The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:08 am**

dude everyone chill

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:17 am**

"disgusting"

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 am**

Sounds like a bunch of chickens beckering

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 am**

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 am Sounds like a bunch of chickens beckering

Okay okay. Hold up. How do forum posts sound like chickens?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am**

none of your opinions are important, giving up is always a boring choice so don't do it. :\

even if we were in a dire situation, feeling despair would be the boring choice, but we're not in a dire situation, there are so many roads left that lead to victory.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am**

[mention]lapluie[/mention] sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:40 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am none of your opinions are important, giving up is always a boring choice so don't do it. :\

even if we were in a dire situation, feeling despair would be the boring choice, but we're not in a dire situation, there are so many roads left that lead to victory.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:49 am**

I always go through every Mafia game in despair, so this kind of thing bounces right off me.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?

What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:58 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 am Sounds like a bunch of chickens beckering
Okay okay. Hold up. How do forum posts sound like chickens?

Bawk bawk? ?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:29 am**

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 am Sounds like a bunch of chickens beckering
Okay okay. Hold up. How do forum posts sound like chickens?
Bawk bawk? ?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:36 am**

We can win. But it will take the civilians that are left to be very good.

I was thinking earlier that we have fostered an environment that allows too much comfort for the Mafia. Civilians acting like not civilians. We get so turned around that we lynch players for seeming TOO civvie and shit. We should issue a standard and force the mafia out into the open by being relentlessly adherent to it.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:57 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:29 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 am Sounds like a bunch of chickens beckering
Okay okay. Hold up. How do forum posts sound like chickens?
Bawk bawk? ?

EXACTLY!

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:26 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:36 am We can win. But it will take the civilians that are left to be very good.

I was thinking earlier that we have fostered an environment that allows too much comfort for the Mafia. Civilians acting like not civilians. We get so turned around that we lynch players for seeming TOO civvie and shit. We should issue a standard and force the mafia out into the open by being relentlessly adherent to it.

Idk sounds boring

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:42 am**

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?
What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it

....your night power.... hopefully you've been using it??

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:44 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:36 am We can win. But it will take the civilians that are left to be very good.

I was thinking earlier that we have fostered an environment that allows too much comfort for the Mafia. Civilians acting like not civilians. We get so turned around that we lynch players for seeming TOO civvie and shit. We should issue a standard and force the mafia out into the open by being relentlessly adherent to it.
Idk sounds boring

Ok

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:59 am**

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:37 pm Let's lynch Marmot tomorrow

I just submitted my nightkill of you.

I also just leveled up.

Better luck next time.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:53 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am none of your opinions are important, giving up is always a boring choice so don't do it. :\

even if we were in a dire situation, feeling despair would be the boring choice, but we're not in a dire situation, there are so many roads left that lead to victory.

I overreacted after the lynch, I agree with this completely.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:54 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:05 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:55 pm Do you guys want to talk about anything aside from the civilians being doomed?

Like what about the fact that colonialbob is scum but is still alive and playing?
How do we know he is scum?

I'll do an ISO on him and see whether my initial suspicion is still warranted. And he has asked for one.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:55 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:26 pm I'm more suspicious of Epi after today.

I might ISO him.

He's kind of a wild card with the D1 gambit and other things.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:32 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:26 pm I'm more suspicious of Epi after today.

I might ISO him.

Any outcome?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:33 am**

I will be flipping my MO. Since Jay was town we can look back and trust that his reads were genuine. He is a very good player so he probably had some good cases.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:37 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:41 pm At this point we don't know which of you goes but it's time for you to say your last words in case it's you.
Any civilians who contributed to my destruction: I forgive you. You did what you thought was best to progress our team just like I have done, and I cannot fault you for being wrong. We all are most of the time.

Some base points:

~ Never lynch the following players: speedchuck, MacDougall, Dragon D. Luffy

~ These are civilian reads, though I would encourage vigilant investigation anyway: nutella, lapluie, Kylemii, gwilikers6, Kenway, Kites

~ I think he looks like a civilian, though my tinfoil is twitching: rundontwalk

~ I think read this guy as a civilian, but he has nonetheless done what I perceive to be a lot of damage to the game. This is not some petulant gripe, this is serious: he has contributed to the worsening climate for dunya, who was an obvious civilian (speedchuck carries on that credit). He has been rigidly confident in his read on me without having lynched a separate mafioso first, meaning he thinks he can snag me without interactive clues. He still hasn't done shit with his exercise. These don't have to make him bad, but if y'all fail to press him on these issues and any other you identify, then you are asking for it.

