Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Day 4]
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:18 pm
The best thing about autocorrect is turning misspellings into new words altogether.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
While this gets a playful tongue face, it's worth remembering that Nanook had a different role Day 1.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:39 amUh listening to you D1 wouldve TKed me, so....passsig wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:08 amYea maybe listen to sigs wild theories next time and we could've lynched scum day 1.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:52 am A question: if we all know what a derp looks like, and we all could reasonably emulate it, why don’t you see it more often? I can’t remember the last time scum town cleated themself with something like that.
The only possible example in this game is Sig going after Radish for saying baddie. Sig might have been right. Ironically, because he might have been right, I need to re-examine Sig.![]()
These are two independent trains of thought regardless.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:40 pm To be clear I don’t super care about sig’s theory, but nothing between yesterday and today made me think “oh mac isn’t mafia”
I don't get this. "To be clear" (again, because Nanook must be aware that in some respect he isn't being clear), Mac should die but not "today." Which team were you prioritizing and why? And why were prioritizing teams?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:46 pm To be clear I support a Mac TK and still think he’s >rand scum
Just don’t think he’s scum on the team I’m prioritizing today
SVS and tranq are also votes I’m happy with. Maybe even Dom, though he seems kinda different than what I remember from being his teammate.
This is making excuses for sig instead of making sig explain himself.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:09 am I mean I guess if I squint I can see sig making a bad “slip” read to get pushback (thus discouraging cases against radish) then tying me and radish together and pushing me over him based on me defending him...
Idk I guess I could see it as a stretch but I would TK so many people over him today
"There are at minimum 4 better choices (shrug)" (but I'm not going to name any of them).NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:14 am Uh sig isn’t gonna die today, lol. There are at minimum 4 better choices
And I’m saying that as someone who had him as my second blow up choice lol
No sir. I'm in the middle of a trip to Louisiana because I'm about to drown you in a swamp and feed your body to a congregation of alligators.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:20 pm Are you in the middle of a trip to the northwest USA? Cause that's some nice cherrypicking you've got there.
This is something you've not followed up on. It's another blanket thing to throw out there. You don't name anybody doing this.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:49 pm I also think anyone hard pushing the “mac has given up, lol gottem” line should be under a close microscope tomorrow![]()
Nutella was the hardest push on it and it looked weird, she flipped town, no need to follow upEpignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:29 pmThis is something you've not followed up on. It's another blanket thing to throw out there. You don't name anybody doing this.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:49 pm I also think anyone hard pushing the “mac has given up, lol gottem” line should be under a close microscope tomorrow![]()
But then he was all over Mac D3.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:34 pm I’ll vote Radishes over Mac. I think a Mac lynch is wildly random, he’s at least hunting. In multiball or whatever that might be less effective, but I think his insight has been good.
Who's bad in here?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:54 pmNutella was the hardest push on it and it looked weird, she flipped town, no need to follow upEpignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:29 pmThis is something you've not followed up on. It's another blanket thing to throw out there. You don't name anybody doing this.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:49 pm I also think anyone hard pushing the “mac has given up, lol gottem” line should be under a close microscope tomorrow![]()
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Not sure tbh. Haven’t really had time to go through vote stuff, initial leaning is like you sprit Colin in some orderEpignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:56 pmWho's bad in here?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:54 pmNutella was the hardest push on it and it looked weird, she flipped town, no need to follow upEpignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:29 pmThis is something you've not followed up on. It's another blanket thing to throw out there. You don't name anybody doing this.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:49 pm I also think anyone hard pushing the “mac has given up, lol gottem” line should be under a close microscope tomorrow![]()
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Yep.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:46 am I think I’m a pretty easy push for scum to make tbh
CivTurnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:30 am GtH tedextr civ or scum? @ColinIsCool @Dom @Epignosis @Jackofhearts2005 @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @sprityo @s~v~s @Dyslexicon
i'm lynching for scum equity but this would explain a lot of his early hedge off radishes and sig, where he blatantly goes "idgaf about the radishes , nook, sig fight" and focuses on mac instead lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:05 pm I don’t understand why we’d even lynch for antimonitor equity.
2 wolves on that team, one has been IDed and isn’t here.
The other team has 3 wolves and....Jay, Sloonei and Juliets aren’t here but still.
I’m just generally townreading you but haven’t seen a reason you can’t be scum with one or both teams.
yeah i'm townJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:21 pmI’m just generally townreading you but haven’t seen a reason you can’t be scum with one or both teams.
