The Syndicate

Here’s a question though: why does scum poutanko cop Speed as bad knowing it’s wrong?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:12 pm Here’s a question though: why does scum poutanko cop Speed as bad knowing it’s wrong?

Yesterday was a free pass to lynch INH, but while that was happening we had the whole Quin/Speed controversy. Pout's claim allegedly threw a bunch gasoline on the speedchuck fire. It ended up being the deciding factor for me, not that that resulted in anything at all. It could very well have contributed to speedchuck's death, and the false claim doesn't necessarily implicate pout because, as we've established, there's a million things going on every night that could interfere with her reports.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:11 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:10 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:07 pm OK then fuck it lol

I mean we could all switch to MacDougal, who looks pretty scummy to me, and one of the many cops in this game can check Jack tonight. How about that?

You voted for Mac right before all of this happened and any chance at discussion about him got smothered.

What's the quick version of the case against him?

I just remember him jumping into the thread and tying to stir up suspicion on me, and being shut down by Jack. Also he hasn't been super active with any discussions.

He's been fairly active at certain points, but I also struggle to recall a single definitive town point in his favor. He's been an off-and-on suspect for a while and it doesn't seem like any conversation about him has ever gained traction. He's someone we might want to take a closer look at depending on how this day goes.

I don’t fuckin get anything man. Putting my phone down until later.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:12 pm Here’s a question though: why does scum poutanko cop Speed as bad knowing it’s wrong?

To save Quin, presumably, wasn't Quin the one up against speed?

If there are 2 baddies left and it is Quin and poutanko, it may have seemed like a worthy gambit, and indeed, it would seemto have worked, until now?

It's a mess.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:39 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:37 pm Wouldn’t tieing jack/pout make more sense

I don't think so. Why would it?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:41 pm Linki: it’s the counterclaim situation. More than likely there’s a lie and it’ll force the mafia’s hand one way or the other

it's upsetting that poutanko isn't even here right now

with how things have gone, im more convinced in Jack being bad now

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:39 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:37 pm Wouldn’t tieing jack/pout make more sense

I don't think so. Why would it?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:41 pm Linki: it’s the counterclaim situation. More than likely there’s a lie and it’ll force the mafia’s hand one way or the other

That's assuming mafia hasn't already parked their votes on one of them.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:19 pm with how things have gone, im more convinced in Jack being bad now

why?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:19 pm with how things have gone, im more convinced in Jack being bad now

Fucking why?

oh right [VOTE: jack] aubergine if that wasnt obvious

linki: look at who's voting poutanko

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

I'm really unsure of things, but I'm not seeing sprit getting lynched, so I've moved my vote.

i have overall more trust in the people voting jack than poutanko, simple

need i remind everyone, thunderbird is active, so there's no gimmicks today

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:20 pm oh right [VOTE: jack] aubergine if that wasnt obvious

linki: look at who's voting poutanko

Colin?

i can guarantee one of these people is bad/anti town

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:10 pm dh, are any of the results Jack gave you unique, as in he is the only one commenting on their alignment? Or are they all peple who have been mentioned by other cops, etc. previously?

He didn't give me any results other than Owner. I asked.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:20 pm oh right [VOTE: jack] aubergine if that wasnt obvious

linki: look at who's voting poutanko

I just was, it felt reassuring. 2 of my 3 most confident town reads, myself, Jack and uh, well Colin's iffy but I've cooled off on him as the day has worn on.
That's 3 people I trust completely (myself being one of them), a player I trust conditionally (Jack) and only one player I'm iffy about. But Colin's best claim to towniness is Poutanko's cop claim, and if he's willing to vote against that claim I take that as a mark in his favor, at least.

Meanwhile Jack has you and pout on him, along with the dubious vig claim (i still trust timmer, but not as much as before)

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:22 pm i can guarantee one of these people is bad/anti town

Rank them from most to least suspicious.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:22 pm i can guarantee one of these people is bad/anti town

Nah maybeu a but that's it

Maybe Luna* lol

nutella
colin
sloonei
luna
jack

Buck ass wild now that pout is doomed Timmer felt comfortable enough to re-bus his teammate.

@sprityo
@timmer


Have you read nothing I’ve said today?

