The Syndicate

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:39 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:30 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:10 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:05 pm tbh i feel less good about radishes than i do odd and poison so idk if he should be there. maybe one lower

Radishes is an uncountered doc claim on a night with no kill though. I kinda have to put him pretty high.

yea but there are other ways kills could be stopped. there’s too many unknowns for me to treat him as lock. he doesn’t have the thread presence for it. but i do doubt he’s scum. he’s just not like in the lock tier

True. The flip side is that no one has pushed him. If you were a doc (or jail keeper) who protected someone and might also have prevented the kill I know you wouldn't necessarily want to just out for a claim war, but wouldn't you at least be probing in Radishes direction here? Near as I can tell everyone just said, "oh, okay, so that's where the kill went, makes sense" and got on to other business.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:38 pm the idea that i both watched and post capped mac is pretty lol though

i’ve caught two wolves and am very likely dying immediately. so i wouldn’t worry tim

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:42 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:38 pm the idea that i both watched and post capped mac is pretty lol though

i’ve caught two wolves and am very likely dying immediately. so i wouldn’t worry tim

I know. I also volunteered my song title which probably makes me vulnerable to who knows what, and have attracted a number of tunnelers that may well include a town vig that imagines themselves as the hero that stopped Tim's evil master plan so I expect to be having cocktails with you in spec chat where we can really laugh about it.

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:37 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:34 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:28 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:42 pm right the post capper. we assume its a wolf action?

what if its a town negative utility action by nanook or jpic and they couldnt have claimed it due to restriction?

what if its fake report from sprityo?

eh whatever

even if they couldn’t claim i think they would have alluded to it if either were town

and i don’t think it can be a fake report. that’s not what a report is really. report is like from an investigative i think. sprit was like a tailor basically as far as i can tell

Interestingly, you provide the perfect example. I've considered "post cap could be a side effect of being watched" and I know you are claim restricted...but I also trust that you'd have said things like "let's not get so wound up in this post cap thing" or supported people saying that it could be just a side effect.

I don't think the wolves sent two people to Mac. I think they sent one and the 3P is the post capper and that the post cap is also a mark for later destruction.

well i think we’ll find out about the post capper soon because it very likely can only be nook or jpic. if we find out its neither of them it means it was an undetectable ability. i don’t see the point of thinking too hard about it now

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:49 pm maybe ted should just kill one of JPIC/nanook in the night so we can all stop talking about this and hunt for the scum in the upper POE

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:49 pm maybe ted should just kill one of JPIC/nanook in the night so we can all stop talking about this and hunt for the scum in the upper POE

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:54 pm lets kill everyone \o/

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:10 pm The simple fact that we know there's a mafia rolecop and we have a cop with a check on Mac coming out just screams mafia to me.

Maybe it's bias but maybe it's just occam's razor.

Why would town jpic go to Mac when he was town reading him instead of choosing two of his nulls at his own will.

Like, come on. Seriously.

No matter how much he'd be trying to solve here ; nobody has yet to give an actual answer to this.

If you are a mafia rolecop and you are caught by a watcher, the easiest thing to do is claim alignment cop when you're mafia rolecop.

I'm willing to yeet a potential town cop when the "coincidences" are so glaring to fit my theory.

We have 2 mafia roles left, yeah? 1 of them is mafia role cop confirmed by Poison. We know the other is a post capper.

I really don't know why I have to be talking about this. It would be very lame if both nanook and jpic are wolves but it is very probable that's the case lol.

feel free to poke holes in my case because I do miss things and it's late.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:07 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:11 pm Hally is a Sloonei alt.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 pm lock town: (i will never vote for these people)

hally (self-explanatory)
mac (self-explanatory)
alison (self-explanatory)
juliets (interactions w/nutella clear her, i don't read her as 3p)

strong town lean:
tutuu - (conviction on her read on me felt incredibly genuine, i doubt she would have this approach as scum/3p)
oddmerta - (frustrating/overly stubborn reads but tonally very pure and good interactions w/the flipped wolves)
poison - (incredibly pure tone and great interactions with the flipped wolves)