~ I have no reason to give any of these people civilian credit or otherwise have active suspicion of them: colonialbob, DrWilgy, Iron_Dwarf, Long Con, Marmot, sprityo, Quin

~ My top suspect is DrWilgy. Beyond the fake dunya crap, I also think he's by nature a high-chance don selection. Everybody loves Wilgy and would be pleased to have his unpredictable nonsense on their team with them.

~ USE YOUR DAMNED P.O.E. Make your cases and pursue them with fervor, but do not overestimate your own capacity to see through people. So far it hasn't gone well. Finding the first one is always the hardest part. Rely more on your civilian reads and work together.

Anyone object to carrying out Jay's final wishes and lynching the doc?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:17 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:32 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:26 pm I'm more suspicious of Epi after today.

I might ISO him.
Any outcome?

9/10 times I say I'll ISO someone I procrastinate it until the end of time

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:22 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:42 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?
What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it
....your night power.... hopefully you've been using it??

hey, yeah... what? [mention]lapluie[/mention] please tell me you've been using your cop power?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:43 am**

Expecting civs to use their night powers is the path to insanity. It's not worth it.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:44 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:36 am We can win. But it will take the civilians that are left to be very good.

I was thinking earlier that we have fostered an environment that allows too much comfort for the Mafia. Civilians acting like not civilians. We get so turned around that we lynch players for seeming TOO civvie and shit. We should issue a standard and force the mafia out into the open by being relentlessly adherent to it.
Idk sounds boring

You're one of the first people I'd like to force in the open. I can't recall anything you have done this game.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:46 am**

I think I might follow Jay's theory and go for easy lynches

Sprityo
LC
Kites
Lapluie
Quin
Wilgy

Bet there are at least 2 scum in there. Probably 3.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:46 am**

Though if vigs didn't suck so much Id tell them to mass murder those guys.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:14 am**

Lynch Wilgy

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:50 am**

town rn

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:46 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:42 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?
What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it
....your night power.... hopefully you've been using it??

OK, something that I have never been full clear about, but I assumed because no one else was talking about it. I want to know for sure I have this right.

There are classes, there are backstories, there are countries, and there are alignments. Together, these four things make your role. Is that apt?

Everyone's classes are public, and it's not all that debatable who is what.

Backstories are secondary secret role conditions. Some grant an extra power, others alter the player's interaction with the game slightly (I'm option B). Anyone can make up any backstory they like. Backstories can be identical, but not to people of the same class.

Countries. Not everyone knows their country. All baddies are from Badguyia, but not all from Badguyia are bad. This information does not coordinate in any game-meaningful way with the first post factions, because then we'd be Civ-clearing all the green ones and lynching sig, lapluie, and gwil.

Alignment is what matters most, and there are two.

...so is that all accurate?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:46 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:37 amAnyone object to carrying out Jay's final wishes and lynching the doc?

Hell, I voted for Wilgy yesterday based on JJJ's case. Would do again.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:50 am**

Regarding alignments/countries, I have no idea. I mean, I'm copping tonight, but IDK about the rest. With as many misdirects and weird alignment stuff as this game has, I'm mostly relying on good old-fashioned scumhunting.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:55 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:26 pm I'm more suspicious of Epi after today.

I might ISO him.
He's kind of a wild card with the D1 gambit and other things.

I must hear more about the D1 gambit.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:51 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:46 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:42 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?
What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it
....your night power.... hopefully you've been using it??
OK, something that I have never been full clear about, but I assumed because no one else was talking about it. I want to know for sure I have this right.

There are classes, there are backstories, there are countries, and there are alignments. Together, these four things make your role. Is that apt?

Everyone's classes are public, and it's not all that debatable who is what.

Backstories are secondary secret role conditions. Some grant an extra power, others alter the player's interaction with the game slightly (I'm option B). Anyone can make up any backstory they like. Backstories can be identical, but not to people of the same class.

