Re: Battlestar Galactica Mafia - Day Five
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:53 pm
*Admiral Cain. Forme it is asimple think. If you have any other reason for thinking I am a cylon, I would like to hear them.
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This is why you're going to be mopped up here many times over if you play long enough. "Gamesolving" is a simple thing to fake. I can turn it on when I want to. A number of people here can. Sometimes we're genuine about it and sometimes we're being bullshitters. I'm dropping 3J and Rico into the latter category. 3J to the greater extent, and Ricochet as a peripheral accomplice, if you will. No, I don't expect either one will be lynched today in the present climate. But if you take their names off the table because they're "gamesolving," you are giving them a pass and allowing their content to slide without scrutiny.Silverwolf wrote:A few are suspicious of JJJ-what's the case? I'm genuinely curious because I see him doing a lot of gamesolving along with Rico which is why I have those two as town. If either, both of them are scum, I'm likely not gonna catch them at this point so I'd like to see some reasoning on why if you suspect them. I'm open to listening on anyone as I'm have a really hard time getting good reads this game. It's frustrating the hell out of me tbh. Maybe it's cuz I don't know the lore.
I mean that you are making a claim I am going to have a tough time believing, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to hear you out.Black Rock wrote:I am much too much with the rye and coke tonight. Explain this further.Epignosis wrote:Black Rock, I'd say the burden of proof is on you right now, so I'm listening.
I also know claiming SVS as an enemy is like shooting myself in the foot. I don't expect people to believe me. It's just who we are.
S~V~S wrote:I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
I can change your mind.S~V~S wrote:I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
I retract my praise regarding your mastery of English. You know neither what "absolutely" or "necessary" mean.Polo wrote:SokothQultuq, I know it's not continual, I read the law. For frak's sake, I'm not THAT dumb. Jesus, this annoyed me a LOT.
IF EVERYONE CLAIMS CYLON, EVERYONE WILL BE SURE THAT NO CYLON, SHOULD HE/SHE BE EVIL OR NOT, WILL BE IMMUNE TO A LYNCH ON THE DAY OF THE CLAIM.
THIS IS A LOGICAL DEDUCTION DERIVED FROM THE CYLON AMNESTY ACT.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR US TO LYNCH CAVIL, OR ELSE WE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE DAY LATE IN LYNCHING HIM.
Have I been clear enough?
Good point. I went after MP who was scum in Championship despite his game solving-doing ISO's like JJJ and Rico are and posting heavily but no one listened because of his heavy posting. So I never got him lynched and town won. I see more town motivation in their posting that scum at this time but I am willing to listen to evidence on the contrary because I'm hard pressed to want them lynched.Epignosis wrote:This is why you're going to be mopped up here many times over if you play long enough. "Gamesolving" is a simple thing to fake. I can turn it on when I want to. A number of people here can. Sometimes we're genuine about it and sometimes we're being bullshitters. I'm dropping 3J and Rico into the latter category. 3J to the greater extent, and Ricochet as a peripheral accomplice, if you will. No, I don't expect either one will be lynched today in the present climate. But if you take their names off the table because they're "gamesolving," you are giving them a pass and allowing their content to slide without scrutiny.Silverwolf wrote:A few are suspicious of JJJ-what's the case? I'm genuinely curious because I see him doing a lot of gamesolving along with Rico which is why I have those two as town. If either, both of them are scum, I'm likely not gonna catch them at this point so I'd like to see some reasoning on why if you suspect them. I'm open to listening on anyone as I'm have a really hard time getting good reads this game. It's frustrating the hell out of me tbh. Maybe it's cuz I don't know the lore.
Can you now?Long Con wrote:I can change your mind.S~V~S wrote:I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
How will the claim-deniers react when they try to lynch a bad Cylon and they suddenly use their unused claim and end up lynching the unfortunate Civ who is next in line? How is any of this crap - pride, possible Final Five, whatever else - worth it in light of that inevitable result? That's the thing that just frustrates me with the non-claimers.Polo wrote:SokothQultuq, I know it's not continual, I read the law. For frak's sake, I'm not THAT dumb. Jesus, this annoyed me a LOT.
IF EVERYONE CLAIMS CYLON, EVERYONE WILL BE SURE THAT NO CYLON, SHOULD HE/SHE BE EVIL OR NOT, WILL BE IMMUNE TO A LYNCH ON THE DAY OF THE CLAIM.
THIS IS A LOGICAL DEDUCTION DERIVED FROM THE CYLON AMNESTY ACT.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR US TO LYNCH CAVIL, OR ELSE WE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE DAY LATE IN LYNCHING HIM.
Have I been clear enough?
No. It isn't. I think you are too busy nitpicking over who claimed what instead of figuring out who needs to be lynched. I think your enthusiasm is counterfeit, and I want to know why zebra was swift to protect you from my questioning.Polo wrote:Then swap "necessary" with "vital". Is that good enough for you?
