that feels more like it stems from the frustration of being unheard and not because you want long con to perceived in a specific way

it just feels agenda-free, and i usually take that as a good sign for you. this post made me re-skim your iso, and i will say that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&p=736533#p736533 made me a little nervous lol - made me wonder if that post was a roundabout way of trying to pocket me, by playing up your concern about me

can I ask what differences between Sloonei and myself causes the difference in confidence between a town lean and a town read?

i feel that i have a stronger baseline for how sloonei approaches the game as wolf vs town (since i played in 2 champs games with him and then wolfed in one game with him), whereas my read on you is partially predicated on meta that is mainly guesswork

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:41 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:38 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:37 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:30 am @Spacedaisy
You said I'm coming in hot. You just gassing me up?

Nah, I liked it. You came in playing and it was a serious townlook. Feel confident most confident in you and Epi atm.

I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:32 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:27 am
I did.
Why was the opportunity to explain yourself turned into an opportunity to accuse an accuser? Can you substantiate yourself or were you hoping that I'm an easy target?

huh? you asked me to explain why i got pinged by you, and i did. why are you framing my answer to your question as me choosing to accuse you? i'm pretty confused by this post, tbh

You accused me.
You didn't really pursue that. Or try and investigate those thoughts. Now you're asking why I'm asking you about your accusation?

you asked me why i got pinged by you. i explained why i got pinged by you. my read on you naturally softened once i realized that i reacted a bit too strongly to your initial post (which i'll expand on when i answer sloonei's question in a moment), and i've been dialoguing with you for the last ~20 minutes in part to get a better read on you. i am straight up confused by this line of questioning

You're confused that I am interested in your lazy accusations?

from my point of view, the exchange just went like:

Dom: why did you suspect me?

SPF: here's why i suspect you

Dom: whoa, why are you focusing on accusing me?

SPF: i'm not focusing on you - i was answering your question

Dom: why aren't you focused on accusing me more?

like....i am not trying to be obtuse or snarky - i am just totally baffled by this line of questioning and i think it might be a good idea if we dropped it

"It might be good if the person who is accusing me just dropped it"

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:36 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

His reads look natural, and he looks like he's actually trying despite using a gimmick. One which I am totally enjoying ftr.

Do you understand this business about KZA then?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:43 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:36 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:34 am I'm not leaning any way on Epi. Why are you?

His reads look natural, and he looks like he's actually trying despite using a gimmick. One which I am totally enjoying ftr.

Do you understand this business about KZA then?

I mean I understand what he's saying, but I think it's misplaced. I can at once say, "I think everything you just said is crap, but I would at least like to see how the other person respond to it" There is nothing suspicious in that to me. the more people talk to easier it is to get reads on them. I don't think it was a case worth following. Even if I think it originated with a civ.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

he might just be town too

i think most of the issue i take with dom stems from a difference in mindset and playstyle moreso than it does alignment

i find his style of questioning confusing/incredibly unclear - but not necessarily wolfy. i think i'm pretty decent at telling when pushes on me are happening in bad faith or good faith, and i don't get the sense that dom's line of questioning is stemming from bad faith - i can practically hear him cackling behind his keyboard as he types the "gotchas", and i can believe that he believes what he's saying even if it's difficult for me to wrap my head around

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

he might just be town too

i think most of the issue i take with dom stems from a difference in mindset and playstyle moreso than it does alignment

i find his style of questioning confusing/incredibly unclear - but not necessarily wolfy. i think i'm pretty decent at telling when pushes on me are happening in bad faith or good faith, and i don't get the sense that dom's line of questioning is stemming from bad faith - i can practically hear him cackling behind his keyboard as he types the "gotchas", and i can believe that he believes what he's saying even if it's difficult for me to wrap my head around

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:47 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

he might just be town too

i think most of the issue i take with dom stems from a difference in mindset and playstyle moreso than it does alignment

i find his style of questioning confusing/incredibly unclear - but not necessarily wolfy. i think i'm pretty decent at telling when pushes on me are happening in bad faith or good faith, and i don't get the sense that dom's line of questioning is stemming from bad faith - i can practically hear him cackling behind his keyboard as he types the "gotchas", and i can believe that he believes what he's saying even if it's difficult for me to wrap my head around

Again, if your goal is mutual understanding-- how is this helping you get there?

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:47 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

he might just be town too

i think most of the issue i take with dom stems from a difference in mindset and playstyle moreso than it does alignment

i find his style of questioning confusing/incredibly unclear - but not necessarily wolfy. i think i'm pretty decent at telling when pushes on me are happening in bad faith or good faith, and i don't get the sense that dom's line of questioning is stemming from bad faith - i can practically hear him cackling behind his keyboard as he types the "gotchas", and i can believe that he believes what he's saying even if it's difficult for me to wrap my head around

Again, if your goal is mutual understanding-- how is this helping you get there?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:50 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:47 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:45 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:25 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:23 am i townlean esooa

What about Dom?

he might just be town too

i think most of the issue i take with dom stems from a difference in mindset and playstyle moreso than it does alignment

i find his style of questioning confusing/incredibly unclear - but not necessarily wolfy. i think i'm pretty decent at telling when pushes on me are happening in bad faith or good faith, and i don't get the sense that dom's line of questioning is stemming from bad faith - i can practically hear him cackling behind his keyboard as he types the "gotchas", and i can believe that he believes what he's saying even if it's difficult for me to wrap my head around

Again, if your goal is mutual understanding-- how is this helping you get there?

What is your goal?