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Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:26 pm**

Ok sorry.

Either way, I don't wanna lynch ID in this century.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:27 pm**

Linear algebra doesn't take 15 hours.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:28 pm**

I mean, I really doubt vote manipulation abilities are why Jack is taking full days to make lynch posts. I know because Ive hosted games before. This shit is easy.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:31 pm**

Regardlessly, we know Jay got lynched by having one less vote and being the early vote.

Probability makes it hard for mafia to have manipulated it. They'd have to have triple vote power. Or a day ability that changes votes. Powerful stuff.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:39 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:08 pm Cuz Gwilkers claimed to have x2 vote power when voting for a baddie.

So either he is BSing us, or ID is a civ, or there is another ability in play. The last is unlikely since the host just gave away that there was only one vote manioulation ability in this lynch.

It's not just a claim right? It's part of his actual ability.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:41 pm**

The Monk wrote:Monster Slayer - Your vote counts double against wyvern riders, pirates, anyone with a mercenary background, shamen and non townies. (It doesn't count triple against pirates who aren't town or similar.)

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:44 pm**

*fades into bolivian*

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:50 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:27 pm Linear algebra doesn't take 15 hours.

I'm really bad at math.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:51 pm**

Some protective services for ID would be welcome. RIP JJJ. Who should I misdirect tonight?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:54 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:51 pm Some protective services for ID would be welcome. RIP JJJ. Who should I misdirect tonight?

Quin

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:59 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:51 pm Some protective services for ID would be welcome. RIP JJJ. Who should I misdirect tonight?
Quin

Done.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:04 pm**

k same question for me, who should I misdirect?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:06 pm**

can I also ask what people's reasonings are for the recruitment poll? [mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]Marmot[/mention] [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] why Kenway?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:06 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:04 pm k same question for me, who should I misdirect?

Long Con

(I'm kidding)

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:07 pm**

I townread Kenway. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm**

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] who did you target last night?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:20 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:06 pm can I also ask what people's reasonings are for the recruitment poll? @speedchuck @Marmot @Dragon D. Luffy why Kenway?

Dunya gave a good reason why he is a civ. Meta reason. From experience those kind of truth metas usually do not fail.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:21 pm**

Guys, stop saying who you will misdirect out loud. You are just inviting mafia to use their actions on you if you announce a baddie target.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:23 pm**

Heck, I suspect anyone who goes "guys who should I target today" in the thread.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:25 pm**

Oh, here we go...

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?

Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?
Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Uh... yes?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:06 pm can I also ask what people's reasonings are for the recruitment poll? @speedchuck @Marmot @Dragon D. Luffy why Kenway?

He's cute and a civilian and a mage.

Who else should I vote?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:29 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:21 pm Guys, stop saying who you will misdirect out loud. You are just inviting mafia to use their actions on you if you announce a baddie target.

1. It's WIFOM for scum to deal with.

2. Look at the role. It's not really something that can be dealt with.

3. I don't actually know how targeting their redirector would help them?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:31 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?
Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?
Uh... yes?

You won't like it

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:31 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:29 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:21 pm Guys, stop saying who you will misdirect out loud. You are just inviting mafia to use their actions on you if you announce a baddie target.
1. It's WIFOM for scum to deal with.

2. Look at the role. It's not really something that can be dealt with.

3. I don't actually know how targeting their redirector would help them?

Why providing WIFOM for scum to deal with when you can just shut up and not provide info at all?

And of course it does. If they are redirecting a member of mafia, it's bad for the mafia. They could redirect a kill. Trgetting them with a roleblock/redirect whatever makes it likely they will just waste their ability.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:32 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?
Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?
Uh... yes?
You won't like it

I don't care. Spill it.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:33 pm**

And yes, it is something that can be dealt with. By arches. Or fliers. Or whatever role madness shit they may have.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:34 pm**

Well it just so happens that I AM a flier, so I am the one who is tough to deal with. I am the one who knocks.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:34 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:33 pm And yes, it is something that can be dealt with. By arches.

That's how my daddy went. Flew into an arch!

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 pm**

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] any idea why I failed to misdirect you last night?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:40 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:34 pm Well it just so happens that I AM a flier, so I am the one who is tough to deal with. I am the one who knocks.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:44 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:38 pm colonialbob any idea why I failed to misdirect you last night?

Nope.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:47 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?
Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?

Yes, I'm aware.

Why would it not?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:49 pm**

[mention]colonialbob[/mention] I'm just interested in your answer. Mine is below.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:32 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:26 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:17 pm @speedchuck who did you target last night?
Last night, I votestole.

Does it matter whose?
Uh... yes?
You won't like it
I don't care. Spill it.

Yours, bro.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:52 pm**

Wait, ok, so what does that mean to this final poll?

Day 3

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, McDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[6] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: sig (but a good effort)

Much vote manipulation. Very unexpect

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:55 pm**

Yeah. Iron Dwarf should be dead.

Actually, wait, how does vote stealing work? Did DDL automatically vote alongside me, or should I have PMed the host? Because if I had to PM the host a second time to redirect DDLvote, then nothing happened.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:00 pm**

It was obvious but I needed confirmation.

So Jay had 5 votes and ID had 7. If ID is bad then he had 8.

This doesn't seem like something a single vote manipulator can do. This is a lynch stopper ability.

Which makes me mad because there seems to be at least 3 lynch stopper abilities in this game, and they have been used in all days so far. This is a very pro-mafia setup if I've seen one.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:02 pm**

Vote stealing causes the player whose vote is stolen to count for zero and their normal vote count (ie 1 for most players, 2 for double voters, etc) is added to the stealer's vote count (making them a double, triple, etc voter for the day).

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:03 pm**

I'm more willing to vote for ID now.

Though I'm also willing to not vote at all because this is starting to feel like not a mafia game at all.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:06 pm**

huh.... I'm pretty lost now

but should we really assume anything from that either? like speedchuck's vote steal could also have been misdirected or manipulated or something, right? and we still don't know what other shenanigans might have been in play. like I didn't want to assume ID had to be civ based on that result, and with this new info I don't think we should assume anything either

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:08 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:06 pm huh.... I'm pretty lost now

but should we really assume anything from that either? like speedchuck's vote steal could also have been misdirected or manipulated or something, right? and we still don't know what other shenanigans might have been in play. like I didn't want to assume ID had to be civ based on that result, and with this new info I don't think we should assume anything either

Well thats true.

To be fair we did vote for Jay so we only got ourselves to blame. Sorry for bashing your game jack.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:10 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:20 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:06 pm can I also ask what people's reasonings are for the recruitment poll? @speedchuck @Marmot @Dragon D. Luffy why Kenway?
Dunya gave a good reason why he is a civ. Meta reason. From experience those kind of truth metas usually do not fail.

ok that's reasonable I'm in

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:11 pm**

Would you look at that!

But alas. I had 4 extra votes.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:23 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:11 pm Would you look at that!

But alas. I had 4 extra votes.

Lol

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:28 pm**

I actually lost my vote and submitted a can of creamed corn instead.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:33 pm**

So Jay had 9 votes and ID had 7 or 8 votes.

Awesome.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:33 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:28 pm I actually lost my vote and submitted a can of creamed corn instead.

the twin peaks game hasn't started yet chill out

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:33 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:34 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:33 pm And yes, it is something that can be dealt with. By arches.
That's how my daddy went. Flew into an arch!

did you sue mcdonald's

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:38 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:33 pm So Jay had 9 votes and ID had 7 or 8 votes.

Awesome.

I didn't really have four extra votes

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