weaker town leans:
master radishes - (interactions with sprit imply that they arent teamed, the rest of their game has been invisible to me)
samu - (incredibly pure tone and that's basically it)
tonystarkprime/colin - (pretty good interactions with nutella)
dyachei - (tbh i don't find them that towny but some of their interactions with nutella are indicative of them not being partnered and everyone with meta on dyachei is saying this is their town game)

scummy:
drwigly - (weak interactions w/the flipped wolves and hasn't towntold)
Dyslexicon - (bad interactions & bad tone, would not surprise me if they were a wolf or 3p)
herm - (bad interactions with nutella. like, really bad)
JPIC - (seems transparent to me that this is scum that claimed to investigate mac because they realized they got caught visiting. i have no idea why anyone is townreading him)
nanook - (i actually find this tone slightly more towny than JPIC's but i feel obligated to put him in this tier because of the visit)
long con - (comparatively less scummy than the other people in this tier but hasn't made an impression on me whatsoever)
ted - (this one is probably unpopular but i cant think of a single thing ted has done this game that i would call towny. he just hasn't and i dont understand why he'd be so demotivated as town)
tim: - (i dont love his pushes and a lot of his posts feel like scum aggressively flailing. i do not tr him)

if i had to rank that bottom tier from least scummy to most scummy, it'd be:

long con
ted
dyslexicon
nanook
herm
tim
drwigly
JPIC

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 pm lock town: (i will never vote for these people)

hally (self-explanatory)
mac (self-explanatory)
alison (self-explanatory)
juliets (interactions w/nutella clear her, i don't read her as 3p)

strong town lean:
tutuu - (conviction on her read on me felt incredibly genuine, i doubt she would have this approach as scum/3p)
oddmerta - (frustrating/overly stubborn reads but tonally very pure and good interactions w/the flipped wolves)
poison - (incredibly pure tone and great interactions with the flipped wolves)

weaker town leans:
master radishes - (interactions with sprit imply that they arent teamed, the rest of their game has been invisible to me)
samu - (incredibly pure tone and that's basically it)
tonystarkprime/colin - (pretty good interactions with nutella)
dyachei - (tbh i don't find them that towny but some of their interactions with nutella are indicative of them not being partnered and everyone with meta on dyachei is saying this is their town game)

scummy:
drwigly - (weak interactions w/the flipped wolves and hasn't towntold)
Dyslexicon - (bad interactions & bad tone, would not surprise me if they were a wolf or 3p)
herm - (bad interactions with nutella. like, really bad)
JPIC - (seems transparent to me that this is scum that claimed to investigate mac because they realized they got caught visiting. i have no idea why anyone is townreading him)
nanook - (i actually find this tone slightly more towny than JPIC's but i feel obligated to put him in this tier because of the visit)
long con - (comparatively less scummy than the other people in this tier but hasn't made an impression on me whatsoever)
ted - (this one is probably unpopular but i cant think of a single thing ted has done this game that i would call towny. he just hasn't and i dont understand why he'd be so demotivated as town)
tim: - (i dont love his pushes and a lot of his posts feel like scum aggressively flailing. i do not tr him)

if i had to rank that bottom tier from least scummy to most scummy, it'd be:

long con
ted
dyslexicon
nanook
herm
tim
drwigly
JPIC

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 pm lock town: (i will never vote for these people)

hally (self-explanatory)
mac (self-explanatory)
alison (self-explanatory)
juliets (interactions w/nutella clear her, i don't read her as 3p)

strong town lean:
tutuu - (conviction on her read on me felt incredibly genuine, i doubt she would have this approach as scum/3p)
oddmerta - (frustrating/overly stubborn reads but tonally very pure and good interactions w/the flipped wolves)
poison - (incredibly pure tone and great interactions with the flipped wolves)

weaker town leans:
master radishes - (interactions with sprit imply that they arent teamed, the rest of their game has been invisible to me)
samu - (incredibly pure tone and that's basically it)
tonystarkprime/colin - (pretty good interactions with nutella)
dyachei - (tbh i don't find them that towny but some of their interactions with nutella are indicative of them not being partnered and everyone with meta on dyachei is saying this is their town game)

