The Syndicate

hmmm

Epi should be voting for me after all he's said this round.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

I mean he's voiced suspicion on Long-Kun but I'm surprised he isn't thrilled with my wagon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

I'm sort of mrrrring a bit about LC's response to suddenly being a wagon, I feel like they got a lot more focused on one particular narrative after they became a wagon

like, before they became a wagon they were expressing a lot of uncertainty about who they wanted to vote:

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:30 pm I don't want to vote for 112 or Hally.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:30 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine I'll trust my past instincts. This is where I land.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:32 pm Four hours left in the day though, so I would jump over to a Nanook or Epignosis wagon. Or even Arete.

and although they eventually landed on 112, they expressed some nervousness (e.g. saying that they didn't want to vote them) and not being sure if they wanted to vote them or someone else.

after they became a wagon, they were a lot more focused on pushing 1 specific world, the one where 112 and Epi are W/W.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:21 pm Epignosis' reason for suspecting me is mostly or all OMGUS.

Epignosis has a much larger volume of 112 suspicion. BIG case, drawing out many points.

112 is in trouble; Epignosis votes for Long Con.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:28 pm Looking at dunya and 112. dunya pushes on 112 all day 1, and leaves her vote there despite it being a vanity wagon at the time. I believe this is distancing from a teammate. She drops little tidbits like the following two posts:

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:35 pm i also don't believe that post where hally saw 112's scum game on here and called her play itt as spontaneous or looser. i did not get that impression from her iso at all, just the opposite. would be interesting to see what hally's role is if 112 flips mafia. <---- use for future ref.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:32 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:27 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:20 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:16 pm so im looking at michelle's iso. how did she go from having good feelings about me from the last time i posted to...bad feelings about me?

Cause she's a wolf.

can you link me to why as im sure you have a reason posted but forgive me for not being up to date (im trying to stay current and say down with ketchup, but happy to iso people)

I won't bother linking because I've said various things throughout the thread but haven't gone and made like one big wallpost on him or anything. But the first thing that set me off was him pre-announcing that he was going to play differently this game. And then a bunch of times I felt like what he was saying didn't feel genuine. I got really set off by him townreading Arete early for what looked like nothing to me and that he couldn't articulate why. And I didn't like him locktowning tony and trying to lynch lhf instead.

But I dunno. He looks really genuine at the moment. Feeling like I could have misjudged.

i am confused

@tedxtr why wont you vote 112?

...intended to implicate Hally and tedxtr if 112 gets chopped.

The team is Epignosis and 112.

rather than trying to sort people's alignments, they start being specifically very focused on getting Epi/112 voted out.

I don't think being pushy or aggressive is wolfy but I'm concerned that they specifically got pushy only after they became a legitimate and serious wagon, it makes me think that they're mostly focused on trying to get us to vote *not them*.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm I mean he's voiced suspicion on Long-Kun but I'm surprised he isn't thrilled with my wagon.

What's my angle?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.

And, if I suspected you in a manner that was not "OMGUSsy," what would that look like?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm I mean he's voiced suspicion on Long-Kun but I'm surprised he isn't thrilled with my wagon.

What's my angle?

You tell me.

Actually, [mention]Arete[/mention], after Epi voted me, I wanted to look at his ISO to see what actual reasons he had expressed, because I recalled only the OMGUS. I noticed that he had a great deal of focus on 112, with much more "evidence" presented. This looked like a suspicious connection, so I cross-referenced with dunya's treatment of 112, and it looked a lot more like a team is possible there.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm I mean he's voiced suspicion on Long-Kun but I'm surprised he isn't thrilled with my wagon.

What's my angle?

Pure unadulterated badass

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:00 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm I mean he's voiced suspicion on Long-Kun but I'm surprised he isn't thrilled with my wagon.

What's my angle?

You tell me.

Right.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:01 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:00 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm I mean he's voiced suspicion on Long-Kun but I'm surprised he isn't thrilled with my wagon.

What's my angle?

You tell me.

Right.

Satisfactory.

I'm good for Wilgy/Epignosis chops.

I'll vote LC if it comes down to some form of 112/LC/Hally.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.

And, if I suspected you in a manner that was not "OMGUSsy," what would that look like?

It would be more than "Long Con knows me better than this". Like, dude, I didn't even expect to see you in a Mafia game again, and suddenly you're subbing in. You expect me to place you in a category of "Oh, of course he doesn't want to be here and he has no time, and he looks at screens all day, and he'd rather be with his family" and put you in a special little place where you can't be suspected? You want everyone to believe that you ACTUALLY expected that to be my angle of approaching you? Just me as well.

Sorry, friend, but that is 100% bullshit.

when ppl vote for hally:



(haha)

Epi, why do you trust Wilgy?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:26 pm Don't understand. 112 is already in trouble.

