The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:38 am**

Fuck me I don't know if I should actually do this.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:40 am**

Fuck it I'm BloodSealer's Skeletal.

I'm not getting yeeted fam.

And if you yeet me at this rate then y'all deserve to lose.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:40 am**

So yeah I'm the PR.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:42 am**

I don't see anything on the rules that says there's no claiming allowed, if there is I've missed it entirely and I've tried to ctrl+f the word "claim" in there.

There's an anticlaim and I'm probably just getting hit at that rate. Oh well.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:43 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:22 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:19 am I mean if Nutella is going to just tunnel me and refuse to try to find me as town, I'm more than happy sitting back and letting her die.

She needs to learn her lesson.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:59 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:43 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:22 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:19 am I mean if Nutella is going to just tunnel me and refuse to try to find me as town, I'm more than happy sitting back and letting her die.

She needs to learn her lesson.

This is the single-most-wofiest-post I've ever seen.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:00 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:59 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:43 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:22 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:19 am I mean if Nutella is going to just tunnel me and refuse to try to find me as town, I'm more than happy sitting back and letting her die.

She needs to learn her lesson.

This is the single-most-wofiest-post I've ever seen.

Vote me then.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:04 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:00 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:59 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:43 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:22 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:19 am I mean if Nutella is going to just tunnel me and refuse to try to find me as town, I'm more than happy sitting back and letting her die.

She needs to learn her lesson.

This is the single-most-wofiest-post I've ever seen.
Vote me then.

What do you think of my Nutella read?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:12 am**

Nothing?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:18 am**

Lol lame. Next time just be towny instead of outing.

I wouldn't mind Epi getting some heat since he's just chosen to be annoying as well.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:19 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:18 am Lol lame. Next time just be towny instead of outing.

I wouldn't mind Epi getting some heat since he's just chosen to be annoying as well.

I literally was. That was on you, not me.

Like I said before, if you're town, learn to take accountability.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:21 am**

Like literally, if you're town, then I read you correctly in the early going.

You scumread me and it went on and on when I was in my obvious town meta.

It's on you, not me at that rate.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:21 am**

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:28 am
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:17 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:49 am Marmot
Scotty

Epignosis

Thunal

SVS

Dyslexicon
Rico
Kate
Falcon

Syn

Nutella
Why is Epi that high and Syn that low?
I believe that Epi accidentally vote-locked, and IMO if that is true, it likely means town!Epi. It could have been faked, but I just don't see it.

I got the jeebeist of all the heebies from their recent rainbow list, and I don't really believe their push on you/Scotty, and aside from that they've done nothing of merit.
I don't see why accidentally vote locking means town Epi. Scum Epi could forget the rules too.

This post makes me suspect Thunal.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:21 am**

Nope, done with that. You could have done that all differently, it was your choice.

Move on. There's probably a hit in Epi vs Dizzy?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:23 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:18 am Lol lame. Next time just be towny instead of outing.

I wouldn't mind Epi getting some heat since he's just chosen to be annoying as well.

I'd flip this.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:23 am**

Okay then I'll just target you during the night phase and whether or not my PR mate wants you to die is up to them.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:24 am**

I'm 100% for yeeting Nutella also. Stamp of approval.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:24 am**

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:25 am**

Don't particularly care if I'm the d1 at this point. I'm tired of being blamed for someone else's bad play. I think Epi, Dizzy, and Thunal are all reasonable places to look next.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:32 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:25 am Don't particularly care if I'm the d1 at this point. I'm tired of being blamed for someone else's bad play. I think Epi, Dizzy, and Thunal are all reasonable places to look next.

How would it be on me? Literally answer that.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:32 am**

Dizzy and Thunal are probably town btw don't yeet them.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:33 am**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:23 am Okay then I'll just target you during the night phase and whether or not my PR mate wants you to die is up to them.

I almost wrote: "As someone whom may be the "you" in this statement, can you clarify..."

But then I read.

Lime, you are crucial. You need to name someone by EoD as marked.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:35 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:33 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:23 am Okay then I'll just target you during the night phase and whether or not my PR mate wants you to die is up to them.
I almost wrote: "As someone whom may be the "you" in this statement, can you clarify..."

But then I read.

Lime, you are crucial. You need to name someone by EoD as marked.

it does not matter, wolves will just RB him

LC you have a handful of posts left, pls don't spend them arguing with nutella for no reason

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:35 am**

Won't wolves just be able to block him

Lmao claiming in this setup was sp fucking stupid I'm out.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:39 am**

I have my limited posts I'll use them sparingly.

Townread:
Dizzy
Syn
Thunal
SVS

My main townreads, I won't be targetting them at all.

I'll try to narrow down more before deadline.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am**

LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am**

We lost at rand but not because of whoever the mafia are but because pr randed to someone who decided to just throw. Really great stuff why do I bother.

No it is not on me that he felt pressured to claim. He had so many opportunities to play the game productively and chose not to.