No. I need time.Epignosis wrote:Can you now?Long Con wrote:I can change your mind.S~V~S wrote:I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
I have an open mind, regardless of what you might think. I was hoping the President would back you up. But I am going to bed.Long Con wrote:I can change your mind.S~V~S wrote:I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
Also, a linki or otherwise to you. Cylons are on a whole wanting all humans dead, because we are flawed. So... you want Cain dead... for Epig? I don't want Epig to die for lame reasons but, we're not there yet. No other listed Cylon is making me feel that way. If the "real" final 5 were listed as Cylons I would feel differently, but they are human this game. So that's why, not LC at all, but you wanting to save "good" Cylons (Epig) over humans. You are actively seeking this instead of getting rid of the evil cylons first, which LC is likely not. I also am not convinced that any human have killed.S~V~S wrote:*Admiral Cain. Forme it is asimple think. If you have any other reason for thinking I am a cylon, I would like to hear them.
Oh, I most certainly do. But he just declared so he is no longer a member of that group, and a vote today is now wasted because he's probably a toaster.Polo wrote:Do you not suspect Sig?
She isn't just a human, she is a tyrannical dictator. She declared Martial law and hurt people I think are part of the town. It has nothing to do with its effects on me as an individual, it has to do with the effects on the town as a whole.Black Rock wrote:S~V~S wrote:I am sorry you feel that way but you are mistaken. I am a human, but I do not think all the Cylons are baddies. And I hate the win cons that say they are. I want the win cons that we had back. And since the president gave us the silliest law possible, I think that is telling us that the President is unable to get us out old wincons back. Which means the admiral has to go.Black Rock wrote:I used to think you had the humans best interests at heart. I no longer think you do. I just focused on LoRab first and had a hiccup with the game. Now that is over and I have shaken my head, I realize you aren't my friend this game.S~V~S wrote:And I was not putting words into anyones mouth, I am trying to understand what she means.
BR has not said anything to me or about me the whole game, so I am hard pressed to understand why she suddenly thinks I am bad if it is not related to my main topic of discussion for some time now, how I think that you are bad, LC.
Thanks for dropping the time back Golden. I a still staying up too late lol.
See, where I stand. Nothing is worse for me and I AM human, and not a bad one. So I have to question where you stand and why killing a human is SO important to you.
The only way we can avoid that is by having only one person be the recipient of votes, but even that is almost impossible due to Ellen Tigh's power.Long Con wrote:How will the claim-deniers react when they try to lynch a bad Cylon and they suddenly use their unused claim and end up lynching the unfortunate Civ who is next in line? How is any of this crap - pride, possible Final Five, whatever else - worth it in light of that inevitable result? That's the thing that just frustrates me with the non-claimers.Polo wrote:SokothQultuq, I know it's not continual, I read the law. For frak's sake, I'm not THAT dumb. Jesus, this annoyed me a LOT.
IF EVERYONE CLAIMS CYLON, EVERYONE WILL BE SURE THAT NO CYLON, SHOULD HE/SHE BE EVIL OR NOT, WILL BE IMMUNE TO A LYNCH ON THE DAY OF THE CLAIM.
THIS IS A LOGICAL DEDUCTION DERIVED FROM THE CYLON AMNESTY ACT.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR US TO LYNCH CAVIL, OR ELSE WE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE DAY LATE IN LYNCHING HIM.
Have I been clear enough?
I want to just reiterate the key word there, because it is extremely important to understand:
Inevitable.
GOOD point.Dex wrote:EBWOP
...a vote today FOR SIG is now wasted...
And couple of days. Can you just lynch Cylons until then or something? Is your win conditions going to be resolved in that time? You don't need Cain gone until it is time to end the game. I swear to you that you are better off and will have a greater chance of winning if you let me be. Unless you get lynched instead. But thats obvious.Linki, lol, how much time?
Crappy comparison. Don't do that. It's not that simple, you don't know what's going on.Epignosis wrote:"I can write my name."
"Can you now?"
"No. I need time."
Yeah he claimed today so that gets him out of a lynch if he's cylon today.Dex wrote:EBWOP
...a vote today FOR SIG is now wasted...
Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?
Oh, no, you're absolutely right. I don't. Over my head. Pardon me while I fuck off some galaxy.Long Con wrote:And couple of days. Can you just lynch Cylons until then or something? Is your win conditions going to be resolved in that time? You don't need Cain gone until it is time to end the game. I swear to you that you are better off and will have a greater chance of winning if you let me be. Unless you get lynched instead. But thats obvious.Linki, lol, how much time?
Crappy comparison. Don't do that. It's not that simple, you don't know what's going on.Epignosis wrote:"I can write my name."
"Can you now?"
"No. I need time."
You waiting for something else to happen?Long Con wrote:And couple of days. Can you just lynch Cylons until then or something? Is your win conditions going to be resolved in that time? You don't need Cain gone until it is time to end the game. I swear to you that you are better off and will have a greater chance of winning if you let me be. Unless you get lynched instead. But thats obvious.Linki, lol, how much time?
