The Syndicate

Counter-claiming isn't going to happen when there are obviously fake role cards, otherwise the setup wouldn't allow claiming in the first place.

@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

Makes me think Matt and Zebra are very likely to be baddie teammates now.

a2thezebra wrote:Because of what you said in these two posts, or is there more to it?

Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.

Typhoony wrote:I'd like to hear more from Epi.

He hasn't made a case yet that made me go "wtf have you been smoking today" and it's almost Day 2.

First one was nonsense.
Second one was genuine.
His case on SVS did not make me think "wtf have you been smoking".

In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

I disagree that he'd make it upon he's on a team.

Sorsha wrote:

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

I disagree that he'd make it upon he's on a team.

I disagree that he'd make it up if he's on a team*

Bullzeye wrote:

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

Makes me think Matt and Zebra are very likely to be baddie teammates now.

Typhoony wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

Makes me think Matt and Zebra are very likely to be baddie teammates now.

"Matt is definitely bad because he has to be but within a couple of hours of his imminent demise lol jk I'm gonna push people to lynch Floyd now instead because actually it was him all along or something"

I think Zebra would stick with lynching Matt in that case for the civ cred.

Bullzeye wrote:

nutella wrote:@ sorsha - Wilgy already said hasn't even seen Lost, so no way he'd make that up.


anyway, shit, RIP Floyd. Kinda weird how those votes suddenly happened, I'm not really clear on why. But I just want to lynch Zebra even more.

Makes me think Matt and Zebra are very likely to be baddie teammates now.

I wish we were just because of how brilliant that would make yesterday's result. Two major lynch candidates for most of the day and all of a sudden a player who had ZERO votes for most of the day ends up lynched. A little risky don't you think?

Typhoony wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Because of what you said in these two posts, or is there more to it?

Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.

Typhoony wrote:I'd like to hear more from Epi.

He hasn't made a case yet that made me go "wtf have you been smoking today" and it's almost Day 2.

First one was nonsense.
Second one was genuine.
His case on SVS did not make me think "wtf have you been smoking".

In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

I'd love to see Sayid come and torture Sawyer like in the show

And I have to think about it, that seems a stretch for a game that is supposed to have simple mechanics.

What exactly seems like a stretch?

Typhoony wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Because of what you said in these two posts, or is there more to it?

Typhoony wrote:I am tempted to vote Floyd for breaking this glorious tie, or Epi for not making it an even bigger tie.

But I'll change my vote to SVS for now, because she seemed to be setting up a vote on DF if Matt wasn't going to post something suspicious here, which he seemingly has done now. I don't see it, but okay.

Typhoony wrote:I'd like to hear more from Epi.

He hasn't made a case yet that made me go "wtf have you been smoking today" and it's almost Day 2.

First one was nonsense.
Second one was genuine.
His case on SVS did not make me think "wtf have you been smoking".

In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

And the civilian Toilet Bowl Cleaner I know wouldn't say dumb ass stuff like this would he...




...partner?

Typhoony wrote:
In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

Are you saying the bad team couldpotentially be people on the plane? I would find that easier to believe than Golden giving the baddies a list of roles that were NOT civvies. I find that hard to swallow.

Ok these are the hints/claims that I have found:

Zebra- won't claim
Long Con- Locke
DrWilgy- Michael
Sorsha- jack
Nutella-Jin
Scotty- Charlie
Bullzeye- couldn't see any hints
Typhoony- no hint but I'm pretty sure he's a lostie
Matt- sun
S~V~S- Sayid
Epignosis- Sawyer
--------
Floyd- Hurley
DF- Boone

Baddies on the plane?

"As you were on the plane, you are one of the good guys."

I kind of doubt that.

Sorsha wrote:Ok these are the hints/claims that I have found:

Zebra- won't claim
Long Con- Locke
DrWilgy- Michael
Sorsha- jack
Nutella-Jin
Scotty- Charlie
Bullzeye- Kate
Typhoony- no hint but I'm pretty sure he's a lostie
Matt- sun
S~V~S- Sayid
Epignosis- Sawyer
--------
Floyd- Hurley
DF- Boone

Guess I'll have to get in on this whole info thing too. Not a fan of it but sure.

