The Syndicate

MyHero wrote:

ICantTakeAnyMoreCapnImGonnaBlow wrote:

Badman wrote:Sorry peeps, I haven't been following along that much. Going to vote Scotty cuz of the craziness that transpired last lynch.

Peace

wait. wat.

that's what you have to say after 2 days without voting or content?

"Not following along" and yet you drop a vote on me for the "craziness" of last lynch? So you ARE following along, and you think the last runaway train on me was crazy?


This guy is bad.

I'll agree with you on this one...multiple people asking to hear from Matt and then he just drive-by votes...definitely doesn't give me the warm fuzzies!

Scotty wrote:@HOSTS

This Night 1 post:

DirtySocks wrote:
No one has been killed by the Crooked Cops.

Matt has been arrested by Juliet O'Hara.

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone. Good luck!

is different from this night 2 post:

CelestialFlower wrote:

????? has survived a kill attempt by the Crooked Cops

Juliet has released Matt and arrested insertnamehere. He will be removed from the poll and cannot vote, post or use his ability. Since Buzz has been killed, arrested players will not lose their items.

Can you confirm that this means a kill was not attempted on Night 1?

LaundryDay wrote:

Haggis wrote:@HOSTS

This Night 1 post:

DirtySocks wrote:
No one has been killed by the Crooked Cops.

Matt has been arrested by Juliet O'Hara.

It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone. Good luck!

is different from this night 2 post:

CelestialFlower wrote:

????? has survived a kill attempt by the Crooked Cops

Juliet has released Matt and arrested insertnamehere. He will be removed from the poll and cannot vote, post or use his ability. Since Buzz has been killed, arrested players will not lose their items.

Can you confirm that this means a kill was not attempted on Night 1?

Correct, there was no kill attempt on Night 1, while there was on Night 2. Note that the failure to kill could be driven by inactivity or none of the baddies meeting their (secret) criteria to kill.

Scotty wrote:
What do yall think this secret criteria is? We know they have BTSC. Because even if it's a team-based thing, they would have to be around to do it anyway, so inactivity isnt a bad bet to count on.

BigTalker wrote:

ChiefEngineer wrote:
What do yall think this secret criteria is? We know they have BTSC. Because even if it's a team-based thing, they would have to be around to do it anyway, so inactivity isnt a bad bet to count on.

...but the host said all pms were received for night 1 so inactivity can be ruled out.

SocksinSpace wrote:Daisy is at work so I took care of everything this time. All PMs have been sent. If I overlooked you somehow or you have questions, let us both know, and one of us will get back to you ASAP. Thanks!

Scotty wrote:

BigTalker wrote:

ChiefEngineer wrote:
What do yall think this secret criteria is? We know they have BTSC. Because even if it's a team-based thing, they would have to be around to do it anyway, so inactivity isnt a bad bet to count on.

...but the host said all pms were received for night 1 so inactivity can be ruled out.

The host never said that in thread as far as I can tell. Are you referring to this?

SocksinSpace wrote:Daisy is at work so I took care of everything this time. All PMs have been sent. If I overlooked you somehow or you have questions, let us both know, and one of us will get back to you ASAP. Thanks!

It is referring to the host sending PMs. Not the other way around. Unless I'm missing something.

Scotty wrote:

ProbablyColdBlooded wrote:

VeryMuchHuman wrote:Oh nm INH is arrested.

I could vote Russ 2.0 just based on TH's behavior yesterday of asking to be arrested. It's not like he had alot of traction for a lynch today.

Russ 2.0: what do you make of your predecessor's desire to be arrested last night?

Well, being off the poll is always nice. TH was also replaced because of "host error", so maybe it had something to do with that?

Nice NO U, by the way. You're doing a decent job of pretending you have reasons for wanting me dead besides that I want you dead.

Which of the following do you think is more likely? That sig
a) is Shawn?
b) is Yang?
c) was saved by the Police Chief, who would not have known sig's alignment on Day 1?
d) saved by an item?
or e)

Scotty wrote:

WillNotWintheElection wrote:Sorry peeps, I haven't been following along that much. Going to vote Scotty cuz of the craziness that transpired last lynch.

