The Syndicate

If we assume betzy/Mac I'd a wolf, that plan still makes no sense cause we can assume they are both trying to vote town!Alison

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:42 am

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:40 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:38 am ilario could ender fit in that world?

hmmm i suppose? i keep oscillating in my read on ender ngl

he just seems like a reasonable voice but I don;'t really see him doing a lot with it and it's making me nervous. idk maybe I'm just paranoid of him and I dont have a great track record reading him

Don't worry you're not the only one or worst.

Mac susses me every game.

That being said Illario is normally more confident of my towniness and I narrow my eyes at that

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:23 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:11 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:09 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:51 am i think we're being lead astray here as we keep arguing over which low poster is more likely a wolf. I've got some discomfort about it so I'm just voicing it here

Porscha belzy and I are arguably the only low posters so im...not sure this really makes sense

it just feels like we're being lead down a path and I'm not sure it makes sense.

Ok

What path and who is leading us?

santy, ender, mac, alison, ilario, and there's probably 1 other Im forgetting the name of right now

It's the path to thinking porscha and belzy are wolves together and i feel like they might be but there's more confidence about it than I would believe. There's also been a lot of pushing me into the the world's being built like I can't be a villager and I think i'm pretty firmly in my village meta, so it's kind of surprising from a few players that know me

Where the fuck is this idea I'm sussing Belzy coming from. Literally townread them and maybe have some doubts but honestly don't want them today.

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:23 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:20 pm So today confirms i cannot combine mafia with my job/ personal life. Did Mac already said he was confused about something? He asked me to tell you myself, namely that I never changed my claim. I never said I had multi shots, only told him 1 shot.

That aside, sorries for the low activity. I appreciate the fact only Mac got green checked but I am not. I will continue playing but lowball, very lower ball than usual. As long I am in the game my reasons are personal. I will try catchup daily, but post very limited.

If Mac was mafia, you would have died?

Yes, Mac is town. That is garantee.

Everyone put the god damn tinfoil away ty

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:26 pm i think voting belzy is a bad plan. i dont think she's outed at all

Insert office "Thank you" gif here

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:49 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:23 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:20 pm So today confirms i cannot combine mafia with my job/ personal life. Did Mac already said he was confused about something? He asked me to tell you myself, namely that I never changed my claim. I never said I had multi shots, only told him 1 shot.

That aside, sorries for the low activity. I appreciate the fact only Mac got green checked but I am not. I will continue playing but lowball, very lower ball than usual. As long I am in the game my reasons are personal. I will try catchup daily, but post very limited.

If Mac was mafia, you would have died?

Yes, Mac is town. That is garantee.

Everyone put the god damn tinfoil away ty

is it tinfoil to expect her to use her role for a peek or to at least crumb who she was gonna invite in case she died? idrts

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:21 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:16 pm What is that game u linked showcasing? I have no time to shift through an iso on mobile, I only have 10 mins of my.lunch left and them I'm on and off again till 30 min prior to EoD

Just that one post is all I meant to convey. She gave an elaborate fakeclaim to try to clear herself and win the game (it backfired - we were wolves together and lost). This sort of thing is a common wolf trick for her.

We have confirmation the neighbourhood is true. Why the fuck....

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:32 pm if belzy is town mac is green
if belzy is wolf mac is green for killing a wolf for no actual reason in the weirdest way
mac is townie anyway

mac is... wolf?

cmonnnnn

I diiiiiid say 95% brah

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:33 pm @EnderWiggin what scenario does the hood stuff play out in which mac is a wolf? for humour purposes

The one where you think it's funny to throw Belzy under the bus and the reason it took so long to claim is Belzy being mad in scumchat

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:32 pm if belzy is town mac is green
if belzy is wolf mac is green for killing a wolf for no actual reason in the weirdest way
mac is townie anyway

mac is... wolf?

cmonnnnn

I diiiiiid say 95% brah

I'm more piqued by ... literally everything ilario doing today passively pushing against everything I stand for in this mafia game lol

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:33 pm @EnderWiggin what scenario does the hood stuff play out in which mac is a wolf? for humour purposes

The one where you think it's funny to throw Belzy under the bus and the reason it took so long to claim is Belzy being mad in scumchat

I have never bussed a teammate because it was funny or in a way that upset them.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:50 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:49 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:23 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:20 pm So today confirms i cannot combine mafia with my job/ personal life. Did Mac already said he was confused about something? He asked me to tell you myself, namely that I never changed my claim. I never said I had multi shots, only told him 1 shot.

That aside, sorries for the low activity. I appreciate the fact only Mac got green checked but I am not. I will continue playing but lowball, very lower ball than usual. As long I am in the game my reasons are personal. I will try catchup daily, but post very limited.