S~V~S wrote:

Typhoony wrote:
In Pikmin I was comfortable with Epi's posts from the beginning and never really feel like lynching him. In this game, none of his posts are making me comfortable.
There's also the very obvious Sawyer roleclaim. I think that Golden did indeed give the baddies fake roles to claim, making roleclaims completely useless, and Sawyer is the perfect role for Epi to claim since he fits that role naturally (minus the being a hunk ofcourse). I could see Epi acting like Sawyer in a Lost game regardless of if he had that role or not, but now he went over the top, enjoying it just a bit too much for me to think he is doing this as a civ.

Are you saying the bad team couldpotentially be people on the plane? I would find that easier to believe than Golden giving the baddies a list of roles that were NOT civvies. I find that hard to swallow.

No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying what you find hard to swallow. Would that not make sense in a closed game where roleclaiming is almost encouraged by the Host?

@ Sorsha: i'm Shannon.

I interpreted what Typh said as not all the roles from the show made it into the game and Golden told the others what roles are not in the game i.e. Safe to fake claim.

Linki- I was hoping you were Kate and that Jack saved Kate last night but ok, Shannon.

I'm pretty sure Kate would have made the cut... Anyone going to claim that?

Sorsha wrote:I interpreted what Typh said as not all the roles from the show made it into the game and Golden told the others what roles are not in the game i.e. Safe to fake claim.

Linki- I was hoping you were Kate and that Jack saved Kate last night but ok, Shannon.

I'm pretty sure Kate would have made the cut... Anyone going to claim that?

I literally did in my last post. Bolded it and everything.

Bullzeye just claimed Kate.

And you interpreted it correctly.

Sorsha wrote:I interpreted what Typh said as not all the roles from the show made it into the game and Golden told the others what roles are not in the game i.e. Safe to fake claim.

Linki- I was hoping you were Kate and that Jack saved Kate last night but ok, Shannon.

I'm pretty sure Kate would have made the cut... Anyone going to claim that?

Someone did.

Why would this host of all hosts do that?

I just am not seeing this.

Bullzeye wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I interpreted what Typh said as not all the roles from the show made it into the game and Golden told the others what roles are not in the game i.e. Safe to fake claim.

Linki- I was hoping you were Kate and that Jack saved Kate last night but ok, Shannon.

I'm pretty sure Kate would have made the cut... Anyone going to claim that?

I literally did in my last post. Bolded it and everything.

Sorry... It didn't show up in my linky

S~V~S wrote:Why would this host of all hosts do that?

I just am not seeing this.

Does Golden have experience with closed setups on other forums?
Is it normal to give roles for baddies to claim with closed setups with themes like this?

Zebra you can focus all your time on this game now

The cop just can't get a break in these heist games.

So now, Typh, that our most important civ has been lynched for whatever reason, claiming is fine in my book, because as far as I'm concerned we're back to square 1. Looking at votes. And I hope to do another vote analysis at some point, but I'm on a plane to Alaska tomorrow and- barring some electromagnetic shits don't down the plane- will be afk. Not ideal, but work has been grabbin at my balls this week. Next week will be even more involved. And I apologize ahead of time.

Right now, Sorsha's implication that she saved Typh is the best info we have. This does not directly mean that either Sorsha or Typh are cleared, but I trust Sorsha and Typh in that order. Everyone else is fair game as far as I'm concerned.
There is still one power role. This could be any myriad of different roles. That person should NOT claim yet, unless it directly helps the town toward winning.

Seeing as the doctor and the cop are accounted for and there is a third power role out there I don't understand zebras insistence that him role claiming would be so detrimental to the civvie cause. I could see a couple of the roles already claimed fitting with a power so I'm not inclined to trust his claim.

Maybe Zebra is willing to claim a role now... ?

Are we to assume that all 3 power roles are civs btw?

I suppose one of the baddies could have a power role.. Wouldn't rule it out.

Sorsha wrote:Seeing as the doctor and the cop are accounted for and there is a third power role out there I don't understand zebras insistence that him role claiming would be so detrimental to the civvie cause. I could see a couple of the roles already claimed fitting with a power so I'm not inclined to trust his claim.

I understand the hesitancy beforehand, (and I'm still slightly mad at you for claiming so early ) because at that point there was still secrecy that could be used to our advantage. I don't trust ANY claims except you right now.

Typhoony wrote:Are we to assume that all 3 power roles are civs btw?

Well I never thought of that, but I find that unlikely in any case. OR at least I hope so.