Peace

wait. wat.

that's what you have to say after 2 days without voting or content?

"Not following along" and yet you drop a vote on me for the "craziness" of last lynch? So you ARE following along, and you think the last runaway train on me was crazy?


This guy is bad.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:How to vote Turnip Head in a game with no Turnip Head.

Drive By Voter wrote:I've feel like I've played enough games where my actions as a civ have come across in the most suspicious way possible to know when I see it in other people. I won't vote for Scotty today.

I like his insistence on trying to make people talk about other things. He asked a few times, but was still keen on arguing his case, which tells me that he's more likely to be a civvie attempting to uncover information than a baddie trying to hide behind a deflection strategy.

His 'I haven't checked my role card yet huehuehue' thing looks objectively suspicious on the surface, but what motivation does a baddie have to say that? There is absolutely no advantage in a baddie Scotty starting off his game in the way he did.

The lynch train that formed on him also makes me think he's civ. I don't see a situation where that bandwagon could get going that quickly and not have baddies jump on. For the sake of digging up as much as I can, here are a few defences here by nijuukujou and Matt, but I can't accuse either of them of saving Scotty in these posts:

Spoiler: show

nijuukyugou wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Thread, don't be a nightmare to read here.

I understand the contest, but those first few pages were a bit of a nightmare to get through.

Elohcin wrote:
Day 0 and he seems to be trying too hard to find something on someone.

Okay, so I just saw that there may be another option for me to vote. Niju. She has posted ONCE all game (Day 0). I know it's early and Niju is a quiet player. She usually posts only once a day. However, its easy for me to tell the difference between her quiet, helpful, civ playstyle and her quiet, laying low, baddie playstyle. I will keep this in mind if I can get back here before EoD. For now, sig, though.

Do you? But really, I considered going with what I keep saying I'm going to do every game beginning and go after a super-low poster. Problem is, that happens to be me yet again.

These votes are stupid spread out, and among people I believe have either been simply playful, or really haven't done anything ping-worthy, IMO. I think most very strange behavior Day 1 is avoided by baddies, and the types of things people are voting for (e.g., sig's theorizing, although I'll admit I had to tear myself from a vote for him because temptation but also not wanting to kill the guy AGAIN on Day 1; Scotty's "I haven't looked at my role card!" [because what reason is there for saying this as a baddie? I hope I don't eat my words]) fall into that category of "Why would someone do this Day 1 as a baddie?" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen and hasn't happened, but I'm saying it's not likely, and I avoid voting like that. Really, I found this post by Quin to be subtle, yet suspect:

Quin wrote:This argument confuses me. I'd rather make the argument sig is making against eloh against SVS instead. The fact that the Eloh argument has escalated to where it is just feels extremely 'meh' to me.

sig wrote:Okay I know it is verrrrry early day 0 but already two things have stood out to me.

rabbit8 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Yay! This looks like a super complex set up with the items. I have been mega busy recently with RL, but I was looking forward to this.

Um, since info on the poll is confirmed, I think we should be clear on why we are voting as we do. I am choosing Ice Cream Jerky since, A~ It does not have meat in it. And B~ I have had that freeze dried "space astronaut" ice cream, and it was acceptable. Most of this except maybe Fruit Loop Quesadilla,sounds awful.

Also never saw this if that makes a diff re options.

You mafia.....?

And SVS response.

S~V~S wrote:OMG, no lol.

I find it to be very strange.


This seems like an attempt by Eloh to look townie and make it seem like she doesn't have information while she really does.

Elohcin wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:

DFaraday wrote:This game is going to be great! All of those options sound amazing/revolting, so I'll have to mull it over.

Host: Does anyone have info on this poll?

not me

In other news, I have strong town reads for Epi, Wilgy and Elohcin. I'll elaborate on that later.

He did somewhat elaborate later on the suspicion of SVS, but that's not really what I'm pointing out. What gets me is why he would choose to point out three names and give them "strong town reads" on Day 1, claiming to explain later. Why do this? Buddying? Trying to appear like he's contributing? And why put a target on them? Going back, there isn't really a big reason to pick these three out of the bunch for "strong" town reads. Nah. This is weird. I know it's nitpicky, but it does kind of go with my desire to pick someone quiet(ish), yet subtle, for Day 1, instead of someone who stands out. Gonna vote Quin.