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:24 pm nutella
colin
sloonei
luna
jack

To be clear, nutella is your least suspicious player and jack is most?

i see luna/jack interchangeable because yknow, cop claims but DH sounds convinced it's jack

not to mention

they ALSO said the other the was lying.

so many lies this game

linki: a teensy bit

linki2: no, jack is my most trustworthy

(yes that is correct)

alright everyone we go about 10 minutes left, time to CFD Sprityo

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:26 pm i see luna/jack interchangeable because yknow, cop claims but DH sounds convinced it's jack

not to mention

they ALSO said the other the was lying.

so many lies this game

linki: a teensy bit

linki2: no, jack is my most trustworthy

(yes that is correct)

But I’ve got evidence to back up my claim whereas Pout has provided false info and an excuse to give no further info.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:26 pm i see luna/jack interchangeable because yknow, cop claims but DH sounds convinced it's jack

not to mention

they ALSO said the other the was lying.

so many lies this game

linki: a teensy bit

linki2: no, jack is my most trustworthy

(yes that is correct)

Who's "they"? Jack and luna have not contradicted each other that I'm aware of.

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:26 pm i see luna/jack interchangeable because yknow, cop claims but DH sounds convinced it's jack

not to mention

they ALSO said the other the was lying.

so many lies this game

linki: a teensy bit

linki2: no, jack is my most trustworthy

(yes that is correct)

You think Jack said i was lying and I said Jack was lying? Because that didn't happen.

no no no, jack and DH contradict

Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.

I just want to state for the record that no one else participated in operation trustfall and I'm hurt.

If I get lynched, remember DH lied and refused to say why he suspects me.

juliets is reading the thread. Juliets, I think you should tie this lynch up.

If Pout is bad I''ll formally apologize but if not then I accept apologies only in the form of protection from Jack and his team nightkilling me lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:29 pm If I get lynched, remember DH lied and refused to say why he suspects me.

noted

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.

I'm not sure I follow #3. Jack allegedly claimed to ID me/Owner a long time ago and there is evidence in the thread to back this up. He also claims to have ID'd luna more recently, and there is evidence in the thread to back this up. Why does this fail to qualify as "unique", what does that mean, and why does it make him bad?

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.

I claimed Sloonei towncheck and Luna towncheck before Luna claimed.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:29 pm juliets is reading the thread. Juliets, I think you should tie this lynch up.

If I want anyone deciding this lynch, it's juliets.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm I just want to state for the record that no one else participated in operation trustfall and I'm hurt.

I didn’t want to say “I copped Sloonei and Luna good” and almost told you to fuck off.

let me rephrase my list from earlier sloonei, since jack and colin were already voting before the other three

colin
nutella
sloonei
jack
luna

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm no no no, jack and DH contradict

yes, very much so. I know DH is town, but I also want to think Jack is good and DH is mis-reading him

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:30 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.

I claimed Sloonei towncheck and Luna towncheck before Luna claimed.

Wait what? You're saying I didn't have to claim today??

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:32 pm let me rephrase my list from earlier sloonei, since jack and colin were already voting before the other three

colin
nutella
sloonei
jack
luna

So now you trust luna the least? That only makes sense if I am also bad. And if I am also bad then her claim makes no sense. Ergo, luna being bad makes no sense. And that doesn't even factor in INH's treatment of her early in the game. Luna is town as can be.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:33 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:30 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm Here's my final thoughts.

1. DH wouldn't do what he did today without a reason.

2. Poutanko had a bad read, yes, but I can tell you that DDL is hazy as fuck about whether some actions worked like you think, so it's plausible.

3. Jack seems to have no unique result to speak of, which is a very convenient sign ofa baddie using thread info for false claims.

And Christ DH, get off of that.

I claimed Sloonei towncheck and Luna towncheck before Luna claimed.

Wait what? You're saying I didn't have to claim today??

I mean, you were never going to be lynched but you couldn’t have known that.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:32 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:28 pm no no no, jack and DH contradict

yes, very much so. I know DH is town, but I also want to think Jack is good and DH is mis-reading him

This is where I stand. I believe DH believes Jack is bad. I simply disagree with his conclusion.

so you would have a list that looks like:

sloonei
luna
colin
nutella
jack

is that how you would rank the 5 people voting?