The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Scotty wrote:This might be cliche but I'm not thrilled with any of Marmot's 7 posts so far. Granted, that was Day 0. But he could probably shave the fluff, that naked rat

What's a townie Marmot look like?

I cut out the naked mammal even though Eloh is dead.

We know this is a fabricated question, because either Jack knows MM is a civilian or he doesn't care for the answer because MM isn't.

Given that Scotty had already implied his reason for not liking MM's posts (they're devoid of game-related purpose), this by itself looks suspicious to me. However, subsequent MM interactions make me less inclined to believe they are working together.

I do believe, on the other hand, that Jack's exchange with Scotty about other people opened the door for this pointless question:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Tell me more about DF's meta. He made it like 3 posts before getting replaced in the only game we've played together.

Scotty never got back to answer about DF. For the same reason outlined above, Jack obviously wasn't interested in learning anything about DF (notice that he never got an answer and never asked anybody else about DF). Given what was already said about DF's tendency toward being a low poster (what Scotty said and Jack's mention of DF getting replaced), and given that Jack only asked this specific question about MM and DF, I believe one of them is on his team.

Between the two of them, I'd say it's DF.

Epignosis wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I won't be able to catch up on the thread until tonight, so I randomized Sawyer. I hate randomizing, but I haven't read since page 3 and literally have no suspicions yet.

This was Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:13 pm EST. I note that there were only seven pages, which means DF was only four pages behind. Surely he could have skimmed and made a more informed decision in that time, could he not?

DFaraday wrote:Finally caught up. Good result, all! RIP Elo.

I agree that there's no rush to lynch Jack, we just need to be careful about how close lynches are or he could tip the scales. Then again, I doubt he'd use that to save a teammate, but rather frame a civ.

To Sawyer: I have no suspicion of you. I randomized from everybody besides myself and it was you. That's all.

This next post is Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:15 am EST, over 36 hours later. In it, DF did nothing but talk about Jack- no mention of suspects, whom he would have voted had he been caught up, no ideas on who is a civilian- nada.

I'm voting DFaraday.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Scotty wrote:This might be cliche but I'm not thrilled with any of Marmot's 7 posts so far. Granted, that was Day 0. But he could probably shave the fluff, that naked rat

What's a townie Marmot look like?

I cut out the naked mammal even though Eloh is dead.

We know this is a fabricated question, because either Jack knows MM is a civilian or he doesn't care for the answer because MM isn't.

Given that Scotty had already implied his reason for not liking MM's posts (they're devoid of game-related purpose), this by itself looks suspicious to me. However, subsequent MM interactions make me less inclined to believe they are working together.

I do believe, on the other hand, that Jack's exchange with Scotty about other people opened the door for this pointless question:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Tell me more about DF's meta. He made it like 3 posts before getting replaced in the only game we've played together.

Scotty never got back to answer about DF. For the same reason outlined above, Jack obviously wasn't interested in learning anything about DF (notice that he never got an answer and never asked anybody else about DF). Given what was already said about DF's tendency toward being a low poster (what Scotty said and Jack's mention of DF getting replaced), and given that Jack only asked this specific question about MM and DF, I believe one of them is on his team.

Between the two of them, I'd say it's DF.

Do you think it's unlikely that Jack was asking those questions so he could get in on the ground floor for a future wagon against them?

thellama73 wrote:Well, I just spent a long time looking at Quin. The thing I noticed about him was how short his posts have been. More than half of them are under 10 words. I wanted to see if this was typical or some sort of tell, so I looked at some previous games. Quin was a little chattier in Felt 2, where he was civ, but in A Mafia of Unfortunate Events, he was quite short, and an Indy. I thought I might be on to something, but then I looked at Lost 2, where he was a civvie, and his posting style is very similar to what I'm seeing here.

So I'm back to square one on Quin.

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

The more he talks, the more I like him. Talking mafia is what I like to see.

S~V~S wrote:I think someone trying to set up you most likely.