Whatever. Hammer me. I'm done here. Enjoy the personal blacklist brad if i bother to play games anyway

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:42 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am We lost at rand but not because of whoever the mafia are but because pr randed to someone who decided to just throw. Really great stuff why do I bother.

No it is not on me that he felt pressured to claim. He had so many opportunities to play the game productively and chose not to.

Whatever. Hammer me. I'm done here. Enjoy the personal blacklist brad if i bother to play games anyway

It's not as big of a deal as it feels at the moment, tbh. You have three posts left also. Pls do not cap yet

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:46 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am We lost at rand but not because of whoever the mafia are but because pr randed to someone who decided to just throw. Really great stuff why do I bother.

No it is not on me that he felt pressured to claim. He had so many opportunities to play the game productively and chose not to.

Whatever. Hammer me. I'm done here. Enjoy the personal blacklist brad if i bother to play games anyway

Literally it's locked votes and two are on me while the rest are sprawled out.

I made my reads, I explained them.

YOU are the one that decided to scumread me and not re-evaluate as the game went along.

You refused to try to reason or talk to me regarding your read on me.

I read you correctly.

You misread me.

It's not on me, it's on you.

Accountability Nutella, learn it.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:48 am**

Drop it, please. Neither of you gain anything from this except burning post cap. Let's move on and do something productive.

I am inclined to think Nutella is a villager here, so this is likely just t/t violence. It's D1. We have room. Assume the best of each other and help us catch a wolf.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 am**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.

You offer a large palate of names. Do you have any preferences among the 7?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:52 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 am
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.
You offer a large palate of names. Do you have any preferences among the 7?

not being able to vote thunal kinda sucks ngl

I want the people who sus you to tell me why you're bad. I was town-reading the contrarianism earlier

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:53 am**

otherwise I guess I'm left with scotty??

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:55 am**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 am
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.
You offer a large palate of names. Do you have any preferences among the 7?
not being able to vote thunal kinda sucks ngl

I want the people who sus you to tell me why you're bad. I was town-reading the contrarianism earlier

You wolf like I do. Fun.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:56 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:55 am
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:49 am
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 am LC (2): Falcon, Nutella
Seanzie (1): LC
Thunal (1): Epi

Hasn't Voted: Dizzy, Marmot, Rico, Scotty, Seanzie, SVS, Syn, Thunal

I am willing to accept LC's shield of Thunal and Dizzy for now

Which basically means we can vote between:

Marmot
Nutella
Rico
Scotty
Seanzie
SVS
Syn

and we need to have at least 3 votes on one of those names by EOD.
You offer a large palate of names. Do you have any preferences among the 7?
not being able to vote thunal kinda sucks ngl

I want the people who sus you to tell me why you're bad. I was town-reading the contrarianism earlier
You wolf like I do. Fun.

hell yeah brother

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:19 am**

I have a reason to not vote for almost everyone. I won't vote for Rico because the case on them is "they haven't posted" and that is wack. My personal vote list is between Scotty, SVS, Epignosis, and Seanzie, and Seanzie is dependent on me being convinced by others.

I'll be back around an hour before EOD to vote, I guess. I'll still be here for another hour or so too.

(just realized my list above didn't include Epi. Add him to that.)

fwiw I am inclined to just fall back on my original scotty sus, but I'm not sure I have the WIM to really challenge the town-read others have on him

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:36 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:57 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:54 pm Jesus, I've caught up.

Dyslexicon is my top suspect and I'd vote there if I had the means.
why?
Dyslexicon looks mean. Like out to get someone. The tone is a total contrast from what I'm used to seeing. That's the sense I got.

Kine of makes sende for Epig ig.

—

So Lime claimed PR and Nut is town. Look at her reaction both before and after.

I’m not fully caught up, but that’s what I know

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:05 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:18 am Lol lame. Next time just be towny instead of outing.

I wouldn't mind Epi getting some heat since he's just chosen to be annoying as well.

This looks like one of those posts that wolves make when they're annoyed about their push claiming PR. KOD did the exact them thing to zenon in G1.

It's not Lime's fault if other people misread him. Sure he has some influence on it, but it's our read in the end.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:11 am**

Gonna reread the LC-nutella exchange tomorrow. Up until the claim it still felt very much like v!nutella pressing hard as she does when she picks up a scent. The handling afterward looks less townie imo, as described above.

But now that we can treat Brad as an IC, it'll be useful to look at how people treated him.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:14 am**

Also pls utilize your last three posts well nutella. This isn't Brad's fault. I don't blame you for your read, thought it was a reasonable take, even if it turned out to be wrong, but it isn't his fault.

Off to bed. Gnight friends.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:56 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:11 am Gonna reread the LC-nutella exchange tomorrow. Up until the claim it still felt very much like v!nutella pressing hard as she does when she picks up a scent. The handling afterward looks less townie imo, as described above.

