Re: The Game of Champions 2024 [Day 1]
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:02 pm
I must have missed this discourse. ¿Que?
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
I must have missed this discourse. ¿Que?
Tbf i think given our history he doesn't want to talk about me directly but like when he's hyper focusing on how people are reading me he kinda does need to talk about me
Thank you, I will listen to you and go back to sleep. It's not like LC wants to talk to me.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:57 pmNo no I hear you and I sympathize, I just figure sleep is very important and I care about your healthMichelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:55 pmDo you know how annoying is to read the inactive thread in my day time while the cool kids are sleeping?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:49 pmMichelle go back to sleep.
Did you know?
Dolphins sleep with only half of their brain at a time! This is called unihemispheric slow-wave sleep (or UNIHEMISPHERIC SLOWAVE, for short), and it allows them to rest while keeping one eye open to watch for predators and continue surfacing for air.
I feel like this post is a thinly veiled sarcasm bomb directed at me, and I can’t tell if you actually suspect me or are just ca-cawingfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:01 pm @Scotty I asked for a list and you didn't would be the reason
Would you like one? I'll give ya one! No problemo, ez pz
And! I'll even give ya GTH list that I won't also hedge by saying it's bad
It's in my ISO, search for Long ConScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:02 pmI must have missed this discourse. ¿Que?
Preface: we should not do a D1 sig yeet. History says it’s a bad idea and this is not the vision of success if we are wrong.
Dude!Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:03 pmI feel like this post is a thinly veiled sarcasm bomb directed at me, and I can’t tell if you actually suspect me or are just ca-cawingfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:01 pm @Scotty I asked for a list and you didn't would be the reason
Would you like one? I'll give ya one! No problemo, ez pz
And! I'll even give ya GTH list that I won't also hedge by saying it's bad
Well that answers that question.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
The thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeahfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
Ok I went back, and it is odd that he didn’t want to give a read on Abigail. Up until that point it read like town on town argument. And it could still be.
Like for one instance, I don't think wolf goes out of their way to seemingly contradict their POV like this, Scotty has been really back and forth being like "i like this cape post" "i dislike cape's vibe" "i like cape over here" and the whole thing is really messy in a way that I think just comes from townScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:29 pmTown points for bringing attention to this.
and to which i say... I guess I don't have a good rebuttal to this. I do this often but I especially do this when I know another person isn't active in the thread so I can't directly talk to them so i more end up talking about them. Honestly, it's how I think of conversations I am not really attached toScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:36 pmEvery time I’m mentioned this game it feels like I’m more of an abstract *idea* of a person and yall are a bunch of grad students writing a brief treatise about potentialities in my programming.Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:02 pmI agree with this, except I am more conflicted on it rather then finding it "not really AI".
Okay so why would this make Scotty town? It gets us somewhere in a mostly kind of stagnant game
Why would this make Scotty mafia? Because he's "powerwolfing" and immediately trying to gain thread control or whatever idk
I kinda talked myself into leaning it town just based on motivation alone
It’s weirding me out. We need more gun to heads
I actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammatesCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:07 pmThe thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeahfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
Gotta give you credit for forging your own path on slinging mud at me, but it’s no Jackson Pollockfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:12 pmYour concern over how you're being perceived is duly noted
Now THIS is how you pocket a person.Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:17 pmLike for one instance, I don't think wolf goes out of their way to seemingly contradict their POV like this, Scotty has been really back and forth being like "i like this cape post" "i dislike cape's vibe" "i like cape over here" and the whole thing is really messy in a way that I think just comes from townScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:29 pmTown points for bringing attention to this.
He did similarly with Thunal to a lesser extent, though I had concerns with that Thunal sig and agreeing with it that I will get into when I get around to it.
Also I am doing exactly what Scotty is saying here:
and to which i say... I guess I don't have a good rebuttal to this. I do this often but I especially do this when I know another person isn't active in the thread so I can't directly talk to them so i more end up talking about them. Honestly, it's how I think of conversations I am not really attached toScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:36 pmEvery time I’m mentioned this game it feels like I’m more of an abstract *idea* of a person and yall are a bunch of grad students writing a brief treatise about potentialities in my programming.Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:02 pmI agree with this, except I am more conflicted on it rather then finding it "not really AI".
Okay so why would this make Scotty town? It gets us somewhere in a mostly kind of stagnant game
Why would this make Scotty mafia? Because he's "powerwolfing" and immediately trying to gain thread control or whatever idk
I kinda talked myself into leaning it town just based on motivation alone
It’s weirding me out. We need more gun to heads
Wanna team up and vote for Porscha?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:18 pmI actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammatesCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:07 pmThe thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeahfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
It's D1 tho, gotta start somewhere
I'm already there dudeScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:22 pmWanna team up and vote for Porscha?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:18 pmI actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammatesCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:07 pmThe thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeahfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
It's D1 tho, gotta start somewhere
Ya know, for science?