S~V~S wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Let me try that again: Stop worrying about the outed member of the mafia. Who are his teammates and why? Go after them.

At this point he's just a distraction. Here we all are arguing over whether to Lynch him or not rather than discussing alternatives.

Make the outed baddie go away.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

The more he talks, the more I like him. Talking mafia is what I like to see.

Did you ever read into my interaction with SVS? You said you would but I haven't seen a conclusive something from you.

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

The more he talks, the more I like him. Talking mafia is what I like to see.

Did you ever read into my interaction with SVS? You said you would but I haven't seen a conclusive something from you.

If I'm honest, and I hope you don't take offense, I'm not really interested in it. If you really want me to, I will.

Do you think S~V~S should be lynched?

Long Con wrote:You're damn right I'm not on his team. But I don't see that in those two extremely minimal "interactions".

thellama73 wrote:

Long Con wrote:You're damn right I'm not on his team. But I don't see that in those two extremely minimal "interactions".

Maybe I'm just better at seeing things than you are?

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Long Con wrote:You're damn right I'm not on his team. But I don't see that in those two extremely minimal "interactions".

Maybe I'm just better at seeing things than you are?

Explain your Day 1 vote in the clearest terms possible.

thellama73 wrote:I have to say, I'm a little annoyed at Floyd. He has four posts, none of them containing actual content He missed the lynch vote. This is the second game I've played with him in short succession where he has done this. If he's a civ, he's a useless one. If he's mafia, he's escaping with very little scrutiny. At times like this I feel like returning to my low-poster lynching strategy of yore.

FZ. wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:If Scotty is bad, isn't this the time his team is supposed to tell him to get in here?

Or they're throwing him to the wolves.

Let's hope so. I forgot how stressful this game is

thellama73 wrote:In the course of my rereads, I came across this:

FZ. wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:If Scotty is bad, isn't this the time his team is supposed to tell him to get in here?

Or they're throwing him to the wolves.

Let's hope so. I forgot how stressful this game is

Why so stressed on Day 1, FZ? You haven't been a serious contender for a lynch. Worried for a teammate perhaps?

Marmot wrote:

thellama73 wrote:In the course of my rereads, I came across this:

FZ. wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:If Scotty is bad, isn't this the time his team is supposed to tell him to get in here?

Or they're throwing him to the wolves.

Let's hope so. I forgot how stressful this game is

Why so stressed on Day 1, FZ? You haven't been a serious contender for a lynch. Worried for a teammate perhaps?

Is Scotty her teammate?

thellama73 wrote:And it would be nice if you would let people answer for themselves, Metalmarsh89.

thellama73 wrote:Don't tell me what to do.

Marmot wrote:I don't understand your point, and I'm not going to wait around for FZ to answer to hear your point.

Epignosis and FZ were talking about Scotty, so what teammate could you mean?

thellama73 wrote:I'm going to bed but one more observation first: SVS admonished us for wasting time talking about Jack and suggested we talk about other suspects instead. She hasn't said anything since. Is she eager for discussion, or not?

thellama73 wrote:

Marmot wrote:I don't understand your point, and I'm not going to wait around for FZ to answer to hear your point.

Epignosis and FZ were talking about Scotty, so what teammate could you mean?

I could mean anyone who was taking votes or being talked about. My point is that if FZ is a civilian, she had no reason to be stressed out at that moment. But the larger point than that was that I wanted to see how she would answer my question, a point which you have now ruined.

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Marmot wrote:I don't understand your point, and I'm not going to wait around for FZ to answer to hear your point.

Epignosis and FZ were talking about Scotty, so what teammate could you mean?

I could mean anyone who was taking votes or being talked about. My point is that if FZ is a civilian, she had no reason to be stressed out at that moment. But the larger point than that was that I wanted to see how she would answer my question, a point which you have now ruined.

No reason? No reason at all?

She went the extra step to question my view on Scotty. A Mafia member had no reason to do that. She raised a point in Scotty's favor, which I rejected, and she ultimately did too.

