The Syndicate

Cool. Not much to catch up on. I see MM and LC want to join me in voting low posters.

How about sprityo? I've played with him before and my initial impression of him this game is...safe. Not really getting into anything thick.

insertnamehere wrote:

sig wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@SpaceDaisy

In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it.

So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow.

I dislike this post, I say the same thing when I'm mafia.

That you aren't a baddie?

Saying I'm not a baddie, but would do such and such no matter what alignment I am. It is mainly a gut ping I thought was worth pointing out.

Scotty wrote:I'm back and catching up

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:HOLDEN! Don't mafia and drive! The game is not worth your life or that of anyone else on the road...

I realize it's a flimsy excuse, but I only do it on the highway when there aren't cars around.

THIS. See guys? It's not so bad if there's no one around. Or parked at a red light. Right guys?

It's like smoking cigarettes. It's bad when no one is around, but even worse when people are around!

Linki: I didn't even know sprityo was playing. Gotta try harder...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@SpaceDaisy

In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it.

So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow.

I appreciate your honesty regarding your meta, but it doesn't change my vote strategy for today's lynch. I'm not giving you a civ pass, but I'm not voting you today.

Epignosis wrote:I (for once in my life) believe Spacedaisy is good. If she is bad and fooled me, well good. She did well.

Back at ya Slick. Trust your gut when it comes to your read on me, you have yet to be wrong. I just hope you aren't trying to pocket me here...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I (for once in my life) believe Spacedaisy is good. If she is bad and fooled me, well good. She did well.

Spoiler: show

His first instinct was that I was bad in that game, he just wasn't as concerned about me because that was not his objective.

Linki @ Scotty: I could get behind a sprityo vote. Or I could stick with an MM vote.

Why MM?

I voted sprityo. Gotta go but his tone so far is calllllling to me like that bag of mustard and onion pretzels in the pantryyyyy

insertnamehere wrote:

Soneji wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote:I hope that Epi's scum game is half as good as he says it is!!

Why exactly would you wish this, if you were town? You can like a challenge but in the end its a competition where you want to emerge victorious, there is no well-wishing to be had.

I assume he hopes that Epi is bad at being scum, in case he has to play against a scum Epi. Not a super sincere case of well-wishing.

This is a weird post by Soneji. I read it as nacho hoping Epi was as good a scum as he was making himself out to be, since it makes the game more fun.

sig wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@SpaceDaisy

In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it.

So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow.

I dislike this post, I say the same thing when I'm mafia.

But I wouldn't believe you cause you've been MIA during all the game theory discussion.



Linki? @Scotty

I'll join the low poster train.

A random roll of the low posters gets Lorab.

If I rejected your suggestion of Spirityo right now and voted Lorab, what would you think of that?

Scotty wrote:I voted sprityo. Gotta go but his tone so far is calllllling to me like that bag of mustard and onion pretzels in the pantryyyyy

That's not a vote I'd oppose. I don't feel fantastic about how he managed to read through everything that had happened and come to the conclusion that none of the content he read through is valuable.

Mum wants help in the garden. I intended to stick around but I'll likely be preoccupied until past EoD.

Sorsha wrote:I'm leaning DDL with my vote. The call for a policy lynch/vig kill on snow dog for starters. Then after that the arguing game theory just stands out more to me than anything else anyone else has done.

This is a main post by Sorsha, most of her stuff have been kinda fluffy. However, I'll forgive it since we're only on day 1. My main concern with a DDL lynch is that it could be easy for mafia to job on, however we haven't had much movement at all this phase and not many votes. I think therefore the likely hood of at least a few mafia members being inactive is high. So it might be in our best interest to go the inactive route for day 1.

I'll either be voting for a more inactive player or DDL. I need to think about it for a few more minutes and review a few things.

Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

sig wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'm leaning DDL with my vote. The call for a policy lynch/vig kill on snow dog for starters. Then after that the arguing game theory just stands out more to me than anything else anyone else has done.

