The Syndicate

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:15 am oh esooa should be in VVV i forgot about her

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:16 am @Wiml why are u voting ur mason partner

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:55 am I was eating popcorn.

Why does Nanook have a wagon?

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:00 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:39 pm townreading alison this early when she is known as the best wolf on the syndicate is sus

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:14 am anyways im going to bed

VVV: Alison, Ilario, LimeCoke
VV: Transcend, EnderWiggin
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everyone else
W: Mac

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:14 am town: me, ale, alison, ilario, mac, tony

poe: rest

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:27 am basically the read on transcend was he should have known that LC was town if he was town and the fact that he expressed doubt was scummy and if that argument sounds like TMI to you then uh idk it is probably

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:55 am I was eating popcorn.

Why does Nanook have a wagon?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:29 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:27 am basically the read on transcend was he should have known that LC was town if he was town and the fact that he expressed doubt was scummy and if that argument sounds like TMI to you then uh idk it is probably

This sounds more like wtf than scummy. Those types of reads kill paranoid/doubtful villagers all the time.

I wanted to say that's actually towny for alexa in a vacuum if transcend didn't change his alexa read afterward. If you're wolfing, you don't push the villagers who are townreading you. However, if you're truthful about the reasoning used to push on him, that's so horrendous that I'm back to scumreading her for it.

Did anyone else embark on the push with commentary other than placing naked votes? What did they say?

And have you fulfilled your solving quota for the day already? Is that why you aren't solving and just listening to me talk like illario?

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:25 am still don't tr brad and i has a sad but maybe i'm bad cause people are getting mad

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:26 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:20 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:20 am honestly I don't think Alison would fake the dumb tell as wolf

she just said that she would lol

she lies

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:38 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:37 am I thought Alexa suspected you earlier for your treatment of me.

@alexa What is your Transcend read?

Why are you talking to alexa, you already solved the game. Transcend and I are wolves.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:44 am I mean I wouldn't consider myself 1P seeing that I'm looking towards others with reads on certain players.

I'm actually the least 1P player that ever existed I feel.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:52 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:49 am I don't know how to say this

You start by putting the TH together.

Then you add the I to make the "eh" sound.

Then you put the S at the end.

THIS.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:55 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:54 am Turbo Mac time.

Only been live for half a day and already caught first red.

the conviction in this post doesn't feel sincere honestly

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:35 am @alexa do these nks make sense to you in an ender/tsp world?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:44 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:47 pm ah, makes sense

well i will say the games that illario has read me the most uncharitably have been his scum games historically. if i were him i wouldn't take the approach toward me right out of the gate as wolf so i'm a bit hesitant to call him scum, in my gut i actually feel he may be town because i kept expecting him to not townread me immediately in a game (and he doesn't always but he never has outed a SR me on this except when he was scum), and i feel like i'm approaching this game similarly as i would as wolf so i could see it, but in addition to what brad's saying i can't townread him yet

The continued self-awareness is killing me, but I'm starting to think it's a personality thing and not AI.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:54 am

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:44 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:47 pm ah, makes sense

well i will say the games that illario has read me the most uncharitably have been his scum games historically. if i were him i wouldn't take the approach toward me right out of the gate as wolf so i'm a bit hesitant to call him scum, in my gut i actually feel he may be town because i kept expecting him to not townread me immediately in a game (and he doesn't always but he never has outed a SR me on this except when he was scum), and i feel like i'm approaching this game similarly as i would as wolf so i could see it, but in addition to what brad's saying i can't townread him yet

The continued self-awareness is killing me, but I'm starting to think it's a personality thing and not AI.

didn't i defend you for gettin sussed for being overly self-aware in anni because ik im self-aware as town all the time or am i misremembering

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:04 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:52 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:49 am I don't know how to say this

You start by putting the TH together.

Then you add the I to make the "eh" sound.

Then you put the S at the end.

THIS.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:53 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:51 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:50 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:49 am I don't know how to say this

Lol say it. Go on. Do it.

worcestershire

It was harder figuring out how to spell it/spell it close enough so that the auto correct would list it. I had to google it.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:57 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:56 am What are you gesturing at Mac?

His drink is on the table behind you and he wants you to hand him his drink.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:00 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:00 am if Mac lives to day 2 I will quick hammer him, promise, no joke

You're funny.

like srsly why do ppl tr lime?

these are his 4 most recent posts, and none of them rly advance the game state.

town!brad tends to advance the game state quite a bit by offering his own insight on events that occur in the game but all this shit just feels blendy.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:56 am @ilario - Vulgard's posts on me feel extreme Uncharitable but i know i tend to get my view tainted by people's reads on me but it's not inspiring confidence on the slot, what do you think?

