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Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:47 pm
by Marmot
nijuukyugou wrote:Elohcin wrote:I'm voting for Chris today. Niju, I see you haven't voted yet...what are your thoughts?
Catching up...ugh. I knew I shouldn't have left it to tonight, but I wanted to read Harry Potter and play Sporcle instead last night :P
I am also a user of the Sporcle. 
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:48 pm
by Chris
Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:48 pm
by nijuukyugou
Metalmarsh89 wrote:nijuukyugou wrote:Elohcin wrote:I'm voting for Chris today. Niju, I see you haven't voted yet...what are your thoughts?
Catching up...ugh. I knew I shouldn't have left it to tonight, but I wanted to read Harry Potter and play Sporcle instead last night :P
I am also a user of the Sporcle. 
YESSSSSSS God I think I have an addiction but not a bad enough one to care because I'm a beast at geography now 
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:50 pm
by Chris
And MM is not a threat. I never said not to lynch him, but he's been exposed. No one will believe him. We see him right there, and he'll be there until we lynch him. He has no secret powers or night powers.
THAT'S how he's vanilla.
And you do recall that he was recruited. Why would The Master defend MM at all?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:50 pm
by Marmot
nijuukyugou wrote:Ugh, this is what happens when I don't get a vacation - I didn't notice MM voted Chris. Scratch what I said about saving teammates.
I need a drink.

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:51 pm
by Chris
Snow... what's up? Why are you sitting on that vote? Did you have to go back into your team chat to figure out why I'm asking you to vote for me, and how to handle it?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:52 pm
by nijuukyugou
Chris wrote:Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?
Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:54 pm
by Marmot
nijuukyugou wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:nijuukyugou wrote:Elohcin wrote:I'm voting for Chris today. Niju, I see you haven't voted yet...what are your thoughts?
Catching up...ugh. I knew I shouldn't have left it to tonight, but I wanted to read Harry Potter and play Sporcle instead last night :P
I am also a user of the Sporcle. 
YESSSSSSS God I think I have an addiction but not a bad enough one to care because I'm a beast at geography now 
I've wasted time on there. Lol
probably too much time...
But thanks to Sporcle, I also know every country in the world. Yay geography!
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:55 pm
by Snow Dog
Chris wrote:Snow... what's up? Why are you sitting on that vote? Did you have to go back into your team chat to figure out why I'm asking you to vote for me, and how to handle it?
I was doing toilet actually.

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:56 pm
by nijuukyugou
Snow Dog wrote:Chris wrote:Snow... what's up? Why are you sitting on that vote? Did you have to go back into your team chat to figure out why I'm asking you to vote for me, and how to handle it?
I was doing toilet actually.