This is a main post by Sorsha, most of her stuff have been kinda fluffy. However, I'll forgive it since we're only on day 1. My main concern with a DDL lynch is that it could be easy for mafia to job on, however we haven't had much movement at all this phase and not many votes. I think therefore the likely hood of at least a few mafia members being inactive is high. So it might be in our best interest to go the inactive route for day 1.

I'll either be voting for a more inactive player or DDL. I need to think about it for a few more minutes and review a few things.

What does a main post mean?

I always have troubles with day one.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

Having just been on a baddie team with Sorsha in Lost Again, I'm not seeing the same thing from her here. I am leaning civ on her at the moment.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Lemme go look at sprityo...

Mmm. not a lot there, even within the few posts he has. Ok, sorry sprityo, but it's follow this, or kinda randomly go elsewhere. I'm going to just vote sprityo, and basically cross my fingers. I really have no suspicions right now.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

sig wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@SpaceDaisy

In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it.

So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow.

I dislike this post, I say the same thing when I'm mafia.

But I wouldn't believe you cause you've been MIA during all the game theory discussion.



Linki? @Scotty

I'll join the low poster train.

A random roll of the low posters gets Lorab.

If I rejected your suggestion of Spirityo right now and voted Lorab, what would you think of that?

K. I dunno. Yes. Bring salsa.

Quin wrote:Mum wants help in the garden. I intended to stick around but I'll likely be preoccupied until past EoD.

This is the cutest thing I've read today.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Of note that you are willing to random vote a low poster but have some hesitance on sprityo. I think that's how I'm reading that.

Long Con wrote:Lemme go look at sprityo...

Mmm. not a lot there, even within the few posts he has. Ok, sorry sprityo, but it's follow this, or kinda randomly go elsewhere. I'm going to just vote sprityo, and basically cross my fingers. I really have no suspicions right now.

If there's another player out there you'd feel less uncomfortable voting, then by all means.

sig wrote:Glorf I don't think i'd want to speak your mind. You Aussies minds are like dens of horror.
Also you didn't answer my question, who do you plan to vote for today and why?

After that remark, I think you're starting to look a more promising option - how dare you insult my nationality!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Two big differences between what I criticized and what I'm doing.

1) My pool is shortened significantly

2) I haven't voted. I've asked Scotty for his opinion on switching from one player within the pool that he (a potential scummer) chose and a player chosen at random.

Glorfindel wrote:

sig wrote:Glorf I don't think i'd want to speak your mind. You Aussies minds are like dens of horror.
Also you didn't answer my question, who do you plan to vote for today and why?

After that remark, I think you're starting to look a more promising option - how dare you insult my nationality!

Is this a policy lynch?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Two big differences between what I criticized and what I'm doing.

1) My pool is shortened significantly

2) I haven't voted. I've asked Scotty for his opinion on switching from one player within the pool that he (a potential scummer) chose and a player chosen at random.

Dude I don't know shit.

I also don't know shit in this game.

But I do know that you can do you, and I have no idea whether or not LoRab is a better or worse pick.

But I'm curious if you have an aversion to voting sprityo, jack

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

sig wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:@SpaceDaisy

In the interest of fairness, I will debate and analyze game theory to the ends of time cause I really like it.

So I'm not a baddie but I'd be doing much of this culture reading/mechanic strategy debate anyhow.

I dislike this post, I say the same thing when I'm mafia.

But I wouldn't believe you cause you've been MIA during all the game theory discussion.

Psh I was here for the third party portion of the discussion.

@Sorsha it was the main post that I found interesting, I do remember you saying that before, and I've had the same issues this game so I won't be voting for you, I'm just jumping around looking at different players.

linki:

Glorfindel wrote:

sig wrote:Glorf I don't think i'd want to speak your mind. You Aussies minds are like dens of horror.
Also you didn't answer my question, who do you plan to vote for today and why?

After that remark, I think you're starting to look a more promising option - how dare you insult my nationality!

Also why aren't you answering me Glorf? It seems odd that you won't give me a name.

