The Syndicate

This^ Seeing as how both teams have tried to kill DH, I'd be interested in doing a quick read through on his voters.

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm voting for juliets. gleam's last post to me sounded a bit genuine whereas juliets feels off. And her vote for DH, leaving Dom dangling, isn't like her.

votes juliets

Really? You are going to be persuaded by a serial killer? I think it's a really bad idea to vote for jc.

Kate, can you just talk to me more about this post?

I think dh Is a caught baddie. In fact he's not even denying it. Suddenly in the middle of his lynch he announces we should all do this and that. One of those things being vote for jc. Why anyone would assume doing what he says is a good idea is beyond me. So I think voting jc is a bad idea now that he's saying I'm mafia I'm sure he's just trying to mess up the civ game. And I'm surprised you listened to him at all.

That's literally impossible. Both baddie teams tried to NK him. Whether he can be trusted or not, I haven't decided yet.

Yeah so, uhm... Kate is a mafia.

Um a sk isn't a baddie?

Lynch me for God's sake. I really don't mind. No one's taking this game seriously anyway. I'll flip civ tho. So that's your choice.

Kate wrote:Um a sk isn't a baddie?

Lynch me for God's sake. I really don't mind. No one's taking this game seriously anyway. I'll flip civ tho. So that's your choice.

^Frustrated baddie? "No one's taking this game seriously anyway"
I am.

I am super serious.

MP, if you're unable to get them done tonight does that mean we are looking at Tuesday before we will get a night post?

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:Um a sk isn't a baddie?

Lynch me for God's sake. I really don't mind. No one's taking this game seriously anyway. I'll flip civ tho. So that's your choice.

^Frustrated baddie? "No one's taking this game seriously anyway"
I am.

Just a frustrated player. What I meant was no ones talking.

If I was bad would there really be enough reason to be frustrated? About what? Geez Dom. Reaching much? Like I said no ones playing so if you would like to lynch me, have at it but I'm a civ.

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:Um a sk isn't a baddie?

Lynch me for God's sake. I really don't mind. No one's taking this game seriously anyway. I'll flip civ tho. So that's your choice.

^Frustrated baddie? "No one's taking this game seriously anyway"
I am.

Just a frustrated player. What I meant was no ones talking.

If I was bad would there really be enough reason to be frustrated? About what? Geez Dom. Reaching much? Like I said no ones playing so if you would like to lynch me, have at it but I'm a civ.

I'm not convinced on a lynch of you.
I want to talk and discuss. The day hasn't even started yet.

I'm not liking how dismissive and insulting you are. You obviously feel backed up in a corner, and are desperately trying to claw your way out. Not really coming off very civ.

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not liking how dismissive and insulting you are. You obviously feel backed up in a corner, and are desperately trying to claw your way out. Not really coming off very civ.

Stoking the fire again are we.

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not liking how dismissive and insulting you are. You obviously feel backed up in a corner, and are desperately trying to claw your way out. Not really coming off very civ.

Who me?

MovingPictures07 wrote:My flight has been canceled.

Again.

I am livid.

So are some of your players.

This is why I don't fly.

Kate wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not liking how dismissive and insulting you are. You obviously feel backed up in a corner, and are desperately trying to claw your way out. Not really coming off very civ.

Who me?

Yes, with accusing everyone else of not caring about the game.

insertnamehere wrote:

Kate wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not liking how dismissive and insulting you are. You obviously feel backed up in a corner, and are desperately trying to claw your way out. Not really coming off very civ.

Who me?

Yes, with accusing everyone else of not caring about the game.

Uh. K. I may have been dismissive but I'm to sure how I was offensive. I Was playing hard and there were like 1o posts in a day. It seems like no one is playing... I also fail to see desperation. I basically said fuck it. How s that clawing?

Kate wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

Kate wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm not liking how dismissive and insulting you are. You obviously feel backed up in a corner, and are desperately trying to claw your way out. Not really coming off very civ.

Who me?

Yes, with accusing everyone else of not caring about the game.

Uh. K. I may have been dismissive but I'm to sure how I was offensive. I Was playing hard and there were like 1o posts in a day. It seems like no one is playing... I also fail to see desperation. I basically said fuck it. How s that clawing?

The reason why there isn't many posts is because the host is stuck in the airport, and unable to post. There isn't much to discuss.
I'm playing, if you haven't noticed.
You aren't being offensive, just needlessly aggressive, and that's making me more then a little suspicious of you.

I had this really nice boba tea today. I had matcha green tea flavor. The boba tasted like orange blossom honey.

Sooo how's everyone?

Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

MovingPictures07 wrote:My flight has been canceled.

Again.

I am livid.

You may get there sooner if you drive...

Just for the record, I've been taking this game seriously, too. And I'm the one who tried to get mod-killed in the other game. I can see why you're getting frustrated, though, Kate. We seem to be agreeing more with the "SK" than with you (a self-proclaimed civ). Keep in mind what has been said so far: Both Mafia teams have attempted to kill DH. It doesn't seem likely with so many kill survivals available on certain roles, that a Mafia team would risk using a NK on one of their own in order to make him look good. So, assuming the SK can win with the last remaining team, it would be in the civs' best interest to keep the SK alive for the time being. Even if he has an LMS win condition, it's now in the best interesting of the SK to dispose of the Mafia teams first.

That's my opinion anyway.

I haven't been saying much else because I know MP is stuck and we won't have anything more to go on until he gets his post up. And I personally don't feel like wasting time by talking in circles.

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

I don't understand anything Dom says. Have you been insanified?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Just for the record, I've been taking this game seriously, too. And I'm the one who tried to get mod-killed in the other game. I can see why you're getting frustrated, though, Kate. We seem to be agreeing more with the "SK" than with you (a self-proclaimed civ). Keep in mind what has been said so far: Both Mafia teams have attempted to kill DH. It doesn't seem likely with so many kill survivals available on certain roles, that a Mafia team would risk using a NK on one of their own in order to make him look good. So, assuming the SK can win with the last remaining team, it would be in the civs' best interest to keep the SK alive for the time being. Even if he has an LMS win condition, it's now in the best interesting of the SK to dispose of the Mafia teams first.

That's my opinion anyway.

I haven't been saying much else because I know MP is stuck and we won't have anything more to go on until he gets his post up. And I personally don't feel like wasting time by talking in circles.

This I get, though, and I agree with most of it. I'm taking the game seriously now (but trying to have fun too). I had 4 finals last week and couldn't use my mental energy on mafia, so I didn't have much useful to say. Still don't, since we're waiting on that night post.

Dev, I think SK means DH almost certainly has an LMS role, which we should keep in mind. I don't know from the rules why killing baddies would benefit him, but I read him as sincere when he said he'd try to kill baddies, and even though he'll be wrong occasionally, I think it'd be silly of us to throw away a gift/power like that. So even though he's my rival and all, I'm leaning toward leaving him alone for now.

Oh! To DH: you seem to understand how lynch mechanics work a lot better than I do. Who do you recommend we vote tomorrow? I think you said juliets and Dom would both be bad ideas to receive any votes?

And side note: I think there's still a veeery outside chance that DH is a New F.E.B. on the Block, specifically Devin or Nev, but that would mean Dom and juliets are probably his teammates, and right now that scenario just seems very far-fetched to me.

Russtifinko wrote:Oh! To DH: you seem to understand how lynch mechanics work a lot better than I do. Who do you recommend we vote tomorrow? I think you said juliets and Dom would both be bad ideas to receive any votes?

And side note: I think there's still a veeery outside chance that DH is a New F.E.B. on the Block, specifically Devin or Nev, but that would mean Dom and juliets are probably his teammates, and right now that scenario just seems very far-fetched to me.

INH would be a good vote Tomorrow.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Oh! To DH: you seem to understand how lynch mechanics work a lot better than I do. Who do you recommend we vote tomorrow? I think you said juliets and Dom would both be bad ideas to receive any votes?

And side note: I think there's still a veeery outside chance that DH is a New F.E.B. on the Block, specifically Devin or Nev, but that would mean Dom and juliets are probably his teammates, and right now that scenario just seems very far-fetched to me.

INH would be a good vote Tomorrow.

What happened to "Kate is a baddie"?

insertnamehere wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Oh! To DH: you seem to understand how lynch mechanics work a lot better than I do. Who do you recommend we vote tomorrow? I think you said juliets and Dom would both be bad ideas to receive any votes?

And side note: I think there's still a veeery outside chance that DH is a New F.E.B. on the Block, specifically Devin or Nev, but that would mean Dom and juliets are probably his teammates, and right now that scenario just seems very far-fetched to me.

INH would be a good vote Tomorrow.

What happened to "Kate is a baddie"?

She is, but you would be a nice vote.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Just for the record, I've been taking this game seriously, too. And I'm the one who tried to get mod-killed in the other game. I can see why you're getting frustrated, though, Kate. We seem to be agreeing more with the "SK" than with you (a self-proclaimed civ). Keep in mind what has been said so far: Both Mafia teams have attempted to kill DH. It doesn't seem likely with so many kill survivals available on certain roles, that a Mafia team would risk using a NK on one of their own in order to make him look good. So, assuming the SK can win with the last remaining team, it would be in the civs' best interest to keep the SK alive for the time being. Even if he has an LMS win condition, it's now in the best interesting of the SK to dispose of the Mafia teams first.