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.

And, if I suspected you in a manner that was not "OMGUSsy," what would that look like?

It would be more than "Long Con knows me better than this". Like, dude, I didn't even expect to see you in a Mafia game again, and suddenly you're subbing in. You expect me to place you in a category of "Oh, of course he doesn't want to be here and he has no time, and he looks at screens all day, and he'd rather be with his family" and put you in a special little place where you can't be suspected? You want everyone to believe that you ACTUALLY expected that to be my angle of approaching you? Just me as well.

Sorry, friend, but that is 100% bullshit.

None of that tells me why I can't suspect you.

"OMGUS" is weak ass shit that ultimately stems from "I said you were bad first. Therefore you can't say I'm bad." It has no basis in reason.

I think you're annoyed that I subbed in and named you as mafia when up until this point, things were going clean for you.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm Epi, why do you trust Wilgy?

Never said I did.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

I don't think this will get you much cred with me if he flips bad, just so you know.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

I don't think this will get you much cred with me if he flips bad, just so you know.

If.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:00 pm Actually, @Arete, after Epi voted me, I wanted to look at his ISO to see what actual reasons he had expressed, because I recalled only the OMGUS. I noticed that he had a great deal of focus on 112, with much more "evidence" presented. This looked like a suspicious connection, so I cross-referenced with dunya's treatment of 112, and it looked a lot more like a team is possible there.

hm

I guess that kind of makes sense

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

I don't think this will get you much cred with me if he flips bad, just so you know.

cred is for nerds

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:58 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:53 pm

By my hand. Nobody (but me) was voting 112 before today.

And now you are OMGUS voting me instead. Now that it's real.

What was my Day 2 vote of you?

Ill-supported and OMGUSsy.

And, if I suspected you in a manner that was not "OMGUSsy," what would that look like?

It would be more than "Long Con knows me better than this". Like, dude, I didn't even expect to see you in a Mafia game again, and suddenly you're subbing in. You expect me to place you in a category of "Oh, of course he doesn't want to be here and he has no time, and he looks at screens all day, and he'd rather be with his family" and put you in a special little place where you can't be suspected? You want everyone to believe that you ACTUALLY expected that to be my angle of approaching you? Just me as well.

Sorry, friend, but that is 100% bullshit.

None of that tells me why I can't suspect you.

"OMGUS" is weak ass shit that ultimately stems from "I said you were bad first. Therefore you can't say I'm bad." It has no basis in reason.

I think you're annoyed that I subbed in and named you as mafia when up until this point, things were going clean for you.

Everything you said here is wrong.

I didn't tell you that you can't suspect me, I told you what your suspicion looks like.

Your definition is incorrect. OMGUS is that you suspect me BECAUSE I suspect you. And let's not get all highbrow "basis in reason" here - this is what is happening, here and now. This isn't a philosophy debate.

I'm not annoyed at all. Things don't go clean for me, ever. Due to my early-slanking playstyle, I am almost never in any agreed-upon towncore, and this game is no different. Your suspicion was a smirk at best.

What is happening with this vote count?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:09 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:08 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:07 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

I don't think this will get you much cred with me if he flips bad, just so you know.

If.

Did you want a 'when'?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm What is happening with this vote count?

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes

Also lol at Hally saying "I'm the best lynch" and then voting LC a couple of posts later.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm What is happening with this vote count?

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes

for the homies

"This isn't a ploy, I really believe this."

"Actually, never mind"

I look away for two minutes and Hally is at risk what

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:17 pm I look away for two minutes and Hally is at risk what

sus post

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:17 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:17 pm I look away for two minutes and Hally is at risk what

sus post

we all know hally is a bad yeet, we were just fishing for reactions

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:16 pm "This isn't a ploy, I really believe this."

"Actually, never mind"

Wait, is this your reactions to me?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:19 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:16 pm "This isn't a ploy, I really believe this."

"Actually, never mind"

Wait, is this your reactions to me?

He's talking about Hally's "yeet me" talk.

Never mind, it's to Hally. Sorry.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:19 pm

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:16 pm "This isn't a ploy, I really believe this."

"Actually, never mind"

Wait, is this your reactions to me?

No this is me paraphrasing Hally.

Good morning

Oh the wagons

Hi Chan!

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:23 pm Good morning

Hi!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:24 pmHi Chan!

Hey hey hey!

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:24 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:23 pm Good morning

Hi!

Why are we not lynching you again?

I have to read like 4 pages would do that

Poison walking into thread like

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:25 pm

112 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:24 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:23 pm Good morning

Hi!

Why are we not lynching you again?

We're gunning for a different towny, obviously. I can be tomorrow's mislim.