I have more meta confidence on Michelle and I believe that after the whole argument with Porscha, Long Con has extremely towny moments, was thinking of putting you above Long Con, but I hedged on that too much, but I still firmly believe you are just town here, even knowing I don't have the best track record with you.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:51 pmI'm not high enough if you wanna be my friend you need to put me firstCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:47 pm My townreads in order are
Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?
I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence
like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlightedRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:22 pm Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.
Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.![]()
Not seeing sig as sk at all.![]()
Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.![]()
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No. Bad.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:22 pmWanna team up and vote for Porscha?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:18 pmI actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammatesCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:07 pmThe thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeahfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
It's D1 tho, gotta start somewhere
Ya know, for science?
Ofalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:23 pmI'm already there dudeScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:22 pmWanna team up and vote for Porscha?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:18 pmI actually find Porscha's defense of Scotty more likely to be pocketing than teammatesCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:07 pmThe thing about Scotty is his treatment of me/Thunal is something I don't think comes from a wolf, I am overgeneralizing my read there as a tldr but yeahfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:04 pm Cape90 - T
DarlingMonroe - W
DrWilgy - T
falcon45ca - T
Lime Coke - T
Long Con - T
Michelle - T
Porscha - W
☆Princess Abigail☆ - T
pyxxy - T
Roxy - W
S~V~S - T
Scotty - W
sig - T
Spacedaisy - W
sprityo - T
Thunal33 - T
TonyStarkPrime - W
It's D1 tho, gotta start somewhere
Ya know, for science?
Yeah I found this read on sig quite odd since both of sig's reads are kinda arbitrary meme stuff, but I find Thunal's read here to be forcing content out a bit in a stilted-ish way, which is what I think of Thunal right now in general even if I kind of liked some of Thunal's explanations in her posts (such as the one on Michelle #395 & the one on falcon #398)Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:20 pmI agree with this actually.
It’s as if he pulled those reads out of fortune cookies. There isn’t really a link or a strong context of those suspicions beside ‘I’m just gonna name something here’
I just have *strong* memory of sig usually succumbing to the D1 misyeet a lot in the past. Like, I had a mantra that if I think sig is bad, he’s probably good; and if I think he’s good, he’s also probably bad, but also maybe mostly good
[VOTE: sig] aubergine
It’s not a sexy vote but he’s a bit too blendy at this point in the day for my liking and I’m down to roll the dice
Anyways rn I could move around the top TRs like:Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:47 pm My townreads in order are
Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?
I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence
like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlightedRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:22 pm Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.
Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.![]()
Not seeing sig as sk at all.![]()
Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.![]()
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Okay, I think I just misunderstood the post and thought you were pointing a finger of suspicion at them as a trio, though I don't think that makes sense given what you said about Wilgy's Michelle vote laterScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:55 pmNot at all preflipping them as mafia. What? I think that group was as good as any to have a jumping off point and look at for behavior in how they were dealing with each otherCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:46 pmWhat I am curious about is if Scotty's read on Michelle changed there.
If not, then I am a bit confused by his comment about the "Abigail-Michelle-Wilgy dynamic". Was wondering from his POV if there being something suspicious in the abigail-michelle-wilgy dynamic and michelle being town can co-ecist because I presumed that the post would preflip all of those names mafia
Granted here we are and Wilgy hasn’t posted since, so he’s not off the hook.
But I’m liking Michelle’s contributions I think? Abbi is feeling more towny. Thing about Michelle is she’s asking some pointed questions and being active early and often which I associate with town Michelle.
I thought I literally couldn't be more clear that I was suspecting you for a fake read.
That's untrue. Sorry I was picking up my son from his friend's house at the exact time you woke up randomly and wanted to chat.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:03 pmThank you, I will listen to you and go back to sleep. It's not like LC wants to talk to me.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:57 pmNo no I hear you and I sympathize, I just figure sleep is very important and I care about your healthMichelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:55 pmDo you know how annoying is to read the inactive thread in my day time while the cool kids are sleeping?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:49 pmMichelle go back to sleep.
Did you know?
Dolphins sleep with only half of their brain at a time! This is called unihemispheric slow-wave sleep (or UNIHEMISPHERIC SLOWAVE, for short), and it allows them to rest while keeping one eye open to watch for predators and continue surfacing for air.
I am not comfortable with a sig Day 1 yeet, he may or may not be a Wolf, but I want more time to decide.
I just want to not get into *it* and so I'm holding my tongue and opinion for the most part.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:16 pmOk I went back, and it is odd that he didn’t want to give a read on Abigail. Up until that point it read like town on town argument. And it could still be.