That's my opinion anyway.

I haven't been saying much else because I know MP is stuck and we won't have anything more to go on until he gets his post up. And I personally don't feel like wasting time by talking in circles.

I'm glad you've understood me, Devin.

Russtifinko wrote:Oh! To DH: you seem to understand how lynch mechanics work a lot better than I do. Who do you recommend we vote tomorrow? I think you said juliets and Dom would both be bad ideas to receive any votes?

And side note: I think there's still a veeery outside chance that DH is a New F.E.B. on the Block, specifically Devin or Nev, but that would mean Dom and juliets are probably his teammates, and right now that scenario just seems very far-fetched to me.

DH isn't on that team. I don't think

I thought DH wanted to lynch Juliets, btw.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Oh! To DH: you seem to understand how lynch mechanics work a lot better than I do. Who do you recommend we vote tomorrow? I think you said juliets and Dom would both be bad ideas to receive any votes?

And side note: I think there's still a veeery outside chance that DH is a New F.E.B. on the Block, specifically Devin or Nev, but that would mean Dom and juliets are probably his teammates, and right now that scenario just seems very far-fetched to me.

INH would be a good vote Tomorrow.

This is news to me.

insertnamehere wrote:

juliets wrote:Epig said his name,

DharmaHelper wrote:Epig said Gleam, so there's my vote.

DharmaHelper wrote:The bloc should dissolve in favor of actual discussion at this point.

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote: The bloc should dissolve in favor of actual discussion at this point.

this. actually,

I'm worried that the block is going to be no more. People are slowly but surely realizing that this is a permanent game with baddies and civvies. Blocks aren't going to be a thing this time next Day. If Gleam is civ, they are going to say that you were to blame, and the block will be completely gone. Note that they are all mentioning you by name. Classic mafia tactic, when you go with an assumption, make sure that you clearly state it isn't your idea. So, if it fails, you can't be held accountable.

INH remember this gem?

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

Now I'm really lost. Where did I do that??

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Just for the record, I've been taking this game seriously, too. And I'm the one who tried to get mod-killed in the other game. I can see why you're getting frustrated, though, Kate. We seem to be agreeing more with the "SK" than with you (a self-proclaimed civ). Keep in mind what has been said so far: Both Mafia teams have attempted to kill DH. It doesn't seem likely with so many kill survivals available on certain roles, that a Mafia team would risk using a NK on one of their own in order to make him look good. So, assuming the SK can win with the last remaining team, it would be in the civs' best interest to keep the SK alive for the time being. Even if he has an LMS win condition, it's now in the best interesting of the SK to dispose of the Mafia teams first.

That's my opinion anyway.

I haven't been saying much else because I know MP is stuck and we won't have anything more to go on until he gets his post up. And I personally don't feel like wasting time by talking in circles.

This is perfectly articulating what I wanted to say, Dev. Now I wish I had said it.

This neverending night is a bit nutty, but I feel so sorry for our poor sockhost!

I'm never want to squash bona fide discussion, but I wonder if there aren't a few more lucrative places to look for Day 4 (more at dawn).

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

Now I'm really lost. Where did I do that??

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... t=400#wrap

I interpreted this as you claiming either Aces or DH...

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

Now I'm really lost. Where did I do that??

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... t=400#wrap

I interpreted this as you claiming either Aces or DH...

Yeah, I'm definitely going to vote for her on Day 4, right now at least.

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

Now I'm really lost. Where did I do that??

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... t=400#wrap

I interpreted this as you claiming either Aces or DH...

Dom, when I click on your link I get the top of a page up where the poll is. I've tried it several times with the same result. Would you click it and tell me if it is linking to the right place? I was expecting a kate quote.

EBWOP: Just noticed I said "in the best interesting" instead of "in the best interest" in my last big post. Fail

@Russti: I do agree with you, too. But I didn't get that line of thought from the "rules" you mentioned. I was trying to put myself in the shoes of an SK that had just been attacked by both mafia teams. After that sort of situation I would most certainly be biased towards wanting the civs to win. In order for that to happen and to allow myself to live longer, I would want to target the baddie teams first and foremost.

But again, that was just my opinion

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote:Kate, i think the best way to deal with the DH situation is to just let him be for a day or two. If you're civ, then you might understand. If you're bad, you want to keep wasting lynches.