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:59 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:56 am @ilario - Vulgard's posts on me feel extreme Uncharitable but i know i tend to get my view tainted by people's reads on me but it's not inspiring confidence on the slot, what do you think?

hes town, and im not just saying that cos he trd me, if anything that made me a little wary. but then i thought to myself he would probably be less blatant about it if he were trying to pocket me

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:00 am

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:59 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:56 am @ilario - Vulgard's posts on me feel extreme Uncharitable but i know i tend to get my view tainted by people's reads on me but it's not inspiring confidence on the slot, what do you think?

hes town, and im not just saying that cos he trd me, if anything that made me a little wary. but then i thought to myself he would probably be less blatant about it if he were trying to pocket me

i disagree because it feels like he went into it with "oh maybe alexa is a wolf because she seems excited" (even though this game has been pretty miserable for me and i explained my excitement) then he went and started nit-picking my posts w/that assumption so i feel like he's pocketing you

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:01 am plus he literally knows my playstyle is like this cuz he's seen me in anni

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:02 am And oh, Lime Coke's Brad? Somehow, that didn't even occur to me until now.
Turbo the guy, in that case. I villaged with him in DragonVale (admittedly he was alting but not for long) and his play didn't look like this.

@alexa How uncharitable of me to wolfread someone who's constantly self-aware, overreacts to the slightest wolfread, seeks to appease people scumreading them and pushed Transcend for bad reasons on day 1 according to TSP. I could probably spare the sarcasm, but the fact you're OMGUSing me right away for this is honestly laughable.

There are some villagery things you've done, and you've definitely been solving, but I don't think it's unreasonable for me not to townread you based on what I've seen from you in the early game, which is all that I've seen so far. And considering you seem to have misyeeted Transcend who'd be among my top TRs right now if he were alive. Yes, villagers make mistakes and push on town all the time, but I'm not sure how you can have this "scumreading me is bad faith ditto" attitude with all that in mind.

I don't hold my DragonVale misyeet against people like illario because I defended two wolves in that game and it was natural to me I'd get suspected. If you're a villager, it should be natural to you too, but instead I sense immense salt.

Don't take this personally, this isn't an attack on your character. But regardless, I think me not townreading you and putting you in PoE is perfectly fine. And sure, LC defended you on a meta basis, but LC is also very wolfy - so I don't weigh that much, if at all. Plus, you defended him as well, and I think he probably flips W now. I won't pursue this line until I actually see LC's flip, but yeah.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:56 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:55 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:53 am

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:53 am

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:50 am does mac get caught this early as wolf very often?

i haven't played w him much but i'm giving ur thoughts about him due diligence

I haven't seen it with my own eyes but he says Hally and nutella called him out early in a game he played.

He also took heat early in Space Invaders but dug himself out rapidly with posts very similar to the ones he is making right now.

does he behave like this when he catches heat as town?

He doesn't catch heat as town.

Sometimes he does.

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:23 am oh good

[VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:25 am wagons might be tvt idk

just a threadstate read ig

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:42 pm I actually don't have a single read yet.

I know this is like, 105 pages back, but.

Lime Coke, why did you feel pressured to give reads on page 1? Your statement implies you felt like you should have reads but did not, and I’m not sure where the first part comes from. The only read on that page before your post was Nanook hard townreading Transcend (correctly, but that’s beside the point), so it’s not like everyone was giving reads left and right. I’m not even sure whether Nanook’s townread was serious.

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:05 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:41 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:38 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:21 pm Like, she hasn't really done anything that's her town game YET. If Alexa gets going she'll be obvious town.

Everything I do is my town game because I’m town

(I also agree I don’t think I’ve done anything AI yet if someone had a correct read on me it would be surprising or a crapshoot from numbers/probability odds)

Yes, and everyone that is townreading you that's not me has TMI.

I will then tunnel those individuals, and then complain about them once they flip town and take 0 blame.

Then proceed to lead town into an L.

…Sure. Kinda villagery? The mindset presented isn't something I see wolves fake very often, because it's dumb and wolves ~usually~ don't want to sound dumb.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:07 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:40 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:38 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:36 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:30 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:27 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 11:26 pm ok that last post from LC is actually villagery af

yes @Lime Coke but i have some problems with it

why do you think Wiml is town?

What are the problems?

first thing that sticks out from memory is the "TMI" read on transcend because transcend was nook's first townread, why would that approach be considered TMI?
i will go through it for real though actually in the morning i'm kind of too tired to game right now but yeah

Because who ACTUALLY townreads Transcend in this game? Even if you "say" you townread him, you never actually meant it. Fuck him, ya'know.

Nanook just threw a townread on Transcend and never explained why. It's a TMI read.

Idk dude he looked like obvious town to me

That's not a real thought.

did you read his posts

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 7:13 am

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:59 pm kind of gut townreading EnderWiggin

I'm not seeing where she's getting that from. I know it's gut, but still.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:01 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:59 pm kind of gut townreading EnderWiggin

Agreeing with you. The "I'll find him by Day 3" post was actually kinda bad ass and towny.

It feels like Lime Coke is just agreeing with everything alexa is saying, no matter what it is. And sure, Lime has a townread on alexa already at this point, but the complete and utter agreeability is... odd. Especially since I don't even find alexa towny judging by her posts until then.

?probably? not W/W? I can't see them aligning themselves together so quickly in a game and setup like this, where they'd have to hope neither ever flips, because otherwise both will - and town wins.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:34 am do you think wiml/vul is a wolf though? i mean u trusted everyone elses reads in ur champs game even though ur better judgement told u it was justin. if wiml/vul is town and he gets mishammered and ur gut told u he was town you'll regret it more than if the slot is maf and u didnt hammer them because you trd it.

id always rather lose through my own mistakes than lose through someone elses.