The Syndicate

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

He's not people are just using a ridiculous tinfoil to accuse him off being a wolf because scotty shot IAWY

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:17 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

He does this as town. I've seen it multiple times. This is not a reliable read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:12 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

He came in and tried to spark conversation. People slapped him down. He became agitated. People called him a big bad wolf.

It made little sense.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am Alison's perspective is fake.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:18 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:12 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

He came in and tried to spark conversation. People slapped him down. He became agitated. People called him a big bad wolf.

It made little sense.

I actually think the wolves may have attempted to kill him last night

1) There are a huge amount of players in this game.
2) Town obviously has a lot of KP.
3) 1 + 2 = Mafia probably has more than 1 KP a night.
4) There was only one unclaimed kill on N1, and all the claimed kills were on slots that a town would quite reasonably shoot.
5) 3 + 4 = The Mafia probably has more than 1 KP a night and some of that KP went missing, ie. the wolves carrying the kill were blocked or the kill targets were protected by a doctor.

If anyone made a roleblock last night, step forward now... otherwise it seems likely that some mafia kills were healed by a doctor.

The most obvious doctor targets is Alison the perennial N1/N2 kill who claimed vigilante, and Mac the perennial N1/N2 kill who claimed cop.

Ergo I think there's a good chance that either me or Mac were healed last night. This is also a defense against the people who are asking why I wasn't blocked/killed

Gonna continue catching up

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:14 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am Why do you think you weren't blocked?

the most obvious one is that mafia figured I'd shoot pyxxy and didn't feel threatened by it? or they just didn't have a blocker

What about the other names you were suggested, like Radishes? Do you think he's just town too, or that the wolves somehow specifically thought you'd go for pyxxy?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:19 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

That's NAI at best, why is he actually mafia

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

He's not people are just using a ridiculous tinfoil to accuse him off being a wolf because scotty shot IAWY

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:20 am back to you tutuu

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:14 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am Why do you think you weren't blocked?

the most obvious one is that mafia figured I'd shoot pyxxy and didn't feel threatened by it? or they just didn't have a blocker

This question is largely a formality, but:

Why did you claim in the first place?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:18 am
This is also a defense against the people who are asking why I wasn't blocked/killed

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:18 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:17 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

He does this as town. I've seen it multiple times. This is not a reliable read.

and he does it as a wolf

and I've seen him do it exactly like this, right now... when he was wolfing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:07 pm "Happened once when he was mafia" =/= "never does as town"

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:18 am
This is also a defense against the people who are asking why I wasn't blocked/killed

Those are different though, even if you were killed your kill would go through, this says nothing about why you weren't blocked

I think you jumping to "they figured I'd shoot pyxxy" is a perspective slip that you are w/w with radishes (and/or whoever your other possible targets were idk 112 or sig)

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:20 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:14 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:12 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am Why do you think you weren't blocked?

the most obvious one is that mafia figured I'd shoot pyxxy and didn't feel threatened by it? or they just didn't have a blocker

What about the other names you were suggested, like Radishes? Do you think he's just town too, or that the wolves somehow specifically thought you'd go for pyxxy?

In the world where they didn't have a blocker they couldn't do jack shit about my shot

In the world where they do have a blocker I think Radishes is pretty likely to be town yeah.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:25 am Bc why not say they'd assume you'd shoot town regardless of who on the list it was. Your target was narrowed down and you facilitated an easy way to get a town target the way you claimed in thread

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:29 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:25 am Bc why not say they'd assume you'd shoot town regardless of who on the list it was. Your target was narrowed down and you facilitated an easy way to get a town target the way you claimed in thread

I mean I literally wrote in thread that I thought pyxxy was outed mafia, pyxxy even made a meme about it. It's not hard to imagine mafia just going "well Alison is probably going to shoot the person she called an outed wolf, and we know that person is town, so why block her?" I did say I wouldn't disclose who my shot target would be at EOD1 but anyone capable of basic reading between the lines would be able to see that it was likely to be pyxxy.

Another possibility is that everyone I was likely to shoot (pyxxy, Radishes, Porscha was my shortlist and I think it was fairly easily guessable) was just town so they didn't give a fuck

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:56 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:53 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:44 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:43 am I'm probably just correct that it was pyxxy and he's outed.

What is with the people saying pyxxy made the shot? Did he soft that he was going to shoot lucy or something?

I hypothesize that he won the image prize because he had previously reacted positively to the image that won, and generally fits as a suspect

@Alison

oh I see

I guess it could be a frame but I suspect mafia would care more about maximizing their chances to win the event than specifically fishing for an image that would frame pyxxy, especially since he's a random POE slot that would probably die on his own anyway

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

This is probably just occam's razor correct, he liked the image, he submitted it, and didn't realize the trail would lead back to him because the shot was silent

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

I approve of the direction this discussion is going in.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

I approve of the direction this discussion is going in.

Do you have any reads other than "Mac is town"?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:33 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

I approve of the direction this discussion is going in.

Do you have any reads other than "Mac is town"?

Yes

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:35 am Lol oh yesterday when Alison and I were going at it Alison was supatown but now that I think she's town she's suspicious I see how it is lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 am This has been a really fun period of the game watching people argue about my alignment but I'd really just like you all to read interactions between Sabi and I and stop now cuz it's unnecessary.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 am This has been a really fun period of the game watching people argue about my alignment but I'd really just like you all to read interactions between Sabi and I and stop now cuz it's unnecessary.

agreed

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:55 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:52 am sabi is mafia tho

I wouodnt be surprised either tbh

Taking back the mommy comment

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:33 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

I approve of the direction this discussion is going in.