But now that we can treat Brad as an IC, it'll be useful to look at how people treated him.

hate this post milord

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:49 am**

Well that was a fun catch up read.

We have 4 votes in non consensus places (including Falcons). That leaves 8 of us left to vote(and Rico has been AFK) .

For me, the three people that have votes already are off the table. Dizzy and Thunal are off the table for me since I’m townreading them both in addition to agreeing with LC.

I also town read Scotty and Syn.

That leaves my personal voting pool at Epi, Falcon, Marmot, Nutella and Rico.

I think Falcons belief that making more emotionally accurate posts by using qualifying words (for a tone reader like me) is wolfy is a bit old fashioned, but I don’t shade him for suspecting me for it. I’d rather not vote for him and I’d rather not vote for Rico since the only rationale for that would be low poster.

I think Nutella’s reaction was more frustrated than Wolfy. I also think Marmots bad and don’t see them and Nutella bad together.

That leaves, for me, Marmot and Epi. I’d prefer Marmot, but I really don’t want to spread votes too much do will consider others. I will have to vote half hour or so before EOD as I’ll be driving home when the poll ends.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:50 am**

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:56 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:11 am Gonna reread the LC-nutella exchange tomorrow. Up until the claim it still felt very much like v!nutella pressing hard as she does when she picks up a scent. The handling afterward looks less townie imo, as described above.

But now that we can treat Brad as an IC, it'll be useful to look at how people treated him.
hate this post milord

Sooper opportunistic amirite?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:54 am**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:02 pm Mid Day tally. This is what I've observed so far.

Thunal
Voters: Epi

Lime Coke
Voters: Falcon

Seanzie
Voters: Lime Coke

@falcon45ca if you could vote in the poll that'd be appreciated.

@falcon45ca here you go.

Not having an accurate vote read can confuse people. Thanks for fixing it.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:08 am**

I’m not caught up, but considering Marmot for a vote
I’ll listen to Lime on Thunal
Not sure in Sean
We don’t have to chop someone who already has votes

SVS, why are you town reading me btw?

I don’t know how helpful I can be today, I have work and socials.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:17 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:08 am I’m not caught up, but considering Marmot for a vote
I’ll listen to Lime on Thunal
Not sure in Sean
We don’t have to chop someone who already has votes

SVS, why are you town reading me btw?

I don’t know how helpful I can be today, I have work and socials.

We are agreeing on alot, I have to be honest, and that helps.

In GOC, it was pretty amazing watching you in thread. You shifted thoughts and positions seamlessly and smoothly without any appearance that it was even a little sketch. You're like a master class in smoothly evolving reads and thoughts. That was more towards the game end, as I recall, but it is still something I associate with you as a baddie. I'm not seeing that at all here. If you're changing your read, you're just changing it, you're not sliding into it, if that makes sense. It's early days and you're very good at being bad, but I haven't seen any reason to think you are from *my* observations of you.

I put you first in that post because you were in the Brad Pack, but Scotty and Syn are probably my greenest reads.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:00 am**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:50 am
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:56 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:11 am Gonna reread the LC-nutella exchange tomorrow. Up until the claim it still felt very much like v!nutella pressing hard as she does when she picks up a scent. The handling afterward looks less townie imo, as described above.

But now that we can treat Brad as an IC, it'll be useful to look at how people treated him.
hate this post milord
Sooper opportunistic amirite?

Wot?

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:03 am**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm Dizzy - Reasons

Syn - Appears to be loose and is giving off reads in a way that I feel is towny.

Thunal - Liked how she's gotten reads, posts liked #91 because of the description of the read given to Syn that I wasn't able to put into words myself.

Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.

Scotty - Kind of already explained it.

Marmot - Responses to suspicion all around him feel fine.

@Dyslexicon

@Lime Coke can you respond to this post again given the current circumstances. I was reading through nutella's ISO to try to figure her alignment out, but I saw this post from you that basically described the things she's doing this game as her town meta. I know that you were kind of a victim of her tunnel yesterday, but do you think she's still town in spite of that? Is the stamp of approval to chop her more of a "on principle" for her pushing you, or do you think it was malicious?

I could still go either way on nutella, but I'm leaning that the above tunneling of you was kinda townie. Given that vote changes aren't allowed and that she could've simply dropped a scumread on your for your sorta background presence and left it at that, but she opted to tunnel you instead, which seems kind reckless for a wolf in Day 1 of a game, particularly of this format.

As for the reaction to your claim: I have on multiple occasions seen wolves react to their scumreads claiming by blaming them, and I don't recall a situation where I've seen town do it, so I do in general see that sort of behavior as wolfy. But I also suppose nutella could simply be frustrated that her vote is stuck in a bad spot now.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:05 am**

I won't be able to actually play for a few hours, but I agree with others that Nutella's reaction is town. I don't really have a strong scumread at this point.

Posted: **Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:06 am**

Also, Lime should absolutely not say who he's marking. Not only will wolves be able to block him, they may not block him if he's going to shoot a townie.

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