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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:54 am
by Elohcin
lapluie wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:18 pm So...elochin. ..why didn't you guys kill anyone this round?
you are so confident in your reads, it's crazy. I don't know why mafia didn't kill last night. Maybe because the last mafia is actually dave?
lapluie wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:13 am @Elohcin What're your thoughts on quin & kyle?
lackadaisical quin and indie kyle.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:54 am
by Elohcin
I don't usually do a placeholder vote...but here goes.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:59 am
by novaselinenever
[mention]Elohcin[/mention] How can Kyle be indie when the second indie (the other one being JJJ) is voting him up ?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:35 pm
by lapluie
[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

K well.. from what I can tell.... the remaining mafias are quin & kyle,{potentially Dave???}. . But I'll digress that.

I'm town & I wanna help us win, Nova is town too, I've been saying this plenty of times ( 10000% certainty ), why would else would i be this adamant on nova being town throughout this entire game play near ending? It wouldn't be much of use to fabricate a false claim especially when the game is soon to finish, revert back to the first post I did about nova being town which was here ;

lapluie wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:07 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:52 pm
lapluie wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:33 pm
speedchuck wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:57 am This whole page disgusts me. I get JJJ, have no idea what Kylemii is after... and after tonight, town will be outnumbered if we include the 3P right? Ergh.

Here's hoping that the kill targets and stuff matter and that we have another chance. After all, the game hasn't ended yet, so there has to be a chance, right?

Use night actions wisely people.

@Kylemii Who would you want to lynch tomorrow, as it stands?
if the game doesn't end tonight, Nova or Eloh.
Well if I'm getting killed tonight you'd know that I've said how nova isn't mafia so don't ignore that. Thanks.
How confident are you in that?
To be more clear: Compare it to how confident you were in Dunya's scumness, Simon's towniness, and Nutella's scumness.

I don't want to lose this game because we accidentally took a strong read as an infodrop and cleared Nova.
Yes I know, however I'm getting killed tonight (possibly), why would I defend a mafia member to not get lynched. Im very confident about nova, chances of nova being bad is 0% from what I know, do not in any circumstances lynch him. It would end the game on a bad note, I'm not sure who else is bad, tbh then I don't know. because I've already known what jimmy is & he he made it very clear, probably knows me too is why he wants me dead. anyways. I've said false crap about this game, but do not ignore this most specifically, or town will just lose.

I believed I was getting killed & still wanted to protect nova at all cost, this is how certain I am hes not bad & still stand with this claim.

Jimmy has no reason to vote for nova other than his benefit in game as he's 3rd party or supposidly.
{Clear why he's voting for nova}.


yes kyle did want a speedchuck lynch & was all aboard with it, however he also had a high accuracy for you to supposedly be "mafia". "Speedchuck 110% & Elohcin 100%" - (why???)

Also here is when he asked quin in to join him vote eloh which makes him look even more bad & alas example;

 
Kylemii wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:37 pm
lapluie wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:52 pm @Quin don't forget to move your vote to Eloh at some point, it's important.
Nope nope nope.... oh my ..word. I quit
Eloh is 100% mafia. Speedchuck is also 110% mafia. The most important thing is that we end up with as many votes on one of them as possible. It doesn't matter which, as long as it's a united front.

Got on our side with speedchuck lynch so he'd shine through as a hero & we believed it.

Speedchuck died as baraka & when it was crystal clear how he acknowledged the fact I'm obvious town after his claim.

I don't believe you're mafia Elohcin, I had skeptical theories for you but they just don't even add up.
You weren't responsible for your own misleading lynch & it's important you trust me that nova is one of me & you, a town whos just trying to win the game with victory.

Quin won't side with us for obvious reasons, I know your votes count in order to win the game so you need to have a strong stability trust towards me now, because I can help you.

{Sloppy post will have better a response later today}

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:49 pm
by Elohcin
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:59 am @Elohcin How can Kyle be indie when the second indie (the other one being JJJ) is voting him up ?
what do you mean by "voting him up"? I am confused right now. I thought we decided that Kyle and Jay were the indies. Do you all think Kyle is bad now? I feel like I have lost what is going on in this game ever since the dog competition.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:52 pm
by lapluie
[mention]Elohcin[/mention] how do you feel that kyle gave you a high percentage rate about you bring mafia?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:52 pm
by novaselinenever
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:49 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:59 am @Elohcin How can Kyle be indie when the second indie (the other one being JJJ) is voting him up ?
what do you mean by "voting him up"? I am confused right now. I thought we decided that Kyle and Jay were the indies. Do you all think Kyle is bad now? I feel like I have lost what is going on in this game ever since the dog competition.
If you look at the roles, there are only 2 indies. One of them is JJJ, the other is Ermac. The latter is voting Kyle up so I doubt Kyle is indie. He's most likely Mafia.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:53 pm
by Elohcin
@Lap....thank you for the post. I appreciate you laying that out for me. I am going to trust you and vote k[mention]lapluie[/mention]

linki:Yeah, if he were indie, I don't think he would care that much.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:54 pm
by Elohcin
I think you guys are making sense. And I don't see any reason for Jay not to get on board.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:55 pm
by Elohcin
also, thank you nova for explaining as well.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:00 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I don’t think the Ermac sock and the Ermac role have to be the same person.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
It is highly unlikely that Kyle is mafia. Indeed it’s the lowest likelihood in the game other than my likelihood.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I miscalculated before though regarding novaselinenever. The correct lynch to establish proper order is lapluie.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:06 pm
by lapluie
What about quin [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] ? Should we lynch him then?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:06 pm
by lapluie
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:06 pm I miscalculated before though regarding novaselinenever. The correct lynch to establish proper order is lapluie.
Yeah ok good luck with that