Would voting spirityo be a policy lynch since it's because he's usually a low poster?

Alright, I'm going with my gut and voting MM.

Am I allowed to vote 'We Didn't Start The Fire'? I'm really not liking the look of those leading wagons...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Two big differences between what I criticized and what I'm doing.

1) My pool is shortened significantly

2) I haven't voted. I've asked Scotty for his opinion on switching from one player within the pool that he (a potential scummer) chose and a player chosen at random.

1) That's not the impression I got from your original post. I saw you criticize "random voting at all".

2) This is true. So why would you randomize LoRab instead of looking at sprityo? Or all low posters for that matter?

Linki: Hey!

Glorfindel wrote:Am I allowed to vote 'We Didn't Start The Fire'? I'm really not liking the look of those leading wagons...

Why?
Who would you like to vote for, grand elf?

Scotty wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Two big differences between what I criticized and what I'm doing.

1) My pool is shortened significantly

2) I haven't voted. I've asked Scotty for his opinion on switching from one player within the pool that he (a potential scummer) chose and a player chosen at random.

Dude I don't know shit.

I also don't know shit in this game.

But I do know that you can do you, and I have no idea whether or not LoRab is a better or worse pick.

But I'm curious if you have an aversion to voting sprityo, jack

Nah, not really.

Just don't like being lead around in general.

I like Spirityo as a lynch candidate better than anyone else with 1 or more votes.

Sorsha wrote:Would voting spirityo be a policy lynch since it's because he's usually a low poster?

Is he?
I'm not exclusively voting for him for being a low poster. I just literally can't remember a thing he has said, because he hasn't really said anything in the 14 posts he has.

MM: I narrowed my pool of suspects down and then went with my gut. What can I say? Maybe it's because you mafia and drive...

I voted DDL

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Two big differences between what I criticized and what I'm doing.

1) My pool is shortened significantly

2) I haven't voted. I've asked Scotty for his opinion on switching from one player within the pool that he (a potential scummer) chose and a player chosen at random.

Dude I don't know shit.

I also don't know shit in this game.

But I do know that you can do you, and I have no idea whether or not LoRab is a better or worse pick.

But I'm curious if you have an aversion to voting sprityo, jack

Nah, not really.

Just don't like being lead around in general.

I like Spirityo as a lynch candidate better than anyone else with 1 or more votes.

I ripped my leash off long ago myself, so I understand ya brotha.

Scotty wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Am I allowed to vote 'We Didn't Start The Fire'? I'm really not liking the look of those leading wagons...

Why?
Who would you like to vote for, grand elf?

I don't think I've seen sufficient genuine content so far to make a judgement to be honest, my friend - and yes, I know I bear some responsibility for that... Of the current wagons, MM's looks the most pure but from my recollection, the poor guy gets lynched early every game I play with him

Spacedaisy wrote:MM: I narrowed my pool of suspects down and then went with my gut. What can I say? Maybe it's because you mafia and drive...

I've been told I'm honest to a fault. Yet another example here.

The list of players who haven't voted yet is still incredibly long.

Glorfindel wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Am I allowed to vote 'We Didn't Start The Fire'? I'm really not liking the look of those leading wagons...

Why?
Who would you like to vote for, grand elf?

I don't think I've seen sufficient genuine content so far to make a judgement to be honest, my friend - and yes, I know I bear some responsibility for that... Of the current wagons, MM's looks the most pure but from my recollection, the poor guy gets lynched early every game I play with him

How is my wagon pure? Zebra didn't read my posts properly and I don't even know why Daisy is voting for me (aside from gut).

If you joined it, it would be pure. But I don't want that.

13 people still hvent voted.

I hope they're mostly baddies

LOL, MM I was only kidding about the mafia and driving thing. That had no bearing.

I don't really know who I want to vote for at this point, I'd be fine with a DDL or a spirtyo lynch, I can see the gut ping on MM, but out of the three I think DDL is my number one pick. Him trying to cast suspicion on me for wanting to lynch the cult leader is weird, plus I really disliked his vote and interaction with Snow Dog.

