Re: Ancient Greece Mafia [Day 6]
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:34 am
To Be Continued
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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yeah you're not wrong. I've been ocupado, apologies. But I'm gonna try to be more of a presence coming down to end game. Swearsie-realsies.
If we’re buddies then I’ve been bussing him since the sun started rising in the skyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:40 am Someone shoulda analyze Scotty and Nova to see if they are likely buddies or nah.
Gut says nah but that’s a really uninformed read cause I haven’t ISOed Nova or Scotty/Nova interactions.
dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:28 amspeed claimed burn out, his role gets passed to the next in command, and his death gives Persians an advantage and puts us in a a possible lylo situation. do I think he would have been a perfect target to buss yesterday? yes, I do.
Gonna look at day 5 and see what happened before I waste time with ISOs. sometimes focusing on specific people distracts from the bigger picture.
I can't remember, but I have complete faith in your detective skills
Kyle, TH, Wolbre, CBob, MP, Sloonei
I feel like my vote was kinda the tipping point?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:10 amKyle, TH, Wolbre, CBob, MP, Sloonei
Jack and Daisy had actual cases and went after Speed before he was going to be lynched. Choutas is dead.
Alt wagon was Marmot, Scotty, Quin, Speed
Let’s see that Scotty/MP research.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:07 am Hi. Sorry I've been absent, I had to write on my Friday off and also tomorrow and just couldn't this evening. Ill pay more attention tomorrow I promise.
Speedchuck / Scotty / Jack / MP
S & S - gonna be honest, vague feelings. Need to research.
Like Jack's effort recently. More please. Make me believe you're town looking to solve vs maf deciding to try when you finally catch heat.
MP - reasons I laid out yesterday. Will make a better more formal case tomorrow.
I'm less suspish of MP than I was, but yeah I owe y'all some book reports. Might have to wait until tonight when I can get on my computer.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:17 amLet’s see that Scotty/MP research.colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:07 am Hi. Sorry I've been absent, I had to write on my Friday off and also tomorrow and just couldn't this evening. Ill pay more attention tomorrow I promise.
Speedchuck / Scotty / Jack / MP
S & S - gonna be honest, vague feelings. Need to research.
Like Jack's effort recently. More please. Make me believe you're town looking to solve vs maf deciding to try when you finally catch heat.
MP - reasons I laid out yesterday. Will make a better more formal case tomorrow.
That post itself was YOUR reaction to getting pressured. Day reviews should start like an hour before that post. You didn't play ^ that card unprovoked.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 am http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 08#p438608
^Day reviews should start here. First serious push on Speedchuck.
How does everyone react to this?
This post is bad indicative. Does not address Speedchuck case. Doubles down on his weaksauce vote for me even though his reason for voting me just went away. Hedges on a future scum Speed flip, calling my case “distancing.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 am How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.
And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?
I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.
I haven’t flipped mafia (or anything) so who cares? Analysis should be around reactions to the Speed lynch.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:19 amThat post itself was YOUR reaction to getting pressured. Day reviews should start like an hour before that post. You didn't play ^ that card unprovoked.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 am http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 08#p438608
^Day reviews should start here. First serious push on Speedchuck.
How does everyone react to this?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:22 amI haven’t flipped mafia (or anything) so who cares? Analysis should be around reactions to the Speed lynch.
Super town indicative postSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 am Jack is town. I am going to [VOTE: nova] aubergine
I thought I was going to give him a pass because he didn't know me but everything I've seen develop since then.... Nope. I am definitely voting here.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:25 am Yesterday ReviewSuper town indicative postSpacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 am Jack is town. I am going to [VOTE: nova] aubergine
I thought I was going to give him a pass because he didn't know me but everything I've seen develop since then.... Nope. I am definitely voting here.
1) Recognizes town behavior, derailing the attempt to discredit me.
2) Does not move to bus Speed for credit.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:28 am Yesterday ReviewNova essentially ignores my Speed case and focuses on defending himself from me and Daisy.Spoiler: show
Not the best look.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:53 amwho was pressuring jackScotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 am How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.
And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?
I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.
Kyle comes in with this. You could maybe read this as a dig on Scotty/TH and a defense on me and then a setup to bus Speed but they may all just be catchup questions.