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:09 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Kyle you must vote lapluie or you will lose. I don’t mean to give you an ultimatum. The civilians have forced your hand.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:10 pm
by lapluie
yeah hmm.. where IS kyle? ~looks aroud~

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:22 pm
by MacDougall
u sux

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:33 pm
by lapluie
xcuseme

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:09 pm
by dunya
lapluie wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:33 pmxcuseme
ur xcused

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:16 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
*talks in dead*

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:25 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Also, mafia member(s): I hope you realize that lynching Kyle is the equivalent of losing the game. It may not be readily apparent to you, so just think it through.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:01 pm
by lapluie
the only vote you're getting is probably quin, but that isn't enough to lynch me.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:35 pm
by MacDougall
lapluie wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:33 pmxcuseme
I m ded

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:52 pm
by Elohcin
I'm a little confused (I know you aren't surprised). Did night just end last night (feb 8) or did this 48 hour phase just go by really fast for me? And...if it did end on feb 8th, why are we having a 24 hour day. I mean, I am okay with that, but just curious.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:53 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
It's a 24-hour day. I don't know why. Perhaps the hosts just want us to get on with it.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm
by Elohcin
I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:56 pm
by Elohcin
that is why I voted with him to start. the kyle thing makes sense, but so does Jay's refute of it. Looking back at all Kyle has said, I want to believe he is the second indie, not a baddie

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:57 pm
by lapluie
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.
You're not being serious right ..?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:01 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
It's also plausible that Kyle cannot speak in this thread today, and if he is the Ermac sock in this instance, the self-vote was a means of expressing his being silenced. We'll see if the vote ever moves, but regardless Ermac sock voting Kyle does not equate to Kyle is not indy.

It should be telling that I am the one providing this take, being the clear indy on the board.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:28 pm
by Elohcin
why couldn't Dave be mafia? There was no kill last night after chuck's lynch. perhaps no one was there to turn in a pm

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:31 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:28 pm why couldn't Dave be mafia? There was no kill last night after chuck's lynch. perhaps no one was there to turn in a pm
It's possible.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:36 pm
by Elohcin
I am being wishy-washy, I know. But I want to get this right. does anyone else think Dave could be mafia?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:37 pm
by Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:53 pm It's a 24-hour day. I don't know why. Perhaps the hosts just want us to get on with it.
It used to be customary for Day phases to go to 24 hours once there were significantly fewer players. There is nothing mechanical involved here: It was a hosting decision on my part.

If anyone would like 48-hour Days to be back in place, you need only say so and I will change it back.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I'm fine with 24.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Voted Dave.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
by novaselinenever
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.
I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:39 pm
by novaselinenever
I'm fine with 24 hours. It's great.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.
I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.
You're not reading the nuance. I also told them to kill me last night.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
by novaselinenever
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.
I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.
You're not reading the nuance. I also told them to kill me last night.
What nuance ? That's after admitting defeat. It means absolutely nothing.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:41 pm
by lapluie
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:36 pm I am being wishy-washy, I know. But I want to get this right. does anyone else think Dave could be mafia?

Whaaaaat about quin... quin could be the other one too hey?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:42 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.
I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.
You're not reading the nuance. I also told them to kill me last night.
What nuance ? That's after admitting defeat. It means absolutely nothing.
Yeah, you're not seeing past the surface.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:43 pm
by novaselinenever
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:42 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:40 pm
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:38 pm
Elohcin wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:55 pm I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.
I don't know how you could say that. If you haven't been following the last day phases, JJJ tried to ally himself with Mafia and asked them to kill Lapluie. This ties with his wincon. It's safe to conclude that Lapluie is Town and she's also one of the roles he has to eliminated in order to win.
You're not reading the nuance. I also told them to kill me last night.
What nuance ? That's after admitting defeat. It means absolutely nothing.
Yeah, you're not seeing past the surface.
Enlighten me.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:43 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Listen, I am trying to help you people keep this game fairly balanced for everyone. If you're going to lynch an obvious independent, I can't stop you. It probably is Dave.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:44 pm
by lapluie
Hey [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] if you think Dave is the other mafia alongside quin, & NOT kyle.. wouldn't it be best to lynch quin then?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:45 pm
by lapluie
Jimmy is adamant on kyle being 3P.
Ok established.
Other two mafias would be quin & potential Dave, no? I say we go for quin then.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:44 pm Hey @JaggedJimmyJay if you think Dave is the other mafia alongside quin, & NOT kyle.. wouldn't it be best to lynch quin then?
The implication of Dave being mafia would be that he's mafia alone and missed the night kill. There's no need for Quin to be mafia with him. It's also possible that Quin is mafia, but I have not seen any actual case for that. If you think he's the one then make the case.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:47 pm
by novaselinenever
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:43 pm Listen, I am trying to help you people keep this game fairly balanced for everyone. If you're going to lynch an obvious independent, I can't stop you. It probably is Dave.
The thing is, I don't want it fairly balanced for everyone. I want Town to crush Mafia and Anti-Town Independents, like yourself.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:48 pm
by lapluie
Uh...There's only 2 mafias left....

Elochin,nova & I are town. ...

Kyle is "3P" & you ...

That leaves quin & Dave. .

Or quin & kyle...
Either way quin is one of them.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 9]

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:49 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
novaselinenever wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:43 pm Listen, I am trying to help you people keep this game fairly balanced for everyone. If you're going to lynch an obvious independent, I can't stop you. It probably is Dave.
The thing is, I don't want it fairly balanced for everyone. I want Town to crush Mafia and Anti-Town Independents, like yourself.
This game does not feature anti-town independents. It features independents. What I am saying is that you may be on course to rob Kyle of a chance to win the game with no benefit to yourself regardless of your alignment. It's out of balance for him.