As opposed to like Epi, who I think specifically isn’t on either team.
Is there a reason to think you shouldn’t be on either team?
This post is a problem. Why is it logical to call Sprit scum for TMI, but then it's also logical to call Sig town for the same thing?tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:39 amFrom what I understood, his suspicion came from a place of him believing mac targeted him along with sprit's sudden push on him, which he called sprit scum for, which I can follow through. Sprit's vote and push is completely nonsensical unless he has TMI and I don't see anything scummy about connecting the dots that way?
This is also confusing. How was Mac outed scum? He was no more outed scum than Sig. Confusing. Was he outed for you? And when did you start to suspect Mac? Cause you town read him earlier in the game.tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:30 pm There’s just something illogical that doesn’t sit right with me. If there’s the slightest chance sig is a town, why are you voting for him instead of basically outed wolf Mac no matter sig’s alignment? If it’s so clear to you that he TMI’d Mac, why wouldn’t you ask yourself “is this a wolf tming or a town tming” and vote for him instead of Mac?
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Mmm interesting. This is fine and could be right but could definitely be coming from a member of the Master mafia.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:23 pm hello boys
sprityo could be the anti-monitor imo. His ISO only takes like ten minutes to read if anyone feels like going through it.
First half of sprit's ISO he weakly shades Jack (threatening to do so all the game), the second half he sinks his teeth into Mac and his posts become 90% about Mac. No consideration or banter, in sprit's mind Mac is basically confirmed bad, which makes sense if he was teamed with sig
anyways read his quick little ISO and tell me what you think
Agreed. His interaction analyses have been lazy and I haven't agreed with all the conclusions so he could be putting some spin on them, and beyond those I agree that he generally doesn't feel quite right. Sadly he's not in this level but for future reference he is on my shortlist of potential Mac teammates. Though I never really did the homework on that like I said I was going to (not being able to see the thread at all for two days may be part of thatEpignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:53 pmJJJ has sounded like a tool to me this entire time. So phony. He's going through the motions.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:50 am Lol don't let this exercise fool you. Jay is Mac's teammate.
(I say this based on him being so quick to dismiss my Mac "equity" as if he knows I'm innocent. I'm not sure I actually think this yet but I thought it would sound smart. I'll do some homework on it tomorrow.)
I mooooostly agree with these takes though I am more skeptical on ted and epiJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:04 am ColinIsCool - Colin is a big meh this game and has equity with Mac.
Dom - Dom is town
Epignosis - Epi is town
Jackofhearts2005 - Jack is town
Nanook - I don't have a great read on Nanook but he seems fine. Probably can say he's not scum with Mac.
sprityo - Not scum with Mac in spite of Jay's blahdyblah. I kinda don't feel like he's giving the least shits possible as the last member of team Sig/Sabie/Radishes but then again, I've seen Sprityo give no shits as a serial killer so I'm not locking him in as town. Also, he'd literally have to be exactly the Antimonitor to be scum.
tedxtr - Feels real town. Probably has antialignment with some of our lynches if I paid him enough attention.
Turnip Head - Pretty strong wolf equity with Mac what with defending him without really saying why and attacking players who attacked him. Like the best argument for TH being town is maybe wolf TH wouldn't be quite that blatant. Fairly sure he's not the 4th AM wolf.
So yeah, looking at Colin and TH. Open to hearing a case on Nanook or Ted but I doubt I'll follow one.
im having yun qui flashbacks dont pull this family shitTurnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:08 am I'm hearing strange and foreign names like JJJ, G-Man, and juliets bring bandied about. No, we don't need any of those. We're a family now. Let's smoke cigars, get matching jackets, and then at the end of the day ritualistically sacrifice the life force of one of our members
Lol yikes. Yeah sprityo is the antimonitor lmaosprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:12 am Yeah I’ve been slacking this game
But it’s been on purpose I assure you
If anything I would be fine with taking the L for today, since we as a town have been doing really good.
Also let’s not forget the mechanics of inception mafia today, there’s at least one mafia for each level if it’s staying true to the original
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:53 am The ghost of Macdougall haunts this place.
Nanook is the anti monitor. Sprityo is the cop. My team is gonna win. Sorry about being a prick Dom.
