The Syndicate

I like quality wins

Yesterday Review

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:02 am If turnip is scum I want him alive for this content

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 pm I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:29 pm Oh what the hell
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

Idk what to do with this mess.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:22 pm Yesterday Review

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:02 am If turnip is scum I want him alive for this content

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 pm I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:29 pm Oh what the hell
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

Idk what to do with this mess.

Ignore it or praise it. Take your pick

Yesterday Review

Kyle and Daisy go “lolwut” at Wolbre.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:34 pm who shot first between speed and jack? what's the timeline

Goodish look for Kyle.

If he’s w/w with Speed, he knows the answer. Maybe that’s NAI. Certainly not eyeing a save.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:22 pm Yesterday Review

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:02 am If turnip is scum I want him alive for this content

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 pm I have speed as a town read, if I don't lynch him that makes me look bad

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:29 pm Oh what the hell
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

Idk what to do with this mess.

Ignore it or praise it. Take your pick

Where’s your head at?

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:03 pm My soul tells me that 2-3 of these are Mafia
Nova
Dunya
Luna (Pending more oracle convincing/discussion)
Spacedaisy

Most to least sus:
SD
Dunya
Luna
Nova

is it possible someone on the scum team with BTSC wouldn't have realized luna was lynched here?

I mean, they hot potatoed her. I feel like scum would have been laughing and patting each other on the backs.

[mention]dunya[/mention]

Doesn’t read particularly sincere. Nai.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:02 pmI have no fresh reads, have barely followed along in the last week, and have minimal energy for mafia right now. Work is sucking the life out of me right now and when that happens I don’t enjoy playing mafia because I’m just stressed and irritated, and this stops being a fun use of my time. I’m sorry to everyone, I hope I can get back on track in a couple of days.

But Sloon, everybody here is having a good time, and so that makes me wonder, why would this game

Why would you NOT be having

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:02 pmfun

with us?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:02 pmfun

Could it be so simple as to be, because, you are, in fact

AN IMPOSTER EVIL SLOONEI SENT FROM PERSIA BY THE FALSE KING HIMSELF TO DOUBLE CROSS EVERY LAST SINGLE ONE OF US?

Yesterday Review.

Kyle seems pretty passive/noncommittal starting here.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 63#p438763

Posts just “huh” a couple times and this vote is uninspired.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:01 pm i wanna see what happens if i [vore]speedchuck[/vore]

Possible 3P hinting to the mafia “don’t kill me”

I do find it funny how he only added a text entry to Luna's slot though.

but I am not familiar enough with his meta to know if these fake-townslips are something he'd intentionally drop in the thread.

the whole "Jay, do we PM you our nightactions or what" post also came back to me now.

oh nevermind, he said it was a previewed post from the day before. not a townslip.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:04 pm

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:03 pm My soul tells me that 2-3 of these are Mafia
Nova
Dunya
Luna (Pending more oracle convincing/discussion)
Spacedaisy

Most to least sus:
SD
Dunya
Luna
Nova

luna just got lynched yo

I just posted a previewed post from yesterday rip

Ignore luna

but I gotta say, that makes me feel better about him, not worse. :\

Yeah, I’m feeling better about wolbre in my perusal of his iso

Also weirdly feeling better about cbob and worse about Quin with more thought too

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:39 pm Also weirdly feeling better about cbob and worse about Quin with more thought too

why "weirdly"?

I ask because I don't remember anything you've said about cbob or Quin.

Yesterday Review

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:59 pm @colonialbob

Tell me why Speedchuck is not a good lynch today.

He had early pressure/vote on Colin

I don't see much in his ISO that makes me real nervous I guess. I also don't see much that makes me feel real comfortable.

If nova is bad I think he is likely bad.

Soft point to lynch Nova before Speed. Lotta that from yesterday.

Check this exchange. Pro boards = btsc

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:57 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:19 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:17 pm nah dude let's pretend I'm bussing you first

I don’t get lynched but even if I did, I imagine you wouldn’t go after Speed next so that’s a no go.

