The Syndicate

I am voting for The Vision, because I trust him.

I'm not sure where I want to vote in this poll. I worry about the "something helpful" falling into baddie hands, so I will look at volunteers and vote for someone trustworthy.....as trustworthy as someone can be on Night 2 that is.

Spiral wrote: Why the hell are you discussing the secrets of a civilian role?

I believe it’s called trying to be helpful. See, I would normally agree with you if I concluded that my brief discussion would result in endangering said civilian or any other civilians for that matter, but having weighed the pros and cons of such an undertaking, I considered that openly discussing it, along with the rest of the roles with secrets would provide us a better understanding of the game mechanics. If you manage to provide a setting where the fact that I discussed Storm’s secret endangers any civilian (note that this is a game with heavy voting manipulation, so a lynch switch or whatever would go undetected), I’ll plead guilty and you can go ahead and take me out for attempting to endanger or expose one or more civilians. Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that ‘altering the weather’ does indeed mean what I have described in my previous post. Do you think that a team of 7 would not reach the same conclusion, because you know, it’s pretty much common sense? Or maybe you guys haven’t discussed it this yet, in which case I do apologize. Do you think that a person who survives a lynch would not be an automatic night target either because they are a powerful civilian or to have the baddies check if they do indeed have Apocalypse in the bag? Of course you’d think the same if you actually took a few seconds to rationalize this, instead of trying to come across as very offended and self-righteous in what I consider an aggressive manner. I would buy it if you were Storm and you’d consider that my discussing your secrets could somehow expose you. However, the very fact that out of my entire post you’ve chosen to single out one role in particular to make you look good, tells me that you have nothing to do with that particular, and perhaps the reason is that I might have struck a chord and I’m exposing you or one of your teammates. I see no discussion about the independents and the baddie with secrets, for which you are very welcome. In case you haven’t bothered to read my posts, I like to rely on logic, common sense and what facts I can pick up from people’s posts in order to make what I consider rational judgments. Plus, I like to get some reactions. Thank you for that. And if it’s all right with you, I’ll have to keep an eye on you.

That being said, I don’t want to end this post in a bellicose manner.

Spiral wrote:I think that the T-Bird lynch train was to save Quicksilver. Big time.

I do agree with this. Big time.

Just something I remembered I wanted to throw out there even though it probably isn't the same, but on the show Rogue went to Muir Island for the experiment to get rid of her powers, and it was a ploy to help Apocalypse. Trying to separate show from this game, but I just remembered and kinda am weary now choosing.

Also, I already speculated like I said that they knew obviously me and T Bird were either gonna be lynched and didn't care, so they got him out because I already had suspicion. It was to save me for Day 3 to get lynched and I hope you guys examine some of the voters on T Bird that made it tie up near the end. I think (most) the voters on me yesterday were Civ going with how I appeared bad with my postings and thought they had it right. But I feel Mojo was acting really weird yesterday, and I want to hear more from Polaris. Havok I can understand him trying to figure out the Day 1 lynch more now and his style is just different than other people playing, as is mine and we both are taking poundings for it because we try different styles and strategies than most. Look at me being bold and trying to help more discussion, it earned me huge targets on me and Baddies eating that up. That's just one problem I sometimes have with these games, someone does a different style of play and you guys take it as "bad" because it isn't typical. When I play, I like to make bold moves and I take risks posting more often than some playing. It usually looks like I'm "bad" then too because I have attention but I don't like being quiet like some Civ do.
All I ask is you guys examine the thread tonight and Day 3 carefully and try to accept my accurate theory above with Me going to be out soon and setting T Bird up to die first, most likely cus it was easy and he wasn't talking.

I'm still pretty suspicious of Quicksilver's defense. But I think looking at some of the late voters who made a surge on Thunderbird would be worthwhile.

Throwing my vote at Avalanche. He's still the only one I fully trust so far.

Shadowcat wrote: Throwing my vote at Avalanche. He's still the only one I fully trust so far.

Rock on!

*votes avalanche* I feel I can trust him as well.

Sunfire wrote:*votes avalanche* I feel I can trust him as well.