Yucky salad. Nobody was talking about these players except Nova.
Agreed. Hence “not the best” but I’m pinged by Scotty, Wolbre and Marmot more so far.dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:36 am I can't say simply not addressing your speed case makes nova look bad there. when you're the counterwagon to speed and people are throwing shit your way, your priority is to clear your name and get the voters off you.
like I said, townies have 2 responsibilities:
1. to vote
2. to not get mislynched
In Seinfeld, I remember Supertown Jay went after me every phase and since I had limited time to play, most of my contributions were self defences and hopping on bandwagons. I was Town though, but all my effort went into saving myself from accusations and a mislynch.
I don't care about the vote on me, but what's the relationship between Choutas, Nova and TH exactly -- why are they team compatible -- and why does my Towniness incriminate them?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:38 am Yesterday Review
Yucky salad. Nobody was talking about these players except Nova.
Feels fake since he asked what we were doing and then did his own (soft) thing immediately after.
could you like... dig into this for me moreJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:38 am Yesterday Review
Yucky salad. Nobody was talking about these players except Nova.
Feels fake since he asked what we were doing and then did his own (soft) thing immediately after.
It's a convenient thing to do in the case he gets lynched someday, making you accurate.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 9:07 amIf we’re buddies then I’ve been bussing him since the sun started rising in the skyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:40 am Someone shoulda analyze Scotty and Nova to see if they are likely buddies or nah.
Gut says nah but that’s a really uninformed read cause I haven’t ISOed Nova or Scotty/Nova interactions.
#1Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.
I forgot that he was the first to cast doubt on me here. Why is he defending speedchuck?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:11 pmCause Speedchuck has done GTH like once or twice and anyway, how is that AI?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:08 pm#whyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:04 pm#disagreeScotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:14 pmThe whole premise of Gun to Head is that it is just that- assumptions you would make on people if you had a gun to your head. Not organized beforehand where you say “ok, I’m thinking I’ll maybe call him bad and him good and oh! Looks like I need to come up with a few more grease monkeys!”speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:03 pmIs it? I'm new to GTH. I thought the gun was only supposed to force you to say town or scum instead of null.
Bad look
lol it’s currently Day 6, and he was lynched yesterday. Coincidence?? I don’t even understand the context of this or why he said it. It wasn’t in response to anything. WtfJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:32 pm I’ll tell you what Speedchuck’s real alignment is on Day 6.
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#3Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:44 pmIKR?
I caught you and now you’ll get away with it.
#4Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:12 am @Dom
Speedchuck, Wolbre, Sloonei.
Luna, I don’t know about. She’s new. What people suspect her for is one post from another player. Do I think that scared Colin distances from a teammate in this scenario? Probably. But I’ve also never played with Colin and only seen his town play in FE so that’s a fair amount to bet without good info. I think Colin avoiding the Sloonei and Sig wagons because Sloonei is a mate to be more convincing.
LC I’m pretty null on. I’m not even shook after I last mislynched him in...MK? I just am not paying much attention to him.
Wolbre especially looks bad if Sloonei is bad. He had the wafflyiest defense of Sloonei since Sloonei threw away his eggo shield.
Speed, I just just don’t buy his rainbow. There are three neutrals and a large town. Two players are messing around. So he thinks they’re both bad? No way, Jose. That rainbow list is made up.
#5Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:26 pmCause you need fall guys cause you so bad.
#6Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:33 pm Speedchuck so bad, Michael Jackson gave him the rights to that song.
Speedchuck so evil, Thanos thinks his plans are a bit much.
Speedchuck so corrupt, Republicans are going to nominate him to run for president in 2024.
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#8Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 11:10 am Lol Luna and Speedchuck bad together. So romantic.
#9Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 12:28 pm @speedchuck
Is this the game you aren’t playing in or the one where you are bad?
#10Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:35 pm Okay gimmie gth reads on:
Speedchuck
Speedchuck
Speedchuck
Speedchuck
And why is he bad?
#10.5Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:50 pmI forget.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:49 pm Could one of you guys at least tell people WHY you think I'm bad? I really hope it's not "because meta."
#11 (and this is in response to speed calling sprit GTH bad even tho he wasn’t in the game)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:02 pm And that is why Speedchuck is bad.