Crappy comparison. Don't do that. It's not that simple, you don't know what's going on.Epignosis wrote:"I can write my name."
"Can you now?"
"No. I need time."
I applaud your paranoia.Epignosis wrote:Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?
There are only two instances when I get paranoid, and you don't know me well enough to know when those are.Polo wrote:I applaud your paranoia.Epignosis wrote:Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?
This song fits you so fine, Cylon.Epignosis wrote:There are only two instances when I get paranoid, and you don't know me well enough to know when those are.Polo wrote:I applaud your paranoia.Epignosis wrote:Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?
No SVS. Thanks for trying to make me THAT girl. I love my husband in real life, it's true. I am talking about my own win conditions. Not his. Also about the show. Epig has the only Cylon role that I trust, and you are worried about the other Cylons that committed human genocide. Besides thinking LC is Cain, explain why you trust Cylons over her. I mean listed Cylons, the ones that killed 12 colonies. LoRab was one of those Cylons. I'm not sad about her death. Unless your win condition features some human death, I am confused about your focus.S~V~S wrote:See,I disagree,Epi. I think JJJ is stone cold civvie, and I don't get the suspish there, either.
Linki,me too. I want to hear it.
Linki, so it is about LC? I think he ia a bad human who is a danger to us all.
What's that?Polo wrote:This song fits you so fine, Cylon.Epignosis wrote:There are only two instances when I get paranoid, and you don't know me well enough to know when those are.Polo wrote:I applaud your paranoia.Epignosis wrote:Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?
Polo wrote:SokothQultuq, I know it's not continual, I read the law. For frak's sake, I'm not THAT dumb. Jesus, this annoyed me a LOT.
IF EVERYONE CLAIMS CYLON, EVERYONE WILL BE SURE THAT NO CYLON, SHOULD HE/SHE BE EVIL OR NOT, WILL BE IMMUNE TO A LYNCH ON THE DAY OF THE CLAIM.
THIS IS A LOGICAL DEDUCTION DERIVED FROM THE CYLON AMNESTY ACT.
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR US TO LYNCH CAVIL, OR ELSE WE'LL BE AT LEAST ONE DAY LATE IN LYNCHING HIM.
Have I been clear enough?
I believe Cain is a pro human role and a anti Cylon role, which meshes fine. Unless I see Cain doing some random killing, I am not afraid of that role. I also think you are silly to think LC is that role, just because he has stated his distaste of Cylons and then Cain did. Do you really think our host is so black and white? Also LC? Really? I don't understand your play this game SVS. I figure you're Cylon trying to distract the thread... or new. You aren't new.S~V~S wrote:BlackRock, do you think Admiral Cain is a good role?
I believe Cain needs to kill all Cylons. I don't think, and didn't think back then, that this game is a simple civ vs bad. I think Cain upsets certain factions, and that the Cylons that most humans need dead are the biggest likely voice of those factions. It just makes logical sense.Dex wrote:LC, you once posted a list of the roles and guessed their alignment. Now that we know who the secret role is, what is your call on Cain?
I don't trust cylons over her, I don't trust any of them. I think she is just as dangerous to sometown people as the cylons. I am also worried about human roles like Helo & Baltar whose win cons may well be related to cylons. I am worried about Adama, based on the reading I have done. President Roslin. We have no clue what Cain can do but I am sure it is not good.Black Rock wrote:No SVS. Thanks for trying to make me THAT girl. I love my husband in real life, it's true. I am talking about my own win conditions. Not his. Also about the show. Epig has the only Cylon role that I trust, and you are worried about the other Cylons that committed human genocide. Besides thinking LC is Cain, explain why you trust Cylons over her. I mean listed Cylons, the ones that killed 12 colonies. LoRab was one of those Cylons. I'm not sad about her death. Unless your win condition features some human death, I am confused about your focus.S~V~S wrote:See,I disagree,Epi. I think JJJ is stone cold civvie, and I don't get the suspish there, either.
Linki,me too. I want to hear it.
Linki, so it is about LC? I think he ia a bad human who is a danger to us all.
This sounds cool, you have to follow up, what are they?Epignosis wrote:There are only two instances when I get paranoid, and you don't know me well enough to know when those are.Polo wrote:I applaud your paranoia.Epignosis wrote:Could be. Might be. Definitely is a toss up.Polo wrote:Epi: is my enthusiasm really counterfeit when someone replies with a complete and utter distortion of what I have been saying since the Cylon Amnesty Act was enacted?
So I think you're bad news for the town and now I'm a cylon?Long Con wrote:I believe Cain needs to kill all Cylons. I don't think, and didn't think back then, that this game is a simple civ vs bad. I think Cain upsets certain factions, and that the Cylons that most humans need dead are the biggest likely voice of those factions. It just makes logical sense.Dex wrote:LC, you once posted a list of the roles and guessed their alignment. Now that we know who the secret role is, what is your call on Cain?
Thank you, I promise you will not regret it.I am willing to listen to LC, and see what else happens.