How original.

Sorry Thunderbird but some of those votes for Quicksilver left me feeling icky. I should have stuck with my original suspicion that others latched onto for their own votes.

I am voting Vision bc he is saying a lot of the same things I am thinking or posting.[/b]

White Queen and Avalanche its good to have you back with your thoughts.

Voting myself. Even though there are a couple of people who I think have good intentions, I can't really say I'm that confident in any one person's trustworthiness at this point.

I would actually prefer not to win this poll, although the votes of confidence are touching.

In a previous Epignosis game, the person who won a night poll was turned into an independent. I have no idea what the outcome for this is, but we might be voting for a recruit for Apocalypse, and I'm not comfortable with that. I'll be voting for one of the non-participants.

Hawkeye wrote:In a previous Epignosis game, the person who won a night poll was turned into an independent. I have no idea what the outcome for this is, but we might be voting for a recruit for Apocalypse, and I'm not comfortable with that. I'll be voting for one of the non-participants.

I'm with you on that Hawkeye. That's what I was hinting at also based on my previous post today.

Quicksilver wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:In a previous Epignosis game, the person who won a night poll was turned into an independent. I have no idea what the outcome for this is, but we might be voting for a recruit for Apocalypse, and I'm not comfortable with that. I'll be voting for one of the non-participants.

I'm with you on that Hawkeye. That's what I was hinting at also based on my previous post today.

Ohhhh ugh - well, I could leave my vote where it is because no one else is going to vote me or I could change it, but to who? A non-participant is a thought - I've got to think through this. Though didn't the post say the person would do something helpful? I guess the question is helpful for who.

Hawkeye wrote:
Mystique: For those of you who don't know, she's a shapeshifter. This can mean a number of things: she could pose as a mutant of her choice and use their power, but that would be too similar to Rogue's role, or some of you may already be familiar with the Catherine Martell role, who, if lynched can control the role she was shown as. Perhaps we're in that area with Mystique as well.

I meant to respond to this post yesterday, but I forgot. Not really that big of a deal, but my nerdiness OCD is compelling me to post. lol. I would lean more towards Mystique being a seemer role. Having Mystique be able to use other abilities wouldn't really jive with the character. Mystique can only change her appearance. She can't use the abilities of the mutants that she shifts into. It's about the only thing that actually gives her away. There was a game at RM a while back that had the Rogue and Mystique roles in the game. Rogue could borrow other abilities and Mystique was a seemer. In that game, Mystique could also send out messages BTS to other players disguised as someone else. That was an interesting twist on the seemer role. Something to keep in mind here I think.

I'm self-voting for the time being.

I apologize for missing the vote yesterday. Some things came up IRL and I could not make it online.

Mojo wrote:

Havok wrote:Why is it more likely that I would ask that question as The Sentinel rather than a civvie?

This has been gone over previously. The vision made some really good points about it. I'm not going to repeat everything that has been said. I understand you don't agree, oh well.

There were also a couple good points against it. It's not to say that Havok deserves no suspicion, but if I recall correctly, there's some ideas pointing either way as to whether he is the Sentinels.

White Queen wrote:There were a few things I know I have to address, and will do so tonight (xoxo Spiral ) when I have finished assuring that the mutants of the world are safe from danger

Please clarify something for me. Who are the mutants of the world?

soooooo does anyone wanna volunteer for this shiznit?

Avalanche wrote:I would actually prefer not to win this poll, although the votes of confidence are touching.

^Ditto!

Voted Dazzler. I haven't seen anything at all pingy in her posts, and Avalanche says hed rather not win this etc.

The Vision wrote:

Avalanche wrote:I would actually prefer not to win this poll, although the votes of confidence are touching.

^Ditto!

Well then - sorry I voted for you I will give my vote to my second choice - White Queen

imma vote mojo cuz he volunteered himself and he aint been acting spishus

I'll volunteer if anyone is interested in tossing votes my way. I'm not a big fan of my ability.