This is called scumhunting.
#12Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:06 pmBecause I’m a detective and I outsmarted you.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:04 pmBecause I'm not paying enough attention to the game?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 3:02 pm And that is why Speedchuck is bad.
This is called scumhunting.
Or because I think a player that had completely evaded notice could be bad?
Therefore, you have to be the bad guy or else what am I even doing, right?
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#14. This is when he starts really laying out a case against speed.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:59 am I’m going to be serious for the night so enjoy it while you can.
Choutas feels good. Cool as a cucumber under pressure. He doesn’t have an agenda beyond catching baddies.
Dunya has some tied to baddie Colin (I’ve been told) and I could see her bad with Speedchuck. Tone read her as good, which is probably dumb of me but whatever. Not opportunistic. Not leading. That probably cancels out. The “let’s start a game of gth okay nm bye” thing makes her look a little worse, too. Day tone tho.
Quin’s position is built on benefit of the doubt due to scumier players. I cannot recall any of his posts.
Kyle feels town. Heart read.
I don’t remember much of Lap this game but this looks a damn lot like typical town Bob. I’m kinda bad at reading Bob but I feel pretty confident if this read for some reason.
MP is basic town MP, complete with moments of being too busy to post.I’d be shocked if he was anything but town.
Marmot feels good. Then again, I kinda default to town reading Marmot if he does like anything. The colored vote things are more work than they are useful, which is a good place for scum to hide.
Nova is scum. Colin teammate evidence and generally a bad feeling.
Scotty is a possible scum player. As MP said, he’s going after low hanging fruit. Nova and Speedchuck are juicy targets if you want to lynch scum. Team idgaf is actually full of townies if you pay them half an ounce of attention. Scotty faulters sometimes as town but this is a particularly weak method of solving and I don’t buy his panic at all or his complaints about the Luna lynch.
Sloonei feels town and by POE is veeeery unlikely to be bad. Someone said he had Colin links but eh.
Spacedaisy is probably town by POE and also, I just kinda know she’s good.
Speedchuck is blatantly bad. My suspicions really started when he put me and TH low on his rainbow, which is dumb. He’s continued to push that angle in the gentlest of ways. It reeks of not only low hanging fruit but pointing out how nice the fruit is and hoping someone will get it for him. He’s afraid to stick his neck out and go for it himself, which mirrors his passive scum behavior in Pirates and Fire Emblem. He’s complained that I haven’t pursued my read on him in a meaningful way, which until now, is true. However, he’s done nothing to pursue his read of me or any of his reads, really. Without checking, do you know any of Speedchuck’s reads that I didn’t just tell you? Can you think of any hunting or any meaningful contribution he’s made all game? Of course you can’t. No. Speedchuck’s reactions to me are of a scummer who thinks I’m Indy and hopes I’ll never actually push him or that I’ll get myself lynched. His every post is testing the waters for one of those things. He’s not hunting.
TH is town. Duh. When he actually says stuff, the stuff makes sense.
Wolbre is maybe scum for being kinda there and saying wrong mechanical things. Did he have Colin links? I can’t recall.
#15Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:58 amJack was pressuring Jack. Sick of people assuming my Speedchuck read was a joke of some sort. Ready to see him strung up.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:53 amwho was pressuring jackScotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 am How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.
And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?
I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.
#16 and WIFOM ‘I’m bussing Speedchuck’Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:13 pm So let me bus Speedchuck.
This is the “Jack is trying to bus Simon” thing from MK all over again. “I think Jack and the person he wants to lynch are both bad so I’m absolutely not going to lynch the person Hack wants to lynch.....for some reason.”
#17Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:21 pmIs there a reason you aren’t voting Speedchuck?
Either I’m town and I caught him or I’m bad and I’m bussing him. What’s the problem?
#18Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:59 pm @colonialbob
Tell me why Speedchuck is not a good lynch today.
#19. He’s really pushing that bussing WIFOM hardJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:41 pmMe. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:54 pmEyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended him
#20. Oh, so in this post he admits to just badgering me on D1 and never was defending speed. How nice of him. He always thought speed was bad.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 7:17 pmNo, I think he’s scum. I’m just giving Scotty a hard time. I think I did say Speeds counted scumreads were NAI but maybe that was a similar situation with another player.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 5:11 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 4:41 pmMe. Cause he’s my scum buddy. String him up.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:54 pmEyyyyyyy and yet I remember at least 2 people calling that not suspicious and it was basically dropped. I forgot who defended himWhat? I saw no such defense unless it came much later.