Sporcle break time.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:56 pm
by Chris
nijuukyugou wrote:Chris wrote:Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?
Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.
He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.
Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.
There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.
But those are just my reasons.
But back to this whole The Master deal...
Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?
MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:58 pm
by Chris
OK Snowy! Now that you're all emptied out... how 'bout that vote?!?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:59 pm
by Marmot
Chris wrote:Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.
I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.
Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...
That's a weird thing for a civ with a kill protecton to say.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:59 pm
by Snow Dog
Chris wrote:nijuukyugou wrote:Chris wrote:Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?
Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.
He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.
Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.
There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.
But those are just my reasons.
But back to this whole The Master deal...
Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?
MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?
Sorry. I STILL don't understand why it's "just about impossible" that Hedge is a recruiter.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:59 pm
by nijuukyugou
Chris wrote:nijuukyugou wrote:Chris wrote:Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?
Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.
He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.
Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.
There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.
But those are just my reasons.
But back to this whole The Master deal...
Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?
MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?
Dammit, I thought I said "Sporcle break!" Ah well.
I thought Lucy was recruited BY the Master? Was that determined not to be the case? Her role sure says so.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:01 pm
by Chris
It said recruited.
Lucy had BTSC with The Master if they found each other.
That's not being recruited. That's having BTSC.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:02 pm
by Snow Dog
nijuukyugou wrote:Chris wrote:nijuukyugou wrote:Chris wrote:Just to be clear, what form of badiness do you think I am Ninju?
Most likely Master. What's the actual big deal with Bass? Something about Hedgeowl or some theory he (Bass) came up with? That's all I've gleaned so far.
He's voted lock step with Sabie and Snow Dog for the most part.
Voted Hedgie as being the recruiter when it's just about impossible for that to be true.
There was a missing PM on night 6, and Bass was gone that entire time until day 7, and there are far more baddie roles that have to send in PMs vs civ roles. His reasons for votes feel faked.
But those are just my reasons.
But back to this whole The Master deal...
Why did you think that I, as The Master, was defending MM when I was saying that he's essentially harmless?
MM is recruited as far as anyone knows, and The Master would need MM dead just like everyone else. So why would The Master care at all to protect someone who is not on his LMS team?
Dammit, I thought I said "Sporcle break!" Ah well.
I thought Lucy was recruited BY the Master? Was that determined not to be the case? Her role sure says so.
Her role does not explicitly say that the Master/Lucy relationship is recruitment.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:02 pm
by Marmot
Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:02 pm
by Snow Dog
Yeah....what Chris said.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:03 pm
by Snow Dog
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:04 pm
by Snow Dog
So the Master never found Lucy? He cetainly can now.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:04 pm
by Chris
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
LOL... knowing your role... this line just struck me as funny...
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:06 pm
by Snow Dog
Is the master still alive? When was his last NK attempt?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:06 pm
by Marmot
Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:07 pm
by Marmot
Snow Dog wrote:Is the master still alive? When was his last NK attempt?
I doubt he's dead, he does have 3 survivals. I think he kills on odds nights?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:08 pm
by Snow Dog
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Well i've been banging on about Chris being the Master for ages and it seemed most people disagreed. Quite strongly.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:09 pm
by Snow Dog
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Snow Dog wrote:Is the master still alive? When was his last NK attempt?
I doubt he's dead, he does have 3 survivals. I think he kills on odds nights?
I guess. I'm just having difficulty remembering him last being mentioned.
Chris I'm going for a shower. OK?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:10 pm
by Marmot
Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Well i've been banging on about Chris being the Master for ages and it seemed most people disagreed. Quite strongly.
Probaly because too many people suspect you to believe you. :P
Probably the same case for me too...
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:11 pm
by Chris
MM died day 6. That means, not factoring in that he was recruited, he would have had 5 chances of finding The Master.
29 players night 1.
27 players night 2.
26 players night 3.
24 players night 4.
21 players night 5.
I removed a player for each death, and 1 for each player he could have searched.
Those odds are still pretty slim. I thought that BTSC was broken if you were recruited, but the hosts won't answer that. So I suppose MM could be searching for The Master still, but whether he's still recruited or not, he still needs all of the civs dead to win.
Remember that.
LINKI @ Snow: Enjoy it. I'll be waiting for that vote!
And no MM, I'm not The Master. But I love your brilliant "revelation"...

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:12 pm
by Chris
Opps, remove 1 form all but the 29.
I forgot about the lynch deaths.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:12 pm
by Snow Dog
I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.
Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:14 pm
by Chris
I"m pretty certain Snow Dog isn't going to vote for me.
linki
And here's where Snow Dog hides his extra votes.
LOL!!!!!
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:15 pm
by Snow Dog
No Chris
Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities. If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.
And now....SHOWER!!!!
sploosh
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:16 pm
by Marmot
Chris wrote:MM died day 6. That means, not factoring in that he was recruited, he would have had 5 chances of finding The Master.
29 players night 1.
27 players night 2.
26 players night 3.
24 players night 4.
21 players night 5.
I removed a player for each death, and 1 for each player he could have searched.
Those odds are still pretty slim. I thought that BTSC was broken if you were recruited, but the hosts won't answer that. So I suppose MM could be searching for The Master still, but whether he's still recruited or not, he still needs all of the civs dead to win.
Remember that.
LINKI @ Snow: Enjoy it. I'll be waiting for that vote!
And no MM, I'm not The Master. But I love your brilliant "revelation"...

I'll let you know if I find him tonight.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:18 pm
by Chris
No Snow:
Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities.
If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.
IF she finds him, AND he's been targeted by a night action, THEN her win condition changes.
If she never found him, she is still LMS.
By what you're saying Snow, if we lynched Jenny or Madame, they'd show up as recruited too.
See what I'm sayin'?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:19 pm
by Chris
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'll let you know if I find him tonight.
You do that.
But seriously, do you think anyone is going to believe a word you say?
I mean, you're a recruited Indy.

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:21 pm
by Chris
Lastly... and I mean it, this is the last time I talk about whether MM's "recruitment" was for The Master.
Lucy searches for The Master. When was the last time some who was recruited had to search for their recruiter?
They don't.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:22 pm
by zeek
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Who else fo you think is bad?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:24 pm
by Chris
MM... LOL.. how the hell could I be the cyber controller?
THAT I've got to hear...
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:25 pm
by Chris
Chris wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'll let you know if I find him tonight.
You do that.
But seriously, do you think anyone is going to believe a word you say?
I mean, you're a recruited Indy.

Except Epig. He'll believe every word you say.