Hawkeye wrote:In a previous Epignosis game, the person who won a night poll was turned into an independent. I have no idea what the outcome for this is, but we might be voting for a recruit for Apocalypse, and I'm not comfortable with that. I'll be voting for one of the non-participants.

I think I will follow this because I was thinking that the person who won the poll would not necessarily get a good reward. When I read it, I felt like something was going to go wrong, I am kind of confused by those who wanted to be voted/those who seem to be voting who they trust and not weighing that something bad could be happening to them. This could very well be what happens, thanks for the insight into Epi's previous game too.

Hawkeye wrote:

Spiral wrote: Why the hell are you discussing the secrets of a civilian role?

I believe it’s called trying to be helpful. See, I would normally agree with you if I concluded that my brief discussion would result in endangering said civilian or any other civilians for that matter, but having weighed the pros and cons of such an undertaking, I considered that openly discussing it, along with the rest of the roles with secrets would provide us a better understanding of the game mechanics. If you manage to provide a setting where the fact that I discussed Storm’s secret endangers any civilian (note that this is a game with heavy voting manipulation, so a lynch switch or whatever would go undetected), I’ll plead guilty and you can go ahead and take me out for attempting to endanger or expose one or more civilians. Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that ‘altering the weather’ does indeed mean what I have described in my previous post. Do you think that a team of 7 would not reach the same conclusion, because you know, it’s pretty much common sense? Or maybe you guys haven’t discussed it this yet, in which case I do apologize. Do you think that a person who survives a lynch would not be an automatic night target either because they are a powerful civilian or to have the baddies check if they do indeed have Apocalypse in the bag? Of course you’d think the same if you actually took a few seconds to rationalize this, instead of trying to come across as very offended and self-righteous in what I consider an aggressive manner. I would buy it if you were Storm and you’d consider that my discussing your secrets could somehow expose you. However, the very fact that out of my entire post you’ve chosen to single out one role in particular to make you look good, tells me that you have nothing to do with that particular, and perhaps the reason is that I might have struck a chord and I’m exposing you or one of your teammates. I see no discussion about the independents and the baddie with secrets, for which you are very welcome. In case you haven’t bothered to read my posts, I like to rely on logic, common sense and what facts I can pick up from people’s posts in order to make what I consider rational judgments. Plus, I like to get some reactions. Thank you for that. And if it’s all right with you, I’ll have to keep an eye on you.

That being said, I don’t want to end this post in a bellicose manner.

Very nice way of saying you suspect me because I dared question you. In addition, the other role you discussed was Mystique-- a baddie role.

Scarlet Witch.

I have to vote now because I may not have my break in time for the poll close, still being weary of the result possibly being bad, I don't know who to give me vote to. But I think I will go with Longshot like I said originally

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:Uh....I forgot to play/vote. Sorry, guys and gals.

I didn't think Quicksilver's poor logic regarding indies was pingy, but I think his defense was. Frankly, I'm shocked so many late votes came in for Thunderbird and got him lynched.

I think Hawkeye and The Vision are being very astute.

This is a quote from someone (I think Havoc) to Quicksilver, and it sums up my thoughts, more or less.
"I feel like you were trying to use emotional appeals to survive, and not the good kind."

So I'll be looking at him tomorrow. And at Sunfire, about whom I have very very bad gut feelings. I'll probably build a case in the morning.

Quicksilver wrote:I don't mind trying the experiment on myself, but there are people volunteering I would be comfortable with Longshot also.

WHY??? This is the only interaction I have between you and Longshot:

Longshot wrote:

Quicksilver wrote:I have to vote bleh... I would like to vote for a quiet player like Banshee, but I think maybe some people haven't started as Epignosis has said he needs a replacement. I understand both sides of the Pronoun argument as stated earlier, but I do have to pick someone to vote so I will try to trust the group saying Deathlok's slip up is really a Baddie mistake. I still dont think there is enough evidence to vote against the other people being accused today yet, Avalanche, Scarlet Witch, etc.
(Votes Deathlok)

Quicksilver, this has been bothering me and I haven't found an answer so I'm just going to ask. I double checked and Scarlett Witch was the one who made the potential "slip". It was that "slip" that I saw all the discussion about regarding did that mean she was a baddie or just mis-gendered Polaris. What slip up did Deathlok have that you are saying here was a baddie mistake? I may have just missed it and am confused because the only potential slip I saw was Scarlett's.