This is a thing bad Jack says.

Strike 2.

This is a thing Jack says. You’re striking yourself.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:10 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:07 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:06 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:01 pm Actually, @colonialbob show me one time mafia Jack has ever said that. I can’t think of one.

I've seen you say that on proboards.

Moving goal posts much? What I share on a mafia btsc and what I say on a game thread are two entirely different things and you comparing the two is scummy.

K.

Talk about people besides speedchuck please.

I’ve given a read on everybody and an explanation for every one of those reads.

You talk about somebody else.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 6:14 pm Sorry folks I ended up making last minute plans after working today and only just remembered this is ending soon.

I don't love any of these trains but I admit I was mostly poking Jack to see how he'd react. I feel his reactions were fairly townie.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Does this read legit? “K. Talk about someone besides Speedchuck. Oh, I was just testing you. Vote:Speedchuck.” Note I am bad at reading Bob and easily buddied. Bob is aware of both these things.

you're easily buddied? and pigs can fly.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:40 pm so many turtle haters. ya'll are monsters.

omg he's just a sad old turtle

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:42 pm you're easily buddied? and pigs can fly.

I start scumhunting from myself cause I’m generally only aware of one townie.

I wonder who the persians think we're voting for today

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]

Will we get a vote count at EOD?

Or are votes hidden today for good?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:41 pm I ask because I don't remember anything you've said about cbob or Quin.

I mentioned yesterday in my readthrough of speed that it looked like he was putting both replacements in his D1 rainbow list in different areas for no particular reason and I felt that one of them was bad because of it. I was leaning more cbob yesterday but after more thought I think Quin looks more sus. I’ll see if I can’t do quin’s Iso later today

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:46 pm I wonder who the persians think we're voting for today

I’m voting for sprityo

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:53 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:46 pm I wonder who the persians think we're voting for today

I’m voting for sprityo

Famous last words

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:49 pm @JaggedJimmyJay

Will we get a vote count at EOD?

Or are votes hidden today for good?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:53 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:46 pm I wonder who the persians think we're voting for today

I’m voting for sprityo

modkill this man!

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:56 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:53 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:46 pm I wonder who the persians think we're voting for today

I’m voting for sprityo

modkill this man!

pls no

dunya no

cease and desist

im a turtle leave me be

Yesterday Review

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:23 pm Ok I’m gonna be catering all night and will miss the inevitable 5 page massacre that’s going to happen an hour before EoD.

I might pop in on bathroom breaks but I ain’t gonna be much use if there’s a shakeup.

I’m gonna go ahead and [VOTE: nova] aubergine

Getting antsy about Speedchuck. I’m back at forth on the guy and see he has 3 votes. He’s playing a sly baddie game if he’s bad. Totally possible, but I think nova is probably the person I’ve had lingering doubts in association with Colin. And I’m gonna follow Golden’s intuition on that here.

Don’t do anything crazy. Please for the love of god

Hate the mix of distancing and defending in this post. Reads like a teammate.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:58 pm Yesterday Review

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:23 pm Ok I’m gonna be catering all night and will miss the inevitable 5 page massacre that’s going to happen an hour before EoD.

I might pop in on bathroom breaks but I ain’t gonna be much use if there’s a shakeup.

I’m gonna go ahead and [VOTE: nova] aubergine

Getting antsy about Speedchuck. I’m back at forth on the guy and see he has 3 votes. He’s playing a sly baddie game if he’s bad. Totally possible, but I think nova is probably the person I’ve had lingering doubts in association with Colin. And I’m gonna follow Golden’s intuition on that here.

Don’t do anything crazy. Please for the love of god

Hate the mix of distancing and defending in this post. Reads like a teammate.

ok

I'm jumping ship to team ninja turtle

or turtle centurions rather

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:01 pm I'm jumping ship to team ninja turtle

I do not appreciate how waffly you've been this phase, Mr. Head.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:05 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:01 pm I'm jumping ship to team ninja turtle

I do not appreciate how waffly you've been this phase, Mr. Head.