FZ. is a civilian in this game.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

The more he talks, the more I like him. Talking mafia is what I like to see.

Did you ever read into my interaction with SVS? You said you would but I haven't seen a conclusive something from you.

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

He's probably interacting with Epi since Epi is in charge of saving him.

Let's make a deal; if we lynch anyone other than Jack, and they are not bad, we lynch Jack next, no arguments, no questions. I have played whole games as an outed baddie and the longer you let it go on, the harder it is to get rid of the outed one. If we lynch someone who IS a baddie, I will shut up and tow the party line re lynching Jack.

Although, again, I would much rather lynch Jack.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Marmot wrote:I don't understand your point, and I'm not going to wait around for FZ to answer to hear your point.

Epignosis and FZ were talking about Scotty, so what teammate could you mean?

I could mean anyone who was taking votes or being talked about. My point is that if FZ is a civilian, she had no reason to be stressed out at that moment. But the larger point than that was that I wanted to see how she would answer my question, a point which you have now ruined.

No reason? No reason at all?

She went the extra step to question my view on Scotty. A Mafia member had no reason to do that. She raised a point in Scotty's favor, which I rejected, and she ultimately did too.

FZ. is a civilian in this game.

She also had no reason not to do that. If it's about mafia not needing to oppose a lynch that isn't on one of them, I'd say that that's poor mafia strategy which I'd only expect from the least invested baddies.

What would you say if I said I'm getting BTSC vibes from the two of you?

DrWilgy wrote:Boo! Boo!

Jack votes are weak and lazy.

Boooo!

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

The more he talks, the more I like him. Talking mafia is what I like to see.

Did you ever read into my interaction with SVS? You said you would but I haven't seen a conclusive something from you.

Yes, I would beinterestedin that as well.

Every time I come in here I get annoyed that we are not lynching the outed baddie, and I leave, lol. He is just a distraction, and won't help us find other baddies. He needs to go.

Why am I giving you a medal, Mac?

thellama73 wrote:

Long Con wrote:You're damn right I'm not on his team. But I don't see that in those two extremely minimal "interactions".

Maybe I'm just better at seeing things than you are?

TheFloyd73 wrote:I know any excuse for low posting is going to be held against me, so I won't bother exclaiming one.

From my brief reads, I can take this:
As already stated, Wilgy lost his usual cherpiness when Jack's role was revealed. That's a subtle detail that's well-pointed out. I don't feel implied to label him as scum at this stage, but I'm open to any change.
With Jack's role revealed, I can understand the benefits of lynching and not lynching him. When I have the time, I might investigate his associations and statements before Night 1.
Heck, Long Con holds a strong stance of being the interrogator. It makes it difficult to assume his alliance. I've seen it in other games as well. I know I'm probably stating the obvious, but doesn't anyone else think likewise with me?

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

He's probably interacting with Epi since Epi is in charge of saving him.

Let's make a deal; if we lynch anyone other than Jack, and they are not bad, we lynch Jack next, no arguments, no questions. I have played whole games as an outed baddie and the longer you let it go on, the harder it is to get rid of the outed one. If we lynch someone who IS a baddie, I will shut up and tow the party line re lynching Jack.

Although, again, I would much rather lynch Jack.

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:One benefit to lynching Jack today is to remove the WIFOM factor from his posts. Since he became confirmed he's only interacted with Epi. I refuse to read into that but I can see it being argued one way or another.

I realise we shouldn't be arguing about Jack right now, but that needed to be said

He's probably interacting with Epi since Epi is in charge of saving him.

Let's make a deal; if we lynch anyone other than Jack, and they are not bad, we lynch Jack next, no arguments, no questions. I have played whole games as an outed baddie and the longer you let it go on, the harder it is to get rid of the outed one. If we lynch someone who IS a baddie, I will shut up and tow the party line re lynching Jack.

Although, again, I would much rather lynch Jack.