It seems vaguely antagonistic, and I honestly don't remember Longshot having said much of anything else this game. (My apologies if I've been overlooking you, Long.) So why do you suddenly trust Longshot the most, after never talking about him or to him and after he totally wrecked your "reason" for your vote? Or are you going with the second strategy and voting for someon you're suspicious of? This feels very baddie to me.

Phoenix wrote:Ughhhh RIP Thunderbird! Not going on hunches anymore...

The what will you go on?

Excellent question. Logic, I suppose, although process of elimination/pure logic at this point still won't quite cut it. One can't quite rule out the gut feeling/hunch as an indicator of baddies, but that's certainly not what I (or anyone wanting to successfully get rid of scum) needs to rely upon. Off to catch up, become informed and make a decision for tonight

I changed my vote to Mojo. Avalanche prefers not to be it and Mojo volunteered.

I feel pretty good about Mojo, so will vote to give it to him.

I'll go with Dazzler - she volunteered, but doesn't seem absolutely desperate to get it, which would be more suspicious, at least to me. Plus, despite our speculation, we still don't know exactly what will happen. Let's see how this plays out.

Phoenix wrote:I'll go with Dazzler - she volunteered, but doesn't seem absolutely desperate to get it, which would be more suspicious, at least to me. Plus, despite our speculation, we still don't know exactly what will happen. Let's see how this plays out.

I wouldn't say I really volunteered, I voted myself with no expectation that anyone else would consider it, but I have no objection to being the one to get it if people want me to do it. I don't mind either way tbh, I'll take one for the team if necessary.

I picked someone at random .

Spiral wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:

Spiral wrote: Why the hell are you discussing the secrets of a civilian role?

I believe it’s called trying to be helpful. See, I would normally agree with you if I concluded that my brief discussion would result in endangering said civilian or any other civilians for that matter, but having weighed the pros and cons of such an undertaking, I considered that openly discussing it, along with the rest of the roles with secrets would provide us a better understanding of the game mechanics. If you manage to provide a setting where the fact that I discussed Storm’s secret endangers any civilian (note that this is a game with heavy voting manipulation, so a lynch switch or whatever would go undetected), I’ll plead guilty and you can go ahead and take me out for attempting to endanger or expose one or more civilians. Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that ‘altering the weather’ does indeed mean what I have described in my previous post. Do you think that a team of 7 would not reach the same conclusion, because you know, it’s pretty much common sense? Or maybe you guys haven’t discussed it this yet, in which case I do apologize. Do you think that a person who survives a lynch would not be an automatic night target either because they are a powerful civilian or to have the baddies check if they do indeed have Apocalypse in the bag? Of course you’d think the same if you actually took a few seconds to rationalize this, instead of trying to come across as very offended and self-righteous in what I consider an aggressive manner. I would buy it if you were Storm and you’d consider that my discussing your secrets could somehow expose you. However, the very fact that out of my entire post you’ve chosen to single out one role in particular to make you look good, tells me that you have nothing to do with that particular, and perhaps the reason is that I might have struck a chord and I’m exposing you or one of your teammates. I see no discussion about the independents and the baddie with secrets, for which you are very welcome. In case you haven’t bothered to read my posts, I like to rely on logic, common sense and what facts I can pick up from people’s posts in order to make what I consider rational judgments. Plus, I like to get some reactions. Thank you for that. And if it’s all right with you, I’ll have to keep an eye on you.

That being said, I don’t want to end this post in a bellicose manner.

Very nice way of saying you suspect me because I dared question you. In addition, the other role you discussed was Mystique-- a baddie role.

You have no idea how disappointed I am in this reply. If this is all you got from my post then I can only conclude that you either are not capable of properly comprehending what I've said (of course, this can also be my fault for not phrasing my thoughts more accurately), you haven't read everything I've written or you have picked whatever suited your cause.

