The Syndicate

Same spf

I mean maybe compensated in the form of an undoctorable night kill on anyone who might have revealed too much

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:33 pm I mean maybe compensated in the form of an undoctorable night kill on anyone who might have revealed too much

maybe they had a strongarm kill as compensation so whats why ur doctor on hally failed

Well it doesn't appear you were blocked because you shot jpic. Maybe wolves have an unblock able kill?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

i am distrustful of this claim

Why?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:33 pm I mean maybe compensated in the form of an undoctorable night kill on anyone who might have revealed too much

I would not speculate too much in this area.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:33 pm I mean maybe compensated in the form of an undoctorable night kill on anyone who might have revealed too much

maybe they had a strongarm kill as compensation so whats why ur doctor on hally failed

Yeah that’s my suggestion. Simplest explanation.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm My role does not forbid me from claiming.

Also claim

I'm an x shot protector. I protect people from non-civilian non-lethal powers. N1 I protected Alison so unless I was role blocked, her stuck on the lift thing was a civilian action. N2 I holstered.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm I'm the cop. I have no roleclaim or infodumping restrictions despite being a straight cop (whee). Every time I target someone, the mafia are told who I target, except for the nights after a mafia member dies (so they don't know shit).

Night 1 I targeted Colin/TSP. I was put in a lift.
At the start of night 2 I was given my night 1 result. This indicates that the "lift" effect temporarily delays night reports, it does not block them completely. TSP is a civillian.

Night 2 I targeted nanook. nanook is a civillian.

With Hally dead I can't delay this claim any longer, so here's my infodump.

Unfortunately not much help here

Sorry. N1 I hit the person in my POE that I thought had good scum equity, but that wasn't likely to be exed any time soon. D2 I copped nanook just to clear up the uncertainty surrounding the party at Mac's house once and for all. I was also hoping that in the rare case that nanook was a wolf and JPIC was the second cop for real, I could at least keep him alive a bit longer. Unfortunately the way the night turned out the information wasn't too important. I also considered copping Wilgy but ultimately decided it was better to just resolve the nook slot instead of having it hang over our heads if JPIC flipped postcapper.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

i am distrustful of this claim

Why?

easy claim for mafia with TMI to make and i doubt there are two watchers which means he's probably softing a tracker/motion detector esque ability which does not jibe very well with the rest of the claims we've seen so far

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:33 pm I mean maybe compensated in the form of an undoctorable night kill on anyone who might have revealed too much

I would not speculate too much in this area.

sucks but its part of the game :nanook shrug:

like, last mech heavy role (tsp's game) the mafia was given compensations for town doing dumb stuff that they shouldnt have been doing, and it can get confusing if u completely dont think about it

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm My role does not forbid me from claiming.

Also claim

I'm an x shot protector. I protect people from non-civilian non-lethal powers. N1 I protected Alison so unless I was role blocked, her stuck on the lift thing was a civilian action. N2 I holstered.

Why did you holster?

Also what do you think of the fact that Radishes also claims protect on Alison?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm A question has been asked in private which I will answer here:
The Mafia team may be compensated in the event of angleshooting or illegal infodumping in the thread.

will this be announced if it happens?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

i am distrustful of this claim

Why?

easy claim for mafia with TMI to make and i doubt there are two watchers which means he's probably softing a tracker/motion detector esque ability which does not jibe very well with the rest of the claims we've seen so far

What if I told you you were wrong but I'm suspicious of the claim as well

Good morning and good night! Another scum down. Also, gg Hally.

Now,

Radishes is lying. [mention]Master Radishes[/mention] can you please claim your song name?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm My role does not forbid me from claiming.

Also claim

I'm an x shot protector. I protect people from non-civilian non-lethal powers. N1 I protected Alison so unless I was role blocked, her stuck on the lift thing was a civilian action. N2 I holstered.

why holster?

JK, JPIC targetted tutuu

needless to say if y'all have any more doctors, bodyguards, watchers, bulletproof vests, and whatever other tricks up your sleeves, please direct them to me tonight.

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

i am distrustful of this claim

Why?

easy claim for mafia with TMI to make and i doubt there are two watchers which means he's probably softing a tracker/motion detector esque ability which does not jibe very well with the rest of the claims we've seen so far

What if I told you you were wrong but I'm suspicious of the claim as well

then i'd be interested in hearing your reasoning once we hear from radishes

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm JK, JPIC targetted tutuu

i am not post capped

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm JK, JPIC targetted tutuu

??????