If Mac was mafia, you would have died?

Yes, Mac is town. That is garantee.

Everyone put the god damn tinfoil away ty

is it tinfoil to expect her to use her role for a peek or to at least crumb who she was gonna invite in case she died? idrts

Not many people necessarily think to crumb ahead of time. I don't think not crumbing is damning and I'm shaking my head at anyone who does

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:32 pm if belzy is town mac is green
if belzy is wolf mac is green for killing a wolf for no actual reason in the weirdest way
mac is townie anyway

mac is... wolf?

cmonnnnn

I diiiiiid say 95% brah

I'm more piqued by ... literally everything ilario doing today passively pushing against everything I stand for in this mafia game lol

Oh yeah welcome to my Ilario read elevator.

He's dropping back down to scum pit I did not like what I read overnight

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:33 pm @EnderWiggin what scenario does the hood stuff play out in which mac is a wolf? for humour purposes

The one where you think it's funny to throw Belzy under the bus and the reason it took so long to claim is Belzy being mad in scumchat

I have never bussed a teammate because it was funny or in a way that upset them.

You asked me for the 5%, shrug.

Look I don't think you're wolf and I think this whole shit is a mess and I think Belzy is town.

But here we arw

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:55 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:50 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:49 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:23 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:20 pm So today confirms i cannot combine mafia with my job/ personal life. Did Mac already said he was confused about something? He asked me to tell you myself, namely that I never changed my claim. I never said I had multi shots, only told him 1 shot.

That aside, sorries for the low activity. I appreciate the fact only Mac got green checked but I am not. I will continue playing but lowball, very lower ball than usual. As long I am in the game my reasons are personal. I will try catchup daily, but post very limited.

If Mac was mafia, you would have died?

Yes, Mac is town. That is garantee.

Everyone put the god damn tinfoil away ty

is it tinfoil to expect her to use her role for a peek or to at least crumb who she was gonna invite in case she died? idrts

Not many people necessarily think to crumb ahead of time. I don't think not crumbing is damning and I'm shaking my head at anyone who does

Particularly when Belzy is saying that the reason they targeted me was because I was obvious town and they didn't want to die.

I think Seanzie brought up a game in where Belsy crumbled a similar role if I didnt read wrong, so I think its kinda damning tbh

I don't think everyone in this block of sus I'm seeing is wolf unless they went full powerwolf but I'm sure that there are pelts in Porscha/ilario/Allison/Chamo/Tilg

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:03 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:55 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:50 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:49 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:23 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:20 pm So today confirms i cannot combine mafia with my job/ personal life. Did Mac already said he was confused about something? He asked me to tell you myself, namely that I never changed my claim. I never said I had multi shots, only told him 1 shot.

That aside, sorries for the low activity. I appreciate the fact only Mac got green checked but I am not. I will continue playing but lowball, very lower ball than usual. As long I am in the game my reasons are personal. I will try catchup daily, but post very limited.

If Mac was mafia, you would have died?

Yes, Mac is town. That is garantee.

Everyone put the god damn tinfoil away ty

is it tinfoil to expect her to use her role for a peek or to at least crumb who she was gonna invite in case she died? idrts

Not many people necessarily think to crumb ahead of time. I don't think not crumbing is damning and I'm shaking my head at anyone who does

Particularly when Belzy is saying that the reason they targeted me was because I was obvious town and they didn't want to die.

See that's even fairer

Best case scenario Belzy is town. I have a hood with them all game. Right now they say they are too busy with rl to play. Over time I'll figure out their alignment... or you will. I don't think resolving Belzy by chop today is the play when there are wolfier slots. Alison and Porscha are both better chops.

I regret outing Belzy. It is entirely plausible they didn't realise I thought they were claiming multiple targets.

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:03 pm I think Seanzie brought up a game in where Belsy crumbled a similar role if I didnt read wrong, so I think its kinda damning tbh

I claim neighbouriser once as wolf it doesn't mean next neighbouriser I get is also wolf.

And I'm townreading Belzy outside that.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:03 pm I don't think everyone in this block of sus I'm seeing is wolf unless they went full powerwolf but I'm sure that there are pelts in Porscha/ilario/Allison/Chamo/Tilg

I agree with that statement. Maybe changing Cham and putting Belzy or Seanzie idk .

In my mind I will have to worry about it later anyways

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:05 pm Best case scenario Belzy is town. I have a hood with them all game. Right now they say they are too busy with rl to play. Over time I'll figure out their alignment... or you will. I don't think resolving Belzy by chop today is the play when there are wolfier slots. Alison and Porscha are both better chops.

I regret outing Belzy. It is entirely plausible they didn't realise I thought they were claiming multiple targets.