Because I'm in a very good at the moment, I'll give you a tl;dr

- you have asked me a question and I have answered it;
- I have asked you to give me a setting in which my discussing Storm's role would endanger a civilian;
- the way in which you phrased said question was not to my liking because I quote " [you] come across as very offended and self-righteous in what I consider an aggressive manner."

Anyone is free to ask me anything and question my decisions or my reasoning. The reason I decided to keep an eye on you was the way in which you've chosen to do that. I'm still in an excellent mood, so I'll give you an example which would not have made me look at you: 'Interesting post, Hawkeye. I noticed you have decided to discuss a civilian's secrets along with those of the independents and the baddie, and I do not think that is a good idea because [...]. Would you mind telling me why you decided to do that?'

See the difference? See why your tone would make me want to look at you? See why your reply to mine would make me want to take an even closer look at you? You decide to specifically choose just the bit where I suspect you for 'daring' to ask me a question and omit to mention my discussion about ALL of the independents. Of course I would start suspecting you. Wouldn't you?

I've been busy for the last day and a half, sorry for missing the vote. I can definitely say that I wouldn't of voted for Thunderbird. Not a fan of that case. I'll throw Mojo a vote.

Marrow wrote:I've been busy for the last day and a half, sorry for missing the vote. I can definitely say that I wouldn't of voted for Thunderbird. Not a fan of that case. I'll throw Mojo a vote.

Who would you have voted Marrow and why?

Why is it that people feel good about Mojo? I don't see it. I could understand if you said you felt neutral about him...I don't feel neutral, but I could see how others might arrive at that point..but I certainly don't know why someone would feel "good" about him.

Am I missing something?

Havok wrote:Why is it that people feel good about Mojo? I don't see it. I could understand if you said you felt neutral about him...I don't feel neutral, but I could see how others might arrive at that point..but I certainly don't know why someone would feel "good" about him.

Am I missing something?

I must be missing it too because he has definitely caught my eye and I am puzzled as to how people have such opposing opinions.

voted Domino

Gave my vote to a non participant. I like the Cable from the comics better than I do Domino, and those each both have 1 post in the game.

Who will be Dr. Moira MacTaggert's volunteer?

You may select 1 option

Avalanche
2
Mikhail Rasputin (5), Shadowcat (7)
9%

Banshee
1
Banshee (4)
5%

Bastion
0
No votes

Cable
2
Hawkeye (9), Exodus (15)
9%

Dazzler
3
Dazzler (8), The Vision (11), Phoenix (19)
14%

Deadpool
0
No votes

Domino
1
Havok (22)
5%

Exodus
0
No votes

Havok
0
No votes

Hawkeye
0
No votes

Longshot
2
Longshot (2), Quicksilver (16)
9%

Marrow
1
Bastion (20)
5%

Mikhail Rasputin
0
No votes

Mojo
5
Mojo (3), Deadpool (13), Sunfire (17), White Queen (18), Marrow (21)
23%

Phoenix
0
No votes

Polaris
1
Polaris (10)
5%

Quicksilver
0
No votes

Scarlet Witch
1
Sebastian Shaw (14)
5%

Sebastian Shaw
0
No votes

Shadowcat
0
No votes

Spiral
0
No votes

Sunfire
0
No votes

The Vision
1
Avalanche (6)
5%

White Queen
1
Scarlet Witch (12)
5%

Proteus (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
1
Epignosis (1)
5%


Total votes : 22

EBWOP: both

For all its advanced scientific activity, Muir Island was a quiet, serene place.

But the waves crashing against the rocks and the choir of birds was enough to mask the footsteps of Betsy Braddock.

Though she required no tangible katana for her fatal enterprise, she felt a more traditional approach was appropriate as she drew nearer to the Scarlet Witch, who had been engaged in the discussion of who should volunteer for Dr. Moira MacTaggert’s experiment, but needed some time alone to think.

That time would not come.

That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

:O

Wait what? There's no :O smiley??? :O :O :O

Havok wrote:Wait what? There's no :O smiley??? :O :O :O