The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:04 pm**

I expect you to understand I read people by their general thoughts and one message can slip

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:05 pm**

everything else is immaterial and I have no argument that isn't a conf bias

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:05 pm**

I wouldn't be surprised if Dyslexicon was mafia and did do that stuff as mafia. I'd be like "dang". Not surprised. But it's also just anti the probability mindset I solve with when I'm in this particular hyper fixated headspace.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:05 pm**

I do have a single lapse

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm**

oh Mac

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm**

I did this a lot in the mash

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm**

I think it bodes rather well for you that your choice of who to push here as the bottom POE is the person that I am least likely to agree with you on. That is what I need to ascertain whether you are capable of doing as mafia because if you were mafia doing this you would most likely be doing this specifically to demonstrate that your interest is in solving and not surviving which is very clever.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm**

iso my mash play, you'll see 2-3 other god reads

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm I did this a lot in the mash

I am not seeing anything in the wolf game you posted that is making me think that I am not looking at the same version of you though.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm I did this a lot in the mash
I am not seeing anything in the wolf game you posted that is making me think that I am not looking at the same version of you though.

wait wait wait, you think my scum play was good?

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:09 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm I think it bodes rather well for you that your choice of who to push here as the bottom POE is the person that I am least likely to agree with you on. That is what I need to ascertain whether you are capable of doing as mafia because if you were mafia doing this you would most likely be doing this specifically to demonstrate that your interest is in solving and not surviving which is very clever.

you and I both know I'm this clever which is the problem

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:09 pm**

you also know I can make that read

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:10 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm iso my mash play, you'll see 2-3 other god reads

I already said that I don't have any doubt that you make reads like this. It is not really what I am trying to figure out right now. I am sure that if you are town that you believe the read you have. I need to figure out whether your mafia play has faking them within it, pushing on the green check's top town to project that you aren't a wolf in survival mindset etc. You aren't playing like a level 1 (or even really level 2) wolf.

My goal here is to work out who to chop today because this is the last chop I will influence, so my motives are unusual. This is essentially f3 for me with 7 other players.

I need to figure out whether I should just sleepwalk to chopping you and then let the rest of the town figure it out if I'm wrong, or if I'm actually willing to let you live past me.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:11 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm I did this a lot in the mash
I am not seeing anything in the wolf game you posted that is making me think that I am not looking at the same version of you though.
wait wait wait, you think my scum play was good?

no it's just superficially the same looking stuff, I haven't had the time to really read it yet I just skimmed it to see if there is any surface similarity and ... there is.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:12 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:11 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:06 pm I did this a lot in the mash
I am not seeing anything in the wolf game you posted that is making me think that I am not looking at the same version of you though.
wait wait wait, you think my scum play was good?
no it's just superficially the same looking stuff, I haven't had the time to really read it yet I just skimmed it to see if there is any surface similarity and ... there is.

this is good, means people can't meta read me

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:13 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:10 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:07 pm iso my mash play, you'll see 2-3 other god reads
I already said that I don't have any doubt that you make reads like this. It is not really what I am trying to figure out right now. I am sure that if you are town that you believe the read you have. I need to figure out whether your mafia play has faking them within it, pushing on the green check's top town to project that you aren't a wolf in survival mindset etc. You aren't playing like a level 1 (or even really level 2) wolf.

My goal here is to work out who to chop today because this is the last chop I will influence, so my motives are unusual. This is essentially f3 for me with 7 other players.

I need to figure out whether I should just sleepwalk to chopping you and then let the rest of the town figure it out if I'm wrong, or if I'm actually willing to let you live past me.

using the word sleepwalk is why you will agree with me

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:17 pm**

probably

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:18 pm**

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm**

@Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:23 pm**

@Vulgard @Vivax

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:24 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two

What are you convincing me of

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:25 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:24 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
What are you convincing me of

voting dizzy

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:26 pm**

vulgard/flanders is lazy

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:29 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:36 pm The way I see it, the best play is to kill Porscha.