You think Speed is town Jack?
#21Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:15 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:59 am Speedchuck is blatantly bad. My suspicions really started when he put me and TH low on his rainbow, which is dumb. He’s continued to push that angle in the gentlest of ways. It reeks of not only low hanging fruit but pointing out how nice the fruit is and hoping someone will get it for him. He’s afraid to stick his neck out and go for it himself, which mirrors his passive scum behavior in Pirates and Fire Emblem. He’s complained that I haven’t pursued my read on him in a meaningful way, which until now, is true. However, he’s done nothing to pursue his read of me or any of his reads, really. Without checking, do you know any of Speedchuck’s reads that I didn’t just tell you? Can you think of any hunting or any meaningful contribution he’s made all game? Of course you can’t. No. Speedchuck’s reactions to me are of a scummer who thinks I’m Indy and hopes I’ll never actually push him or that I’ll get myself lynched. His every post is testing the waters for one of those things. He’s not hunting.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 8:43 pm Jack is trying to prove a point. He might actually think I'm bad if he's 3. He's wrong, and he doesn't care. He never cared before I prodded back at him.
Way I see it, if Jack is 3P, he cannot lose with my lynch. When I flip town, he'll send out his last offer and join scum. If I flipped scum, he'd join town with that extra cred. Tell me his MO doesn't look like this.![]()
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Bake him away, toys.
#22Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:31 pmBecause spoiler alert, Speedchuck is both wrong and bad.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:24 pmthen why are you voting for himspeedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:21 pmFixed a typo.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:19 pmhey by the way what the heck does this mean, do you think jack is 3p?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 8:43 pm Nova is town.
Jack is trying to prove a point. He might actually think I'm bad if he's 3P. He's wrong, and he doesn't care. He never cared before I prodded back at him.
Way I see it, if Jack is 3P, he cannot lose with my lynch. When I flip town, he'll send out his last offer and join scum. If I flipped scum, he'd join town with that extra cred. Tell me his MO doesn't look like this.
I think it's likely.
#23Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:25 pmOkay great. My theory is the same. You care more about if I’m 3P and if so, what I will do with that than you care about finding baddies. Cause you know where the baddies are. Cause you’re bad.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:23 pmThat WAS my theory. The theory has changed thanks to new info from the OP. New theory makes more sense with your're playstyle and POV.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:21 pmI thought your theory was that I would change based on how you flip. Now I’ve changed based on a changed alignment of a 3P that hadn’t happened yet?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:04 pmJack had an abrupt change in behavior today. One of the 3Ps had an abrupt change of alignment today.
That's my theory. It's not bulletproof.
None of this does anything but underline that your’re more concerned with 3P than scum, which is a good portion of my arguement against you.
I thought the Oracle's posts, coupled with Luna's reactions, were enough evidence in Luna's favor to not lynch her, or at least not in hot-potato fashion.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:35 am Yesterday Review
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p438634
Marmot posts three times starting here. Doesn’t address the Speed case. Commiserates w/Scotty about Luna’s death, saying the oracle had expressed faith in Luna twice. Feels fakish. Oracle is just a single townie’s delayed reads, not a freaking copping. Soft defends Daisy from Nova.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:53 amwho was pressuring jackScotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 am How coincidental of Jack to start laying out reads now.
And how nice of cbob to butter him up and inflate his standing. He a teammate?
I think jack is distancing from nova and maybe speed. Can’t determine yet. I’m now convinced jack is only choosing to be “straight” because he has pressure.Kyle comes in with this. You could maybe read this as a dig on Scotty/TH and a defense on me and then a setup to bus Speed but they may all just be catchup questions.
Slight ding to Marmot. Null to Kyle.
I'll explain myself...Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:54 am1) I don’t understand why townies (do townies actually do this or is it scum and I don’t check afterwards) want to prevent scum from bussing their teammates. This happened in MK and caused Simon to be lynched 3 days after he was copped bad. I want to call this behavior acummy but I want people to weigh in