I'm not sure i understand. But I'm thinking I believe you.

Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

Now I'm really lost. Where did I do that??

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... t=400#wrap

I interpreted this as you claiming either Aces or DH...

I don't get a post of mine at all. I get a link to a page.

However, I have made no role claims in this game.

insertnamehere wrote:

Dom wrote:

Kate wrote:

Dom wrote: Kate, why did you, at least to me, try to claim the role of DH?

Now I'm really lost. Where did I do that??

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... t=400#wrap

I interpreted this as you claiming either Aces or DH...

Yeah, I'm definitely going to vote for her on Day 4, right now at least.

inh, I'm curious how you made this decision. As has been pointed out twice now, the link Dom gives here leads to the top of a page, not to a quote of Kates, yet you seem to imply what you saw in the quote convinced you to vote for her.

Told you INH would be a good vote.

juliets wrote:Dom, when I click on your link I get the top of a page up where the poll is. I've tried it several times with the same result. Would you click it and tell me if it is linking to the right place? I was expecting a kate quote.

Sorry! I screwed it up.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 400#p58119

That's the post!

Sorry Kate!

insertnamehere wrote: Yeah, I'm definitely going to vote for her on Day 4, right now at least.

You're so bad.

I don't understand anything you say, Dom! You're operating on a whole different level from me. You seem to know who's bad and good based on what they're saying to you, and I have no idea how it works. Are you really that good, or are you being mysterious on purpose? And when day comes, can you please tone it down just for a bit or lead a seminar or something so the rest of us can catch up?

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm voting for juliets. gleam's last post to me sounded a bit genuine whereas juliets feels off. And her vote for DH, leaving Dom dangling, isn't like her.

votes juliets

Really? You are going to be persuaded by a serial killer? I think it's a really bad idea to vote for jc.

Ah, this. No, I was not trying to imply that JC and I were the civs with btsc (which would be silly since then those 2 would crucify me).

I just think that DH is bad news, and I think anyone he supports lynching (especially with his baseless accusations) is probably not in the civ's best interest.

Russtifinko wrote:I don't understand anything you say, Dom! You're operating on a whole different level from me. You seem to know who's bad and good based on what they're saying to you, and I have no idea how it works. Are you really that good, or are you being mysterious on purpose? And when day comes, can you please tone it down just for a bit or lead a seminar or something so the rest of us can catch up?

I follow what he's saying.

Russtifinko wrote:I don't understand anything you say, Dom! You're operating on a whole different level from me. You seem to know who's bad and good based on what they're saying to you, and I have no idea how it works. Are you really that good, or are you being mysterious on purpose? And when day comes, can you please tone it down just for a bit or lead a seminar or something so the rest of us can catch up?

What are you confused on, Russ?
I think it's strange that Kate might've tried to claim DH/Aces in that post. She says she wasn't. I got the feeling she was.
INH jumped on a suspicious he could not have had any real knowledge about because I screwed up the link. That screams baddie to me.

Kate wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm voting for juliets. gleam's last post to me sounded a bit genuine whereas juliets feels off. And her vote for DH, leaving Dom dangling, isn't like her.

votes juliets

Really? You are going to be persuaded by a serial killer? I think it's a really bad idea to vote for jc.

Ah, this. No, I was not trying to imply that JC and I were the civs with btsc (which would be silly since then those 2 would crucify me).

I just think that DH is bad news, and I think anyone he supports lynching (especially with his baseless accusations) is probably not in the civ's best interest.

DH is not good news, you're right. But DH isn't going anywhere right now. I've explained what I can.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:I don't understand anything you say, Dom! You're operating on a whole different level from me. You seem to know who's bad and good based on what they're saying to you, and I have no idea how it works. Are you really that good, or are you being mysterious on purpose? And when day comes, can you please tone it down just for a bit or lead a seminar or something so the rest of us can catch up?

I follow what he's saying.

Long story short: the less power we give to DH, the less power he has.

Dom wrote:Long story short: the less power we give to DH, the less power he has.

Well, except the power to kill people. He has that anyway. But I agree, probably ignoring him is most prudent for now.

Anyway, your post clears things up mostly. I feel like I'm kinda following. Thanks.

It seems to me that Dom is ignoring the other civ BTSC possibility in the Bea/SVS roles. Trying to smudge the facts to fit your case there, Dom ol buddy ol pal?

I think the most ardent thing to do in the upcoming day is to put INH, a wombat, and a third suspicious person in the lynch. I'm pretty sure I'll die at the end of this eternal night.
I became disillusioned with the Kate case awhile ago. It made great bait for INH, though.