In other games like this it often is the Godfather iirc, can't die until his other teammates do. But anything is possible.

I have not played many of these on other forums. But I have never heard of baddies being given fake roles to claim, but what do i know?

S~V~S wrote:In other games like this it often is the Godfather iirc, can't die until his other teammates do. But anything is possible.

I have not played many of these on other forums. But I have never heard of baddies being given fake roles to claim, but what do i know?

Who even initially brought that up as a thing?

Scotty wrote:

S~V~S wrote:In other games like this it often is the Godfather iirc, can't die until his other teammates do. But anything is possible.

I have not played many of these on other forums. But I have never heard of baddies being given fake roles to claim, but what do i know?

Who even initially brought that up as a thing?

Long Con did

Scotty wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Seeing as the doctor and the cop are accounted for and there is a third power role out there I don't understand zebras insistence that him role claiming would be so detrimental to the civvie cause. I could see a couple of the roles already claimed fitting with a power so I'm not inclined to trust his claim.

I understand the hesitancy beforehand, (and I'm still slightly mad at you for claiming so early ) because at that point there was still secrecy that could be used to our advantage. I don't trust ANY claims except you right now.

Typhoony wrote:Are we to assume that all 3 power roles are civs btw?

Well I never thought of that, but I find that unlikely in any case. OR at least I hope so.

Don't be mad at me, be mad at the redneck jackass

Sorsha wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Seeing as the doctor and the cop are accounted for and there is a third power role out there I don't understand zebras insistence that him role claiming would be so detrimental to the civvie cause. I could see a couple of the roles already claimed fitting with a power so I'm not inclined to trust his claim.

I understand the hesitancy beforehand, (and I'm still slightly mad at you for claiming so early ) because at that point there was still secrecy that could be used to our advantage. I don't trust ANY claims except you right now.

Typhoony wrote:Are we to assume that all 3 power roles are civs btw?

Well I never thought of that, but I find that unlikely in any case. OR at least I hope so.

Don't be mad at me, be mad at the redneck jackass

I mean, in the end, he didn't make you claim. He badgered, for sure, but in the end, you chose to end it to get a monkey off your back. The best way to get a monkey off your back is to perform a Samoan driver over your shoulder and slam him down. But if all else fails, build a raft and get off the island.

You do you. I do me.

TheFloyd73 wrote:I'm honestly appaulled. I go away for two days after I make a legitimate vote with reason.

Civs, you're fucked.

No we're not. Cheer up, Jumbotron.

I will say that I thought Sassafras was Montezuma. That's what I had her as.

TheFloyd73 wrote:I'm honestly appaulled. I go away for two days after I make a legitimate vote with reason.

Civs, you're fucked.

Appalled*

Sketchy stuff all around! If I'm Locke, I probably have a cool power role, because I'm Special, right?

Long Con wrote:Sketchy stuff all around! If I'm Locke, I probably have a cool power role, because I'm Special, right?

Depends on how you look at it. Spoiler if you haven't seen Lost! I originally had Locke pegged as the investigator, as in the investigator of the island, but I was wrong. I'm not sure what else he could be as a PR.

Typhoony wrote:Maybe Zebra is willing to claim a role now... ?

What on earth gave you this impression?

The fact that almost everybody else has hinted?

Claire or Walt? Take your pick. Pick the one you're not if you want, and we will never have to talk about rolehints and what not again. Instead, we can just focus on the gamethread

Just FYI, I will not be around a lot for Day 3. Dunno how much I will be able to post.

Top suspect is still Epi. If Mafia got fake roles to claim, I would think that they would be more likely to hint from the beginning. As everybody has hinted or claimed a different role, I am quite confident this is actually the case.
Scotty is also on my list.
If I had to guess the third baddie, LC/Wilgy/Matt? Something like that.

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:Sketchy stuff all around! If I'm Locke, I probably have a cool power role, because I'm Special, right?

Depends on how you look at it. Spoiler if you haven't seen Lost!

Spoiler: show

Locke wasn't, in fact, special, and is deceived into believing he has special powers on the island. Later he is possessed by the smoke monster. Really would be a great alibi for the smoke monster in this game if we're looking at alibis, no?

I originally had Locke pegged as the investigator, as in the investigator of the island, but I was wrong. I'm not sure what else he could be as a PR.

If I were designing this