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm I'm the cop. I have no roleclaim or infodumping restrictions despite being a straight cop (whee). Every time I target someone, the mafia are told who I target, except for the nights after a mafia member dies (so they don't know shit).

Night 1 I targeted Colin/TSP. I was put in a lift.
At the start of night 2 I was given my night 1 result. This indicates that the "lift" effect temporarily delays night reports, it does not block them completely. TSP is a civillian.

Night 2 I targeted nanook. nanook is a civillian.

With Hally dead I can't delay this claim any longer, so here's my infodump.

Unfortunately not much help here

Sorry. N1 I hit the person in my POE that I thought had good scum equity, but that wasn't likely to be exed any time soon. D2 I copped nanook just to clear up the uncertainty surrounding the party at Mac's house once and for all. I was also hoping that in the rare case that nanook was a wolf and JPIC was the second cop for real, I could at least keep him alive a bit longer. Unfortunately the way the night turned out the information wasn't too important. I also considered copping Wilgy but ultimately decided it was better to just resolve the nook slot instead of having it hang over our heads if JPIC flipped postcapper.

FWIW I love your choice because I was still thinking Nanook could be the 3P and with the rock solid no maf clear that was gonna be a perpetual problem.

I am very interested to hear from [mention]Oddmerta[/mention]

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

i am distrustful of this claim

Why?

easy claim for mafia with TMI to make and i doubt there are two watchers which means he's probably softing a tracker/motion detector esque ability which does not jibe very well with the rest of the claims we've seen so far

What if I told you you were wrong but I'm suspicious of the claim as well

then i'd be interested in hearing your reasoning once we hear from radishes

Do you think it's possible there are 2 similar relatively weak in this format roles?

Alison do you also get 3p results or are you just see town or not town?

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm JK, JPIC targetted tutuu

i am not post capped

That's good. He tried to cap you at least.

i don't believe wilgy's claim but I'm also very tired so I'm going to sleep and sort all this out later. hopefully you will all have done the work for me and I'll be able to just snooze through the day and powerexe wilgy or whatever

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:39 pm Alison do you also get 3p results or are you just see town or not town?

i think i get 3p results. will check with sloonei.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:36 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:33 pm I mean maybe compensated in the form of an undoctorable night kill on anyone who might have revealed too much

I would not speculate too much in this area.

sucks but its part of the game :nanook shrug:

like, last mech heavy role (tsp's game) the mafia was given compensations for town doing dumb stuff that they shouldnt have been doing, and it can get confusing if u completely dont think about it

I know...I'm just concerned that too much speculation about compensation might be grounds for more compensation.

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

oh my fucking god I don't detect the rogue

so basically I copped nanook for no reason

that was one hell of an unforced error

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:39 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:04 pm On the bright side, I know JPIC didn't target anyone last night.

i am distrustful of this claim

Why?

easy claim for mafia with TMI to make and i doubt there are two watchers which means he's probably softing a tracker/motion detector esque ability which does not jibe very well with the rest of the claims we've seen so far

What if I told you you were wrong but I'm suspicious of the claim as well

then i'd be interested in hearing your reasoning once we hear from radishes

Do you think it's possible there are 2 similar relatively weak in this format roles?

i do now based on your reaction, tbh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:36 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:31 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:29 pm My role does not forbid me from claiming.

Also claim

I'm an x shot protector. I protect people from non-civilian non-lethal powers. N1 I protected Alison so unless I was role blocked, her stuck on the lift thing was a civilian action. N2 I holstered.

Why did you holster?

Also what do you think of the fact that Radishes also claims protect on Alison?

I holstered because I'm an x shot and didn't want to use all my abilities up front. Saving some of my ability until late game came in handy in another big game I played, in fact the host praised me for it (Jay or Sloonei). My claim doesn't mean Radish didn't save Alison from death - I can only protect against non-lethal actions.

I feel stupid now

town:
watcher
doctor/vig
cop
tracker
protector

mafia:
50% POST CAPPER

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:42 pm town:
watcher
doctor/vig
cop
tracker
protector

mafia:
50% POST CAPPER

which is why I don't believe the tracker claim.