Your lack of appreciation is very much noted

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:49 pm @JaggedJimmyJay

Will we get a vote count at EOD?

Or are votes hidden today for good?

If Jimmy won’t tell everyone, he won’t tell the mafia privately. With this in mind, scum will vote on a vote they can defend. So for example, if Bob is bad, he won’t vote for me.

Barring that, Scotty, Nova and (unfairly) Jack have gathered the most public suspicion before the day began. Mafia is going into the day planning to vote for one of those players that’s a townie, the one they feel is most likely to be lynched.

If Nova is good (and I’m not saying he is), Nova is the most likely to be lynched player that just about anybody can defend a vote on. So I think the mafia votes there if Nova is good.

If Nova is bad and Scotty is good, it’s pretty easy to justify a Scotty vote, even after the fact if Nova is lynched.

Beyond that, it depends on the player. Bad Scotty could vote for me. Bad Bob won’t. Etc.

Scum only have two votes, though. Will they try to rip the lynch at the risk of tipping their hand? We’ll see.

If they've gained any sort of extra voting rights, it's a safe assumption they would save them for today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:49 pm @JaggedJimmyJay

Will we get a vote count at EOD?

Or are votes hidden today for good?

If Jimmy won’t tell everyone, he won’t tell the mafia privately.

what about if Jay won't tell anyone, town or mafia, how the votes were distributed? cos that seems most likely to me based on how this phase is set up.

I wonder if they're allowed to correspond about who they're voting for.

I wonder if Sloondawg saw my SHatner impersonation

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 12:36 pm Whatcha guys talking about?

ancient greece maybe youve heard of it

Go Greece lightning, go Greece lightning

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:12 pm If they've gained any sort of extra voting rights, it's a safe assumption they would save them for today.

Traders have traded away a cop, a role check, a watch, a track, a nightkill, a doctor, a double vote and a random anything.

Two traders stuck around awhile and could have traded town abilities to the scum and vice versa for other abilities. Townies could have gained scum rolechecks or busdrives or blocks. Scum could have gained town mass blocks, lynch survivals, vote negates, leonidas random offensive actions, misdirects, note passes, poll removal, or btsc with a commander. Those powers are all of equal or greater use to the team that doesn’t have them and I can see them being traded away and then given to the opposite side.

Other town abilities like the “give all dead Athenian powers to live Athenians” and “make a townie’s vote count more” and tracks and watches and cops or blocks that only work on certain alignments aren’t too useful to the scum or are very useful to the town. Either those don’t get traded to the 3Ps at all or they don’t get traded to the scum because blocks, role checks, busdrives and random offensive actions are better scum actions. Similarly, scum doesn’t trade away or town doesn’t trade for ninjaing, strongmaning or even the self nexus so we can assume these powers stayed with the initial factions.

With all this in mind, town has a lot of investigative powers. Late btsc, some half cops, some tracks, some watches and probably most of the 3P watch, track, cop and role check. I’d expect someone to have been caught by this by now. Then again, Syndicaters aren’t as good with night actions as me.

Scum probably has the 3P extra kill. Very high chance they got poll removal (particularly strong today), chance to survive lynch and/or vote negate.

Scum killing Choutas last night implies they didn’t ninja, which implies Art used a vote add last night, which sucks.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:16 pm I wonder if they're allowed to correspond about who they're voting for.

By btsc last night for sure. Why not?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 2:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:49 pm @JaggedJimmyJay

Will we get a vote count at EOD?

Or are votes hidden today for good?

If Jimmy won’t tell everyone, he won’t tell the mafia privately.

what about if Jay won't tell anyone, town or mafia, how the votes were distributed? cos that seems most likely to me based on how this phase is set up.

Yeah but if Jay won’t tell if he’s going to tell or not, would the scum vote as if Jay wasn’t going to reveal the vote count?

I wouldn’t risk it, personally.