I have a hard time seeing this post as anything besides a wolf talking about a townie.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:05 pm I'm surprised Colin is willing to give such a decisive read of me, especially after I fooled him so thoroughly (and lovingly!) In Firefly
So he's not bad, and you know it, and you know that you're bad and successfully fooling him again.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:13 pm Bad Colin would take advantage of me fooling him in Firefly to shade me bad here
Bro he's scum lol.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:47 pmTown most never be told to eat shit.
Nobody learns a lesson when a fellow townie throws up a middle finger and lets himself get lynched. Nobody feels bad. They just blame the lynchee for being salty instead of trying to help the town.
Plus, some of the players you think “don’t want you” really don’t. Because they’re wolves. They’re not gonna learn anything from this lynch beyond that you rolled over for them.
What are you talking about?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:22 pmYou wanna make sure nobody feels like you’re a hypocrite or you wanna catch wolves? Cause I bet if we don’t find fault in anyone defending Mac just because at least one townie did so, we’re gonna have a hard time finding his partners.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:26 pm Hard defense of Mac, one which continues further down the thread. I also hard defended Mac so I can't hold it against them.
Throughout TH's ISO I find myself agreeing with them more often than not, and I don't have anything that I can say is especially scummy.![]()
What exactly are you agreeing with in TH’s iso? Like you said, he’s defended wolves would much explanation.
I doTurnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:07 pmThat he likes meJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:06 pmWhat does that tell you about his alignment?Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:05 pm I'm surprised Colin is willing to give such a decisive read of me, especially after I fooled him so thoroughly (and lovingly!) In Firefly
I mean like, I can basically confirm as not on the master’s team because I lead the lynch on Mac. If you got anything like that for yourself or anyone else, I’d love to hear it.tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:41 pmyeah i'm townJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:21 pmI’m just generally townreading you but haven’t seen a reason you can’t be scum with one or both teams.
As opposed to like Epi, who I think specifically isn’t on either team.
Is there a reason to think you shouldn’t be on either team?
like i honestly don't know what answer you wanted here. what's this question achieving. were you expecting to town case myself, i've never done that lmao. it's because i'm so irrational to the point where town casing myself would sell nothing for you and you know it. when have you ever played a game with me and went "off his logic, he's town"? Let's not lie to ourselves, whenever you played with me, the general feeling you got was "is he talking and feeling like a civ here?" or "did he lynch a scum yet?" asking me to make a logical case on myself when people expect to read me off general feeling is![]()
maybe not people here, but you would anyway. and michelle probs
This is the best point I’ve seen for Sprityo being scum and I kinda dig it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:01 pm OoooOOOooOOooOoOO GHOST oOOOOoOOOOoooOOooooo
I went through ISOs, but honestly I think I became blind in the process.
The two likeliest for anti-monitor is still Sprit and Ted.
Ted:
- Has no progression on Radish, but votes him D1.
- Weird arch nemesis interaction with Sabie N2 (??)
This post is a problem. Why is it logical to call Sprit scum for TMI, but then it's also logical to call Sig town for the same thing?tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:39 amFrom what I understood, his suspicion came from a place of him believing mac targeted him along with sprit's sudden push on him, which he called sprit scum for, which I can follow through. Sprit's vote and push is completely nonsensical unless he has TMI and I don't see anything scummy about connecting the dots that way?
I have big trouble seeing this mindset.
Like, you're basically saying that it makes sense for Sig to accuse Sprit of the exact same thing I accused Sig of. "Sig thinks Sprit has TMI of Mac being scum and calls Sprit scum for it. That makes sense." But somehow, in the case of Sig who's word by word showing actual TMI, that's just being interpreted as town for Sig.
So explain that please.
This is also confusing. How was Mac outed scum? He was no more outed scum than Sig. Confusing. Was he outed for you? And when did you start to suspect Mac? Cause you town read him earlier in the game.tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:30 pm There’s just something illogical that doesn’t sit right with me. If there’s the slightest chance sig is a town, why are you voting for him instead of basically outed wolf Mac no matter sig’s alignment? If it’s so clear to you that he TMI’d Mac, why wouldn’t you ask yourself “is this a wolf tming or a town tming” and vote for him instead of Mac?
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-One thing that makes Ted not anti-monitor though, is his insistence that Sig's theory of Mac being Saitama-guy was ill informed and bad. He insisted that Mac was definitely not on that team.
There's some bravado about being on Sabie that feels off. Also the dip in activity around the Sig accusation. I don't know.
Sprit:
No. I'm not going to shut up. I'm still in the game per the ghost mechanics. I literally gave you all a Sig is 100% scum and tried to shoot Mac and that's why Sig assumes Mac is scum. Why are you so angry about that if you're town?