I need to go, my cousin and his family are coming over tomorrow and I should have been asleep like two hours ago.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now wait a second jack.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:What's the advantage of random voting at all?

If you're not the determiner, you might as well not vote.

If you are the determiner....you want to determine who should die randomly?

Yeah?

You suggested anyone willing to randomize to not vote at all.

Now you're randomizing a low poster.

What changed your mind?

Two big differences between what I criticized and what I'm doing.

1) My pool is shortened significantly

2) I haven't voted. I've asked Scotty for his opinion on switching from one player within the pool that he (a potential scummer) chose and a player chosen at random.

1) That's not the impression I got from your original post. I saw you criticize "random voting at all".

2) This is true. So why would you randomize LoRab instead of looking at sprityo? Or all low posters for that matter?

Linki: Hey!

1) If I randomize the whole field, my statement applies. Lorab has 2 votes, Spirit has 2 votes and DDL has 2 votes and I like DDL best of the three, it is in my interest to vote one of the two non DDL players. Yes, it would be better to make a real decision but even with dice, I'd want to be the determiner in that situation, at least partially.

2) I'm not a random number generator. By my watch, there wasn't much time to dig up 6 different player's posts on a site I don't know how to use well. I'd rather have heard from Scotty in this specific situation.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Am I allowed to vote 'We Didn't Start The Fire'? I'm really not liking the look of those leading wagons...

Why?
Who would you like to vote for, grand elf?

I don't think I've seen sufficient genuine content so far to make a judgement to be honest, my friend - and yes, I know I bear some responsibility for that... Of the current wagons, MM's looks the most pure but from my recollection, the poor guy gets lynched early every game I play with him

How is my wagon pure? Zebra didn't read my posts properly and I don't even know why Daisy is voting for me (aside from gut).

If you joined it, it would be pure. But I don't want that.

I mean that I feel very confident in Daisy and Zebs being Town. That doesn't mean I necessarily agree with them however. I'm not voting for you right now.

Fwiw Jack, LoRab has zero votes.

voting Spirityo, because ties are fun.

Spacedaisy wrote:LOL, MM I was only kidding about the mafia and driving thing. That had no bearing.

Ok, why did you vote for me?

I voted sprityo to break the tie between him and DDL. I didn't get a chance to look at sprityo, nor DDL for that matter. But y'all left me to break a tie, so

Here's a list of players who missed the vote (including sprityo).

• Dom
  DrWilgy
  Elohcin
  Epignosis
  Glorfindel
  LoRab
  Marco
  Nachomamma8
  soup
  sprityo

Glorfindel wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Am I allowed to vote 'We Didn't Start The Fire'? I'm really not liking the look of those leading wagons...

Why?
Who would you like to vote for, grand elf?

I don't think I've seen sufficient genuine content so far to make a judgement to be honest, my friend - and yes, I know I bear some responsibility for that... Of the current wagons, MM's looks the most pure but from my recollection, the poor guy gets lynched early every game I play with him

How is my wagon pure? Zebra didn't read my posts properly and I don't even know why Daisy is voting for me (aside from gut).

If you joined it, it would be pure. But I don't want that.

I mean that I feel very confident in Daisy and Zebs being Town. That doesn't mean I necessarily agree with them however. I'm not voting for you right now.

Looks like you didn't vote for anyone right now. Who would you have voted if you were required to place a vote today?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I voted sprityo to break the tie between him and DDL. I didn't get a chance to look at sprityo, nor DDL for that matter. But y'all left me to break a tie, so

Here's a list of players who missed the vote (including sprityo).

• Dom
  DrWilgy
  Elohcin
  Epignosis
  Glorfindel
  LoRab
  Marco
  Nachomamma8
  soup
  sprityo

I would like to point out (for the record) my friend that I did not 'miss' the vote. I deliberately withheld mine. I was faced with a choice between two players of which I was unwilling to support either.