I would say regardless of his actual reasoning for withholding his read, it’s bonkers for a wolf Long Con to just bottle up like that. Still weird tho
Omg friends!Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:41 pmAnyways rn I could move around the top TRs like:Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:47 pm My townreads in order are
Michelle
Long Con
Princess Abigail
Porscha
Scotty
SVS
Thunal?
I think my strongest wolf lean is Roxy with like 0% confidence
like there is something a bit strange and awkward with the things i highlightedRoxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:22 pm Ok so only daisy and pyx have not posted yet. Hopefully Epi is prodding them but I am unsure bc of Porcha's intro post.
Not seeing anything wrong with Scotty and his questioning/posting.![]()
Not seeing sig as sk at all.![]()
Actually it's very early for me to mention anything so I am done now.![]()
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Michelle
PA
Scotty
Long Con
Porscha
but i guess that's kind of arbitrary
[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
I just feel like Roxy is pretending to be inquisitive here
Just say it this is even more uncomfortable than you just saying it lolLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:55 pmI just want to not get into *it* and so I'm holding my tongue and opinion for the most part.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:16 pmOk I went back, and it is odd that he didn’t want to give a read on Abigail. Up until that point it read like town on town argument. And it could still be.
I would say regardless of his actual reasoning for withholding his read, it’s bonkers for a wolf Long Con to just bottle up like that. Still weird tho
I would like to say as little as possible or less. The whole concept of our previous conflict would not have even entered this game if I had my way.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:14 pmJust say it this is even more uncomfortable than you just saying it lolLong Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:55 pmI just want to not get into *it* and so I'm holding my tongue and opinion for the most part.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:16 pmOk I went back, and it is odd that he didn’t want to give a read on Abigail. Up until that point it read like town on town argument. And it could still be.
I would say regardless of his actual reasoning for withholding his read, it’s bonkers for a wolf Long Con to just bottle up like that. Still weird tho
I never saw the movie, but I had the CD soundtrack. Eye by Smashing Pumpkins was on there, wicked song!
yeah idk I didnt love all the reads but some were fine and it was something able to be worked with so i just let it go earlier lol. i sort of just went with the idea that she townreads scotty enough to be very concerned that I am maybe pocketing him .. @S~V~S how did I pocket you so much in that game btw? i went through my iso there and made like 2 nai posts at you lol. i almost entirely just pushed you/kate dichotomyCape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:51 pm I mostly liked SVS's wall but was concerned about her point on Porscha
S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:55 pm Porscha, the way she came in defending Scotty didn't feel like teammate energy. it felt like pockety energy, and she is a Top Ten pocketer. If I was forced to vote this second this is likely where I would vote, becasue having been in her pocket I know it's a warm, cozy, deadly place, but only if I had to vote for someone NOW, which i don't. So that could develop, it's mainly gut, maybe a bit of fear.Like the Porscha read seems really strange with SVS literally having a townread on Scotty, IDK if that makes sense but it does to meS~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:55 pm Scotty sounds more towny to me than not. Going back and rereading the exchange that struck me aerlier, it still almost feels like he doesn't really believe it. BUT that doesn't mean he's bad, It could mean I'm reading into him, or that he has his own reasons for throwing out suspicions. We tend to tunnel each other (the Go Hungry game was insane, we basically~both town~ killed each other Day 1 ha ha),so it's possible I was reading into it.
Also SVS's read on me is lame but im willing to look past that
in what universe would I have strong convictions when half the players have very few posts? I also got into it with LC for a minute.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:42 pmOh no, that was a Townlean directed at Abbi.Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:16 pmYou town lean Porscha here? I don't understand well and I want to know exactly what you meanScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:08 pmhi PorschaPorscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:03 pmI wish I could bookmark this postScotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:27 pmI mean such that i believe this group feels off. Wilgy is currently voting for Michelle. Joke vote? Maybe. Michelle left him out of her little read list, which shows he’s not even on her radar which is interesting considering he’s voting her, joke or not. Abigail readily agreeing with Wilgy offhandedly that sig is an SK, feels buddy buddy
Michelle and Abby buddy buddy also feels off
To go back to this, I wonder if it makes Abbi more likely to be town that she didn’t remember agreeing with Wilgy that sig was SK. Like, that tells me she IS posting stream of consciousness and isn’t marinating on what makes her *appear* town. Just kinda putting shit out there.
But I don’t remember her scum game.
Townlean
I…don’t particularly have a reason to Townlean Porscha actually. She has taken some time to defend my points and butter me up- which inherently makes me wary- but more importantly I find her reads as peripheral and not making strong indictments of anyone. It’s…soft? Add on that multiple people feel something off and i could very well see her as bad