I would have definitely doubted the TSP claim if I didn't have a green check on him. I guess he can be 3P but whatever

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:42 pm oh my fucking god I don't detect the rogue

so basically I copped nanook for no reason

that was one hell of an unforced error

Cuz yeah I want wilgy to outright claim but I know I've put dual roles into my games before to break counterclaims

dude if i was master radishes and i was mafia i would graveyard backup the 50% POST CAPPER and POST CAP A MEMBER OF THE TOWN so that they can only use 50% OF THEIR POSTS

I could easily have asked Sloonei during the night any time if I detect rogues and just forgot to because I was tired and locked my cop in. Having a cop on Wilgy would be so much more valuable here. Ugh.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:43 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:42 pm town:
watcher
doctor/vig
cop
tracker
protector

mafia:
50% POST CAPPER

which is why I don't believe the tracker claim.

I would have definitely doubted the TSP claim if I didn't have a green check on him. I guess he can be 3P but whatever

I guarantee there's at least 1

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:40 pm So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

1. Alison - Straight cop that mafia discover who they targeted - N1 targeted TSP and got delayed (stuck in a lift) got result n2 (town), targeted Nook n2 (town)
2. TonyStarkPrime (Replaced ColinIsCool Night 1) - Claims 1 shot vigilante, x shot doctor. Targeted Hally (fail), targeted JPIC (hit?)
3. DrWilgy - Seems to be a tracker?
4. dyachei - No claim but seems to be able to claim?
5. Dyslexicon - No claim
6. juliets (Replaced Fallen Prince Day 1) - X shot protection from non lethal non town actions - Targeted Alison n1, holstered n2
7. Hally - CONFIRMED - Town watcher, targeted Mac N1 - Destroyed the mafia
8. Herm - No claim
9. Justplayingitcool - CONFIRMED - Mafia post capper
10. Long Con - Three times during game can target a player to stop them voting for him (but he also can't vote them)
11. MacDougall - Banned from claiming
12. Master Radishes - Claimed to be able to use dead PR, targeted Alison n1 with Nutella's doctor
13. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Targets potential NKs to get an extra vote. Targeted Mac n1 and didn't get a vote. Has a cop clear.
14. Oddmerta - No claim but has softed a bit
15. Poison Chan - No claim
16. Samusamu - No claim
17. sprityo - CONFIRMED - Mafia multiple role asshole
18. staypositivefriend - Banned from claiming
19. tedxtr - Claimed to have night kills, no confirmation on actions
20. Timsup2nothin - Claims to have role that modifies depending on the balance of the game
21. tutuu - Yet to claim but seems to be able to if she wants

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:40 pm So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:44 pm dude if i was master radishes and i was mafia i would graveyard backup the 50% POST CAPPER and POST CAP A MEMBER OF THE TOWN so that they can only use 50% OF THEIR POSTS

I mean we don't know what the secret part of nutella role did, for all we know she could have thanos snapped us in half or some shit if we allowed her to live for a bit. We also don't know what kind of power the other scum roles are packing. We just got... unlucky? I guess? That JPIC, who was the most easily caught member of the wolf team, had the worst role. In some alternate timeline JPIC drew the godfather strongman ninja with two dayvig shots and we're celebrating in thread when he flips lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:47 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:40 pm So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

read or mech?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:40 pm So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

If any townie targeted Ted, speak up now. I don't want you to tell me what you are or what you did to Ted, I just want you to corroborate Wilgy's claim.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:47 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:40 pm So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

read or mech?

It's the most viable claim I've seen tbh. It could be that the mafia have a rolecop though and they know how to make good fake claims now.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:48 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:44 pm dude if i was master radishes and i was mafia i would graveyard backup the 50% POST CAPPER and POST CAP A MEMBER OF THE TOWN so that they can only use 50% OF THEIR POSTS

I mean we don't know what the secret part of nutella role did, for all we know she could have thanos snapped us in half or some shit if we allowed her to live for a bit. We also don't know what kind of power the other scum roles are packing. We just got... unlucky? I guess? That JPIC, who was the most easily caught member of the wolf team, had the worst role. In some alternate timeline JPIC drew the godfather strongman ninja with two dayvig shots and we're celebrating in thread when he flips lol

oh i dont think we're unlucky at all!

im just laughing at jpic and how useless his role is and how he outed himself for no reason just to minorly inconvenience mac

Oh then that may be why

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] ive basically claimed at this point just not my actions