This really just looks like salt about town doing good right now. Why the "wait for town to win" - what town would be so confident and sure about this, and have such a salty tone about it?
I'm really asking everyone here. This does not look like town to me at all. It looks like salty scum having lost their team. And after this it's like "I wouldn't mind being the lynch" and moments later "I'll be damned if I'm lynched". I just really don't get the a town vibe from this attitude.
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-Michelle honestly have some pretty awkward Radish-team interaction as well. But she's not on the poll.
-I ISOed Turnip a bit, but I'm not enthusiastic about the prospect of him being scum anymore. Could happen i guess.
-I don't see why Jack would drop the Nut case if teamed with competing D1 wagon Radish tbh. Unless he tried to push the wagon to someone else, but I don't remember.
-I have no fucking clue about Nanook. Most of his posts are defending himself or threading water. I don't see him making actual reads or pushes.
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Jay and Juliets are my biggest suspects for teamed with Mac.
I think all of Dom, G-Man, Tony and Epi looks town. Tranq honestly probs town, but I'll never understand hyper lurking.
I don't have a 100% now. =( Good luck, guys.
“I hard defended Mac so I can’t held it against him.”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:53 pmWhat are you talking about?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:22 pmYou wanna make sure nobody feels like you’re a hypocrite or you wanna catch wolves? Cause I bet if we don’t find fault in anyone defending Mac just because at least one townie did so, we’re gonna have a hard time finding his partners.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:26 pm Hard defense of Mac, one which continues further down the thread. I also hard defended Mac so I can't hold it against them.
Throughout TH's ISO I find myself agreeing with them more often than not, and I don't have anything that I can say is especially scummy.![]()
What exactly are you agreeing with in TH’s iso? Like you said, he’s defended wolves would much explanation.
I don’t think defending Mac makes you scummy. I agreed with them on that, as well as on Radishes and a few other stray assessments I don’t remember right now.
What part of this is confusing?
Not while making a kill he can’t.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:14 pm We can't isolate sig because he can switch targets, which I assume counts roleblocks, or would the block take precedence over his architect power?
Sprityo is uninterested in and uninspired by the Nanook1 vs Sig fight.sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:58 amI guess, maybe? It didn’t interest me at allJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:01 amFor Mac, horrible sound quality.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:43 pmIn due time you sexy voiced man. If you can help me by giving me an outline of your current thoughts that might give me something to chew on. I am a very busy boy sadly so I'm probably gonna be less dog with a bone than most are acquainted with.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:41 pm Really though Mac, I draw zero inspiration from calling you an orange boy given that you've done nothing. Show me that I don't have to default.![]()
The meatiest stuff to dig into when time permits is probably sig vs. Nanook re: the Radish "slip". starts around here or so. Left to their own mortal kombat, they've both emerged looking less than bueno to me.
Uninspired by it
This is fairly limp.sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:13 am Cool I’m caught up
@JaggedJimmyJay you said that I was nominated for mvp for a reason. Now I totally could’ve nominated myself but I didn’t (so thank you to whoever did that) but your statement for that was hollow in that I play mafia my way and that’s how I get results. Same as everyone. So if you want MVP material you’re just gonna have to wait for it because it’ll come with time.
What’d Mac say in Inception to the scum team? “Sprityo is a crucial mislynch” although I like to think of myself more like a snowball
Enough about me though-
I don’t care about this nanook sig radishes kerfuffle that happened between pages 6 and 10 roughly, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say jack is mafia this game. Just pure gut. I have no reason other than I think it.
Also Dom is here, huzzah! I enjoyed playing with Dom in Inception and can’t wait for another game with him. Same to Dizzy, I love their zanyness.
Jay is also 100% town. Don’t ask me why
That’s my lukewarm takes, Jack bad, jay good
[VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine
Still nothing to say about Radishes.sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:14 amDon’t know, don’t care at the momentSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:13 amI got that. But we’re talking about it now. What’s your read on SVS and Radishes?sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:08 amDon’t worry, I was just being petty and salty over what has transpired for the past 3 years of mafiaSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:45 amWutsprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:36 amWish I could get that kind of relief when I say something of no significance.
I’ll remember this for later, if not a later game sloonei![]()
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CivTurnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:30 am GtH tedextr civ or scum? @ColinIsCool @Dom @Epignosis @Jackofhearts2005 @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @sprityo @s~v~s @Dyslexicon