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:26 pm
by Dom
Chris wrote:Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.
I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.
Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...
Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?
Snow Dog wrote:I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.
Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.
That's not why I'm voting Bass....
He implied knowledge of how the recruitments work, which someone on the team would know.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:27 pm
by Snow Dog
Chris wrote:No Snow:
Lucy Saxon: The wife/companion of Harold Saxon AKA The Master. Every night, she searches for him. If she finds him, they gain BTSC and her win condition becomes the same as that of The Master. If he dies before her, she inherits his kill, but none of his other abilities.
If she finds him and he has been targeted by a night action, then her win condition changes to that of the civvies and she does not gain BTSC with him. But if he targets her for a nightkill, it will automatically be blocked.
IF she finds him, AND he's been targeted by a night action, THEN her win condition changes.
If she never found him, she is still LMS.
By what you're saying Snow, if we lynched Jenny or Madame, they'd show up as recruited too.
See what I'm sayin'?
Not really. We don't know what her wim conditions are if she never finds the master.
And that Jenny thing I don't understand at all
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:28 pm
by Marmot
Chris wrote:MM... LOL.. how the hell could I be the cyber controller?
THAT I've got to hear...
You have your teammate NK you to draw attention away from that idea. Since you'd survive anyway, and the Cybers have a kill each night, why not?

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:29 pm
by Snow Dog
Dom wrote:Chris wrote:Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.
I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.
Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...
Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?
Snow Dog wrote:I don't feel I can vote bass for holding the same suspicion of Hedge that I do. That'd be unfair. Chris got me convinced (with input from others) that he is jack. But now I'm unsure again.
Dammit this game has got me so paranoid.
That's not why I'm voting Bass....
He implied knowledge of how the recruitments work, which someone on the team would know.
Did he? Maybe he just assumed something? I'll try and find that post.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:32 pm
by Chris
Remember, the MM/Epig lynch was a tie on paper, but the hosts said it was not a tie.
Amy knows where she voted... If she voted for Epig, then she knows that The CyberHead found the body.
And Snow was one of the MM voters.
Linki @ Snow: Oh no you don't You don't get to go suddenly find a reason to vote Bass. Bass merely said that he thought there were three recruits using the same logic I did. Odd day recruitments.
Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:36 pm
by Marmot
zeek wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Who else fo you think is bad?
Chris is my main suspect right now.
I believe Elo and DF are good based on the Strax relations. I'm gonna stick with MP and SVS being good because it's just kinda obvious. I also trust Epi.
TH is flying WAY under the radar right now. That's all I've noted from him. He has a night action which is worth noting.
Indifferent on the rest, but I haven't focused on them. If Bass flips as a cyber, then my read on Chris will change. Anyone else you recommend looking at?
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:36 pm
by Chris
Dom wrote:Chris wrote:Snow Dog... I know you're itching to vote for me. Just do it.
I've really given up. Every time I make a post, someone turns it into an issue. I'm distracting from the game . I just want to pack it in.
Do me the favor. Put me out of my misery. Vote for me man...
Just curious, how did you react when MP did this?
Don't care.
It's different here.
Don't like it?
Vote for me.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:37 pm
by Snow Dog
Chris wrote:Remember, the MM/Epig lynch was a tie on paper, but the hosts said it was not a tie.
Amy knows where she voted... If she voted for Epig, then she knows that The CyberHead found the body.
And Snow was one of the MM voters.
Linki @ Snow: Oh no you don't You don't get to go suddenly find a reason to vote Bass. Bass merely said that he thought there were three recruits using the same logic I did. Odd day recruitments.
Dom, why didn't you find it suspicious that I used that same logic that Bass did. I said it before Bass did even.
Yes I found that post. I see nothing there but i want to know what Dom made of it.
Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:39 pm
by zeek
Care to elaborate on TH?
Just wanted to see who you'd mention really

Re: Dr. Who Mafia - Day 9
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:39 pm
by Snow Dog
Metalmarsh89 wrote:zeek wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Snow Dog wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why does Dom only make one post at a time?
Linki: I think I know who the master is, and not for that reason.
Who?
Chris, hesitantly. He could possibly be the Cyber Controller (that's right, I said it), or more preferably he could be Jack.
And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Who else fo you think is bad?
Chris is my main suspect right now.
I believe Elo and DF are good based on the Strax relations. I'm gonna stick with MP and SVS being good because it's just kinda obvious. I also trust Epi.
TH is flying WAY under the radar right now. That's all I've noted from him. He has a night action which is worth noting.
Indifferent on the rest, but I haven't focused on them. If Bass flips as a cyber, then my read on Chris will change. Anyone else you recommend looking at?
How do you know TH has a night action? And be careful who you think you can trust wwith recruiters.