Do you have any reads other than "Mac is town"?

Yes

What are they?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:48 am

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:46 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:44 am Skimming since I was afk.

Do agree with nutella and Alison that vig shot was definitely not from town.

Mac hasn't felt towny at all and I would like to vote him.

HK is still missing?

Dennis seems better now.

Also pyxxy wagon is gross but also lol this meme

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:11 am ----------------------------------------
| pyxxy (b. YYYY)
|
| Reasons to Vote Pyxxy, 2023
| Multimedia
|
| Gift of D. Lu and Sons.
----------------------------------------

How do we know party Crasher didn't submit the meme?

ok wolf

how about you vote a wolf like rask who is obvious mafia

Mac plz

I can't read Rask for shit so explain the Rask is obv mafia read to me

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:52 am sabi is mafia tho

I'm not taking your bait.

You know that's a way to get under my skin. You do this every wolf rand against me.

Get new material

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:02 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:00 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:57 am I'm not seeing how Mac is town when he hasn't town told but go on tell me how he's out of wolf range.

agreed (if this is directed to me, I guess u didn't read my previous post correctly or I wasn't clear)

It's directed at the thread popping in to say he's town when I said he was wolfy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:40 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:33 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

I approve of the direction this discussion is going in.

Do you have any reads other than "Mac is town"?

Yes

What are they?

Nutella town, neom town, scotty town, rondo town. And I’m entertaining the case against you.

I’d also like the record to show that I twice stated a town read on Cape Day 1, but you monsters blew him up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:21 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:41 pm Does anyone else want to insult me some more step right up

I hear you're into crystals

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:42 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:40 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:34 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:33 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:30 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:28 am Like does anyone else see what I'm getting at here I might not be explaining it well but it makes sense in my head

I approve of the direction this discussion is going in.

Do you have any reads other than "Mac is town"?

Yes

What are they?

Nutella town, neom town, scotty town, rondo town. And I’m entertaining the case against you.

I’d also like the record to show that I twice stated a town read on Cape Day 1, but you monsters blew him up.

I can buy the nutella/neon/rondo reads.

Why do you think Scotty is town?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:15 pm Like nobody has actually engaged me in any meaningful way. I've made a couple of light pushes and got omgussed by players that should know better than that. There seems to be no really coherent strategy to this day. The top posters are all players who aren't post count polarised so I can't base any read on that. The only empirical thing is probably that Porscha 2 posting is >rand mafia for her. Seanzie and Rondo not tilting me already might be indicative of them not being town maybe I guess? Lily and Neon seem okay? On the little I've read I would guess Sabi is more likely in their wolf meta? Lots of the scum solving going on just rings hollow or rand at best and I don't really have the energy to figure out much.

So all that to say, checks in the mail or something I'm gonna keep vibing. Where's @DrWilgy at.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:18 pm @Sabiplz why are you voting for Nutella?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:45 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:37 pm Sabi anxious to volume clear themselves off a bunch of fluff posts is sus

Townreading @falcon45ca for this. Doubt he'd go after Sabi so bluntly as mafia. Sabi literally the person he'd be least likely to engage in hostilities with.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:52 am sabi is mafia tho

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:18 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:17 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:10 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:09 am why are there 2 votes on me and guillo and 4 votes on mac

are you people trolling or what

mac is wolfing

Why is Mac wolfing

I haven't caught up yet so brief summary or quote of the more damning posts would be appreciated

he's doing that thing where the moment there's pressure from more than one person on him that he unloads a large amount of aggression, appeals to emotion, and starts talking about how he's just trying to be a good villager and everyone else is making that too hard for him, and they just need to give him space, and if they don't, they're bad at the game, etc etc etc

He does this as town. I've seen it multiple times. This is not a reliable read.

and he does it as a wolf

and I've seen him do it exactly like this, right now... when he was wolfing

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:48 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:44 am There's a certain calmness to his presence in this thread in the few moments we've crossed paths. Like there is nothing premeditated about any of the things he says or does, and he is just existing naturally in the game. I don't actually recall many reads he has given, but his posture feels authentic.

This is a tone read then basically?

My take on Scotty is that he has done fuck all this game and IAWY scumread him. I don't hold the IAWY shot against him, I would have done it too if I had a dayvig, but I do think that IAWY has decent reads in general and is particularly likely to have good reads because he is a member of the POE (POE members tend to have better reads because they have a green check on themselves and so have slightly better perspective than everyone else in the thread). I am not to-the-death convinced that Scotty is scum, but I don't see what you do in his tone and his actual solving has been kinda nonexistent. This is enough to put him in the POE - coupled with IAWY's conviction that he's mafia, I'm happy to vote him out.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 am Lily and Neon are town. I'm just masoning them btw. Sloonei shielding me here is also obvious town for Sloonei he just never pockets me contextually there's no benefit in doing so. Urist shielding me the way he did before with humour is bleeding obvious town. My heroes. I think Party Crasher is probably not mafia now though, Syn pushing me felt like real. Rondo also feels like he has a real read on me. Guillo's read is bogus tho.