Spoiler: show

Matt wrote:Lol. Sorry sig. I was tempted by the tie, and I think it's silly to vote off Scotty because he was being silly about his role card.

Question...

sig wrote:I will be voting for matt tomorrow.

Does this mean you know you won't be lynched today?

At the very least I can entertain the idea of him being indie, or Yang hiding behind the security of his lynch immunity. But he's not bad. My vote today will be going to whoever best fits the criteria of a) posting with the intention of being removed from the lynch poll on Day 1 & b) voting Scotty based entirely on his 'I haven't checked his role card yet' nonsense.

Question/s: What's the deal with the engagement ring? From the way I read it, Scotty used it on Russ and as a result Russ became Scotty's personal meatshield? is that right?


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LoRab wrote:Voting Scotty. Again. For prior reasons, but also directly because of the last lynch. I can't fathom why a civie would switch a lynch to someone who hadn't been discussed as a suspicion, who hadn't been mentioned by the player, and wasn't the lowest poster...especially where there were suspicious players who had been named. It doesn't make sense to me from a civ perspective to have killed Russ 1.0. Scotty, if you can explain your choice, I may change my vote. But I really don't think that you're looking at all good at this point.

Scotty wrote:If I die, lynch Matt tomorrow

Beam me up baddie wrote:I'm glad no one is answering my previously asked question.

Sure, I look suspicious. I'm giving minimal effort as I proceed to move halfway across the country.

So if no one gives me some names, my hands are tied.

If I were to not be lynched today, who on the train would you rather see lynched?

sig wrote:I can't get over how little resistance there is to Scotty's lynch it seems strange if he is mafia.

However, at this point I don't see many other alternatives I still think matt is a little weird, as was Dom.

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:I can't get over how little resistance there is to Scotty's lynch it seems strange if he is mafia.

However, at this point I don't see many other alternatives I still think matt is a little weird, as was Dom.

What do mafia usually do? Stick their necks out in protest?

Matt wrote:Sorry peeps, I haven't been following along that much. Going to vote Scotty cuz of the craziness that transpired last lynch.

Peace

Scotty wrote:If i continue to talk to myself like I do in the bathroom IRL sometimes, we ain't winning this game y'all. More people should talk.

Scotty wrote:If I die, lynch Matt tomorrow

DFaraday wrote: RIP Scotty.

Russtifinko wrote:Quin, I see you're on. Thoughts on moving your vote away from LoRab since it seems to not be gaining any traction today? And whether yes ro no, how do you feel about the top candidates of today?

Spacedaisy wrote:We missed one part of the post, ????? survived a kill by Yin & Yang.

Sorry about that, it has been a chaotic evening for me.

We are going to end the Night at 11:00 PM EST tomorrow, please get your night actions to both myself and MP by 10 PM EST. I'm going to go get out any PMs I still need to.

Quin wrote:- Answering to both LoRab and Scotty who asked why I voted as I did. I think my vote could easily enough have been inferred from my earlier post. LoRab fit both criteria I listed earlier in that he was active in the 'don't be a' competition, and he also voted Scotty based on his 'I haven't read my role yet' gambit.

Russtifinko wrote:Quin, I see you're on. Thoughts on moving your vote away from LoRab since it seems to not be gaining any traction today? And whether yes ro no, how do you feel about the top candidates of today?

I didn't see this post before I left. I don't even remember checking the thread this morning, but I guess I did if you called me out on it. Apologies.

When I placed my vote I believe Scotty was the only one with more than one vote. I don't think anyone could be called a 'top candidate'. So as for Scotty, no, it was quite clearly a bad lynch. But no, I wouldn't have moved my vote from LoRab given my above reason for suspecting him. I don't have any stronger leads.

I'm interested in why you'd ask me to abandon my read just because it didn't gain traction. You didn't give me an alternative. Feels like something I should be worried about. Should I be worried about it, Russ?