Countries. Not everyone knows their country. All baddies are from Badguyia, but not all from Badguyia are bad. This information does not coordinate in any game-meaningful way with the first post factions, because then we'd be Civ-clearing all the green ones and lynching sig, lapluie, and gwil.

Alignment is what matters most, and there are two.

...so is that all accurate?

Yes, this is all my understanding, with the possible exception of the underlined. I'm assuming you mean since backstories are secret anybody could fakeclaim one? Mafia are given the backstory their role would've had if town. Afaik all backstories were just a secret part of the roles, fixed at the beginning of the game.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:53 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:50 am Regarding alignments/countries, I have no idea. I mean, I'm copping tonight, but IDK about the rest. With as many misdirects and weird alignment stuff as this game has, I'm mostly relying on good old-fashioned scumhunting.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:55 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:26 pm I'm more suspicious of Epi after today.

I might ISO him.
He's kind of a wild card with the D1 gambit and other things.
I must hear more about the D1 gambit.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 85#p409485

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:54 am**

Also this one. read it before the other actually.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 84#p407184

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:56 am**

Also I'm down following the JJJ plan [mention]MacDougall[/mention] [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

I also think his POE suggestion was good. If we can cross off likely civs that should help find mafia. FWIW this is why I think he was pushing the 'easy' lynched.

(Also that term is kinda stupid because if they were easy how come we haven't actually lynched any of them?)

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:00 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:46 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:42 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:57 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am @lapluie sorry if i missed it, did you ever tell us about the results of your latest thief check?
What the heck does that even mean, idek anything about this game im jist blindly playing it
....your night power.... hopefully you've been using it??
OK, something that I have never been full clear about, but I assumed because no one else was talking about it. I want to know for sure I have this right.

There are classes, there are backstories, there are countries, and there are alignments. Together, these four things make your role. Is that apt?

Everyone's classes are public, and it's not all that debatable who is what.

Backstories are secondary secret role conditions. Some grant an extra power, others alter the player's interaction with the game slightly (I'm option B). Anyone can make up any backstory they like. Backstories can be identical, but not to people of the same class.

Countries. Not everyone knows their country. All baddies are from Badguyia, but not all from Badguyia are bad. This information does not coordinate in any game-meaningful way with the first post factions, because then we'd be Civ-clearing all the green ones and lynching sig, lapluie, and gwil.

Alignment is what matters most, and there are two.

...so is that all accurate?

yes that's all true I think, but because of the nature of background countries lapluie and speedchuck's roles are basically a sometimes unreliable alignment cop, with a margin of error for civs who were born in badguyia and mafia um.... whatever the opposite of a Miller is. It's a valuable role.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:43 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:00 pm whatever the opposite of a Miller is.

Godfather, right?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:50 pm**

@speedchuck I love your new banner

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:55 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:44 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:36 am We can win. But it will take the civilians that are left to be very good.

I was thinking earlier that we have fostered an environment that allows too much comfort for the Mafia. Civilians acting like not civilians. We get so turned around that we lynch players for seeming TOO civvie and shit. We should issue a standard and force the mafia out into the open by being relentlessly adherent to it.
Idk sounds boring
You're one of the first people I'd like to force in the open. I can't recall anything you have done this game.

My phone failed to post my response the first time, but you’re correct. I haven’t done jack squat yet except protect Epi every night. (Minus night 2 because I forgot to submit that)

I agree with what LC put up earlier regarding the roles. I mean this game isn’t exactly the easiest for Hunting, at least how I think of it, there’s no “fake” claims outside of backstory and even then you probably wouldn’t need to fake it, everyone’s roles are public and all we have to go off of is interactions and reveals.

So DDL if you plan on wrangling the town into some kind of shape and “force [myself] into the open.” What do you plan on doing to me?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:57 pm**

Mafia, who do you plan on killing tonight?

I want to make sure not to target the same person.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:16 pm**

lol yeah unless he's self-targetingno

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:19 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:50 pm speedchuck I love your new banner

Thanks!
[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] made it for me.

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:12 pm**

Night 3

Epi, Mac and Sprityo sat around a campfire.