scummy:
drwigly - (weak interactions w/the flipped wolves and hasn't towntold)
Dyslexicon - (bad interactions & bad tone, would not surprise me if they were a wolf or 3p)
herm - (bad interactions with nutella. like, really bad)
JPIC - (seems transparent to me that this is scum that claimed to investigate mac because they realized they got caught visiting. i have no idea why anyone is townreading him)
nanook - (i actually find this tone slightly more towny than JPIC's but i feel obligated to put him in this tier because of the visit)
long con - (comparatively less scummy than the other people in this tier but hasn't made an impression on me whatsoever)
ted - (this one is probably unpopular but i cant think of a single thing ted has done this game that i would call towny. he just hasn't and i dont understand why he'd be so demotivated as town)
tim: - (i dont love his pushes and a lot of his posts feel like scum aggressively flailing. i do not tr him)

if i had to rank that bottom tier from least scummy to most scummy, it'd be:

long con
ted
dyslexicon
nanook
herm
tim
drwigly
JPIC

worth noting that im hunting for scum and not 3p here. i dont care about finding 3p as much right now

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:40 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:10 pm The simple fact that we know there's a mafia rolecop and we have a cop with a check on Mac coming out just screams mafia to me.

Maybe it's bias but maybe it's just occam's razor.

Why would town jpic go to Mac when he was town reading him instead of choosing two of his nulls at his own will.

Like, come on. Seriously.

No matter how much he'd be trying to solve here ; nobody has yet to give an actual answer to this.

If you are a mafia rolecop and you are caught by a watcher, the easiest thing to do is claim alignment cop when you're mafia rolecop.

I'm willing to yeet a potential town cop when the "coincidences" are so glaring to fit my theory.

We have 2 mafia roles left, yeah? 1 of them is mafia role cop confirmed by Poison. We know the other is a post capper.

I really don't know why I have to be talking about this. It would be very lame if both nanook and jpic are wolves but it is very probable that's the case lol.

feel free to poke holes in my case because I do miss things and it's late.

do you think like 3 wolves or 2 wolves and 1 3p targeted mac?

because i doubt a role cop visited mac otherwise

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:59 pm can someone who trs ted explain what they see in him? im just Not getting good vibes from him so far even if his avatar is cute

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:03 pm This game is now annoying.

Spending a little while on night 2 doing some 3p hunting isn't a big deal especially since I had concluded Sprityo interaction analysis anyway. It's not like the whole thread is oogity boogity over the 3p. Dyachei just do whatever you want.

Also Tutuu please don't try to wreck my JPIC plan. I explained the plan at length. If we let him check people who are in the POE in this gamestate he can just bus.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:04 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:59 pm can someone who trs ted explain what they see in him? im just Not getting good vibes from him so far even if his avatar is cute

As someone who just lost to mafia Ted he's playing nearly the exact same game.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:15 pm @Justplayingitcool what did you find wolfy about Mac that caused you to change your mind and check him instead? Did he have a bad progression on nutella? If so, why? What posts gave you bad feelings?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:38 pm i actually have a big concern about mac's plan for JPIC if he ~is~ scum (and i think he is), but i dont wanna express it so that i dont give maf any ideas lmao

but there is a way it could backfire

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:41 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:38 pm i actually have a big concern about mac's plan for JPIC if he ~is~ scum (and i think he is), but i dont wanna express it so that i dont give maf any ideas lmao

but there is a way it could backfire

I know what you're referring to.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:04 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:59 pm can someone who trs ted explain what they see in him? im just Not getting good vibes from him so far even if his avatar is cute

As someone who just lost to mafia Ted he's playing nearly the exact same game.

As someone who just won against mafia Ted...yeah there too.

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:08 pm would he be this laid back while his team was getting destroyed?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:08 pm would he be this laid back while his team was getting destroyed?

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:53 pm Town:
hally
mac
alison
juliets

poison
tutuu
spf
MR

Lean town:
odd
drwilgy
samu
ted
colin
tim

Null
dizzy
herm

Lean wolf
nanook
jpic

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:16 pm @DrWilgy ur mafia dude

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 5:42 pm
dyachei - (tbh i don't find them that towny but some of their interactions with nutella are indicative of them not being partnered and everyone with meta on dyachei is saying this is their town game)