At least it clears you so you can safely die at night and not get protected =P

[VOTE: Alison ] aubergine

Aight

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:06 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:03 pm I don't think everyone in this block of sus I'm seeing is wolf unless they went full powerwolf but I'm sure that there are pelts in Porscha/ilario/Allison/Chamo/Tilg

I agree with that statement. Maybe changing Cham and putting Belzy or Seanzie idk .

In my mind I will have to worry about it later anyways

Bro why are you not on Alison

LMAO THAT CROSSPOST

Prob trusting Mac judgement atm on that.

But I still eant to Belzy to answer in thread

I don't regret it in the sense that Belzy wasn't being towny and isn't rly being towny anyway. The pro-town benefit of keeping it a secret wasn't there.

I regret it because I feel like it's given the wolves the easy miselim they wanted.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:07 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:06 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:03 pm I don't think everyone in this block of sus I'm seeing is wolf unless they went full powerwolf but I'm sure that there are pelts in Porscha/ilario/Allison/Chamo/Tilg

I agree with that statement. Maybe changing Cham and putting Belzy or Seanzie idk .

In my mind I will have to worry about it later anyways

Bro why are you not on Alison

Think the case has merit and wanted to see if Belzy being in the lead changed anything. Pushing buttons stuff

@EnderWiggin why are you town
reading Belzy?

I want to highlight that neither Porscha or Tilgarial arevoting

Like, if Alison and Belsy are V/W right now, the odds of one of them being a wolf if not both and just sniping in EoD to yeet the villa there is high

Also based on my own reads these wagons are polarised in favour of Alison w Belzy t.

Also noting again that Ilario said specifically that he thought letting Lily resolve Porscha was optimal and is now the only Porscha voter.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:09 pm @EnderWiggin why are you town
reading Belzy?

Because earlygame I was reminded of town belzy from another game.

Also Because I feel like we had good competing wagons and people latched onto Belzy really fucking hard

Yeah, I think that ilario needs to talk quite a bit because I am still flabberghasted by their Alison V and Mac W reads tbh

Like, the felt so blatantly wrong that made me question if it was really wolfy LOL. But we will see with flips tbh

Like idk about you but the pivot away from the generally read wolfy slots to your sus on Belzy was like a hard left and idk if I like it

I'm stunned anyone views Alison as anything but outed mafia tbh. Alison was literally live trolling and openwolfing.

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:12 pm Like, the felt so blatantly wrong that made me question if it was really wolfy LOL. But we will see with flips tbh

The whole late night Mac sus thing has made me squint fucking hard at them.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:13 pm Like idk about you but the pivot away from the generally read wolfy slots to your sus on Belzy was like a hard left and idk if I like it

I agree.

Belzy is not the play here imo.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:13 pm Like idk about you but the pivot away from the generally read wolfy slots to your sus on Belzy was like a hard left and idk if I like it

Prob Seanzie the biggest factor or the first slot that cames to mind in latching onto that. But I also think that their point on Belsy *is* fair.
So Im having doubts still tbh

The clear most outing this for Alison is that they tolerated the way that Nanook blocked their supposed path to mech self resolution.

Anyone who knows town Alison's play knows that there is no way in hell Alison would permit that without invoking the "you are hard wolfsiding prepare to die" policy.

The way Alison has treated slots is inconistent both inside this game and also against her known town meta.

Top townreading Seanzie when he shouldn't be anyone's top town
Refusing to interrogate or suspect dyachei despite their wolfsiding on day 1
Hard pushing Santygrass who is very townie
Hard pushing arogame and millium over Porscha day 1 who appears to be now outed mafia

Far too many red flags.

The way I see it
Belzy wolf confirms Mac
Belzy town confirms Mac

If they are town I can vote out Sean
As for what people do with their abilities, I don't necessarily care, I'm only focused on the part where Sean says this isn't how they handle these types of abilities, I wish he would post actual proof instead of a game I don't have time to read. Either way I don't have much time to think about it. I'll probably chill in my car after I clock out, to get the most out of the 30mins before EoD

Also fuck 5pm EST Eods

If Alison town was in this game they would be voting this Alison.

That is what I also think but I dont have so much meta on Alisson so /shrug

I have plenty. I know Alison's town thought process better than anybody.

I don't know it as well as Mac and aren't as sure as Mac but also yeah I think this is Alison's wolfgame

My whole "got what I wanted from Alison" earlier was because I didn't want it to be a unanimous wagon which is what it was building into.

I wanted (and got) an alternate wagon for tension.

I just didn't want it to be Belzy =P

Ive gotta get ready for work and unless I'm lucky I won't have any more time before eod.

So have fun y'all degenerates

i dont think belzy and alison are incompatible as partners though