“Good work, you two,” Epi said with a dazzling smile. “Thanks to your support, I was able to stop those Badguyian ruffians from killing anyone.”

“Excuse me your highness,” Mac said, humbly. “But I’m pretty sure I stopped the Badguyian kill.”

Epi bonked Mac on the head with her staff. “Lying to a princess is a very serious crime you know. I’ll let you off with a warning.”

Sprityo used her own staff to heal Mac. “You both did very well. I especially love the way Mac’s big biceps look.” She reached out and gave his muscular arm a feel.

“You mean when I’m swinging my axe on the battlefield?”

“Just in general. Anyway, we all did well but it was pretty obvious to me that I’m the one that stopped the Badguyia kill.”

Princess Epi hit Sprityo on the head, too. Sprityo rubbed her head and gave Epi a look of pure pitifulness. Epi rolled her eyes and healed Sprityo with her staff.

************

The wyvern rider flew towards the pegasus rider with death in his eyes. The pegasus rider flew towards the wyvern rider with determination in hers. At breakneck speed, they closed the distance between them. At the last moment, the shy pegasus rider closed her eyes in fear and threw her javelin.

It missed by a mile.

Sigmund’s lance did not. The poor pegasus was skewered and it’s rider was thrown overboard. As she fell towards the ground, she managed to cry out “Hazel!” but her sister wasn’t there to save her. When she landed, the impact was enough to make her fade away.

************

Prince Rico had his father buried. After the brief funeral, a young mage dressed like a banana approached the group. “Excuse me. Lord Rico? My name is Kenway. My teacher and I have been protecting border towns from bandits (as is tradition) since the war began. We’d like to help you defeat the Badguyia army.”

“Kkwhatever.”

They traveled to a hidden, vaguely magical forest nearby to meet the banana mage’s teacher, a wise old sage named Kylemii (son of the equally great sage from the prequel game, Ticklemii).

“Great sage Kylemii,” Marshal implored, “Please provide us wisdom to aid the party.”

“Stop letting Rico be in charge,” Kylemii advised. “He’s an idiot who didn’t want to play this awesome game. Put Sloonei in charge.”

“But I think Sloonei’s Lanistering his sister.”

“Doesn’t matter. Sloonei is half based on Ephraim and half based on Hector. He’s fucking invincible. With Sloonei on our side, we should be able to easily beat the Badguyian army.”

************

In the morning, Sprityo snuck out of her sleeping bag and crawled over to Mac’s. Only, Mac wasn’t inside. She and Epi waited and waited but Mac never came back. He wasn’t the kind of person to skip out on a contract since he needed the money so badly. Someone must have attacked him but whoever had done so hadn’t left behind any clues.

Long Con has been killed by a critical hit. She was a shy sister. (Town)

MacDougall has been killed by a critical hit. He was a mercenary for a good cause. (Town)

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:14 pm**

Night 3
Who should Lord Rico recruit?
Poll ended at Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:13 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Kenway the Mage
7
35%
Voters: nutella, Kylemii, MacDougall, speedchuck, Marmot, Dragon D. Luffy, Quin
Kylemii the Sage
2
10%
Voters: Kites, Iron_Dwarf
Quin the Myrmidon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hazel the Pegasus Knight
1
5%
Voters: DrWilgy
Wilgy the Pirate
0
No votes
Voters: None
Bob the Mercenary
1
5%
Voters: colonialbob
Elsie the Pegasus Knight
1
5%
Voters: Long Con
Kites the Archer
2
10%
Voters: Epignosis, gwilikers6
Warf the Knight
1
5%
Voters: lapluie
Lapulie the enemy Thief
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sigmund the enemy Wyvern Rider
0
No votes
Voters: None
Gwilly the enemy Monk
0
No votes
Voters: None
Oh God! I lost my paladin. Should I reset? (host/not playing/dead)
5
25%
Voters: Scotty, dunya, insertnamehere, JaggedJimmyJay, Jackofhearts2005
Total votes: 20

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm**

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] what is a shy sister? Is that civilian?

And mac was civ, correct?

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm**

Oh nvm I see you put it in the OP.

Damn

Posted: **Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 pm**

Tried to misdirect Kites and it failed.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

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