The most fun play is to kill Achromatic.

killed axe to sus achro

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm**

achro died

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two

You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.

vote dizzy

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm**

read up and see

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm**

what music do u linen to @MacDougall

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm**

listen

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm**

the sound of screaming children

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:34 pm**

I am disappointed that Ender is now permitted to say that I caused his mischop.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:35 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm the sound of screaming children

I would've said this is sarcasm, but after 2 months working with children it's really easy to block it out and be indifferent

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:35 pm**

@DrWilgy I require some analysis from you please.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.
vote dizzy

Wow, very convincing.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 pm**

Okay the only person so far I am able to comfortable townread is Vivax. Some of his day 1 posts spew him clear of being partnered with Porscha due to lack of TMI.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.
vote dizzy
Wow, very convincing.

read up and see, I god read her

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm**

If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.
vote dizzy
Wow, very convincing.
read up and see, I god read her

I have read up.

You saying you have a confident read on Dizzy does nothing for me when I view you as more likely to flip wolf than Dizzy.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".

it's strategic, you see that to some degree don't u? the overall play

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:40 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".
it's strategic, you see that to some degree don't u? the overall play

of course

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:40 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".

This is a fair criticism, but their read in contention was on D1, right? They weren't inactive on D1.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:40 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.
vote dizzy
Wow, very convincing.
read up and see, I god read her
I have read up.

You saying you have a confident read on Dizzy does nothing for me when I view you as more likely to flip wolf than Dizzy.

I can pull up 5-6 times I read someone like this, do you want me to pull it up?

that's lazy

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:41 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:13 pm nanook/seanzie my POE

How is Seanzie still in your poe?

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:42 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:41 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:13 pm nanook/seanzie my POE
How is Seanzie still in your poe?

read more, I changed my opinion after some self actualization

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:45 pm**

Hmmm Vulgard has been so much townier than Flanders but then I'd expect that as either alignment... Unfortunately Vulgard cannot be read through spew which is lame.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:45 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:40 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:39 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:36 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:30 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:19 pm @Seanzie @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME now I have to convince u two
You're welcome to try, but I'm pretty stubborn.
vote dizzy
Wow, very convincing.
read up and see, I god read her
I have read up.

You saying you have a confident read on Dizzy does nothing for me when I view you as more likely to flip wolf than Dizzy.
I can pull up 5-6 times I read someone like this, do you want me to pull it up?

that's lazy

Lucy, if you are town here, I really recommend trying to work on communicating your thoughts.

You're essentially trying to demand I listen to an appeal to authority when I have no reason to respect said authority (you can bring up as many examples as you want where you were right about a read... so can I, and so can the worst mafia player ever as long as they've played a reasonable number of games) and ignore the fact that from my POV if you're a wolf, your Dizzy read is just fake.

If you want me to vote Dizzy, you're going to have to get me to think or feel Dizzy is scum. I'm not just going to blindly trust you.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:46 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:39 pm Nanook is still quite likely town for the Axe kill.

Wilgy doesn't really have anything going for him. Why is he not in anyone's POE?

I'm pretty sure I should be in the PoE, but not sure if I should be placed towards the bottom.

I think the only players that are strictly out of PoE are you, Vivax, Seanzie and Dizzy based on previous interaction.

Nook and I have our own little thing going on. Still find Nook's play to be less concerning than Lucy's based on what we discussed yesterday.

Idk I'm still trusting Achro's call on the Flanders slot, but I may need to re read the Porscha interactions there later.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:48 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:37 pm If I had to articulate succinctly why Dizzy is mafia I would say... "their reads have been far too accurate for someone who is playing the game the way they are, that is to say not really playing it at all".
This is a fair criticism, but their read in contention was on D1, right? They weren't inactive on D1.

You should reread their ISO and give me your thoughts. I think while they weren't inactive on d1, it's still fair to say that they weren't actually playing the game. Dyslexicon was willfully refusing to participate on day 1 early and most of their reads were "I don't feel like playing" and then suddenly they just had the entire solve.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:48 pm**

Don't worry dead town crying in dead chat I'm not gonna ignore your